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The Velveteen Ocelot

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28. My impression is that Ellis doesn't like prosecutors in general and Manafort's in particular.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:06 PM
Mar 2019

And he is on record as regularly tangling with prosecutors, especially regarding mandatory minimum sentences. I posted the same article yesterday but it was ignored - it seems people are assuming the wrong negative things about Ellis. The guy is an eccentric old crank, and he gave Manafort a sentence much more lenient than both the prosecutor and the pre-sentence analysis recommended, but his reasons for doing so might not be those that are assumed and that are provoking all the jerking of knees.

That's not to say Ellis had particularly good or rational reasons. I thought it was pretty absurd for Ellis to describe Manafort's life as having been "blameless" before he got busted, considering that he'd been grifting and cheating and generally being bad for decades. It's not like he'd been a perfectly upstanding, law-abiding citizen for his entire life until one day, when he was in his late 60s, he decided to rob a convenience store on his way home from church. So that was bullshit, maybe a way of trying to justify a lenient sentence by a judge who, it seems to me, was trying to stick it to prosecutors he didn't like. That's a bad reason, if true, just not the reason that seems to be assumed.

You have a way of getting the barbs in there, jberryhill True Dough Mar 2019 #1
Donald Trump's Former Campaign Chair Has Been Sentenced To Prison For Federal Crimes jberryhill Mar 2019 #6
Spot on. WheelWalker Mar 2019 #9
I don't think most of us see it as a defeat... llmart Mar 2019 #10
Yes. Fair point True Dough Mar 2019 #11
"More flies with honey than with vinegar" jberryhill Mar 2019 #13
I wasn't being literal in regards to the flies, but you know that. True Dough Mar 2019 #15
Still... jberryhill Mar 2019 #16
Let me tell ya True Dough Mar 2019 #17
It is an odd metaphor treestar Mar 2019 #20
I don't really care about the 47 months. DURHAM D Mar 2019 #2
blameless life mercuryblues Mar 2019 #4
Not following... DURHAM D Mar 2019 #7
The reason the judge could say that mercuryblues Mar 2019 #21
Thank you for the voice of reason LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #3
That was sobering. Thank you. donkeypoofed Mar 2019 #5
Nothing it seems, however simple, is as simple as we'd like it to be. WheelWalker Mar 2019 #8
A number of outlets are stunned by the "Otherwise blameless life" while always operating as a crook. lancelyons Mar 2019 #12
It's far from over for Manafort jberryhill Mar 2019 #14
Ellis sentenced a 37 year old to a 40 year minimum OliverQ Mar 2019 #18
Whoooooooooooooosssssshhhhhhhh jberryhill Mar 2019 #19
yes he apparently can dsc Mar 2019 #22
That is incorrect jberryhill Mar 2019 #23
Are you seriously defending this quack of a judge? OliverQ Mar 2019 #24
Sometimes facts are complicated. MH1 Mar 2019 #30
It was a *mandatory* minimum sentence. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #29
Just do away with sentencing guidelines. moondust Mar 2019 #25
Yah, well... jberryhill Mar 2019 #26
Would you call moondust Mar 2019 #27
Sentencing guidelines were created to prevent judges from doing that The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #31
My impression is that Ellis doesn't like prosecutors in general and Manafort's in particular. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #28
Good point - he has an axe to grind, but it's not the axe people think it is jberryhill Mar 2019 #33
Interesting. Thanks. Turbineguy Mar 2019 #32
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