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In reply to the discussion: Justin Fairfax is not being Franken'd [View all]Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)73. If we demand the resignation of any Democratic elected official
as soon as he/she is accused of inappropriate behavior, sexual or otherwise, we might as well close up the Democratic party and let the republicans have it all. They won't stop here, even if you want to believe all the allegations are true. I guarantee you even if these men are all guilty, the republicans would be fools to not be planning right now to ratfuck every Democratic elected official in the country. We are handing it to them.
There are a disturbing number of folks on this forum who are all too quick to throw due process out the window. This is very dangerous.
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Most acquaintance rapists are bright enough not to leave evidence - OTHER THAN
Ms. Toad
Feb 2019
#18
So you are accusing a rape survivor, who happens to be a black, well-educated, college professor
Ms. Toad
Feb 2019
#43
To say I'm picking my jaw up off the floor a lot these days would be an understatement.
Ms. Toad
Feb 2019
#51
The new thing about the victim lying because its suspicious that she was raped twice.
LexVegas
Feb 2019
#59
Obviously asserted by people with little understanding of, or experience with, rape.
Ms. Toad
Feb 2019
#120
You are over thinking this.....You also are confabulating....I didn't say that ..
FarPoint
Feb 2019
#67
Vanessa Tyson is an African American Democratic scholar and professor.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#75
Are you seriously comparing an African American Democratic feminist scholar and professor
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#80
I'm saying her background makes it infinitely less likely she is a a Republican plant.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#138
Then you should have left out the African-American professor and scholar part
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#139
Not just a rank and file Democrat but a young woman who has worked for and campaigned for Democrats.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#140
Then you should have said that instead of describing her race and occupation
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#142
Does it seem she has a great deal to lose by making a false allegation?
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#147
Everyone, regardless their livelihood, has a lot to lose by making a false allegation
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#150
You are the one ASSUMING that I would imagine a less prestigious person less credible.
irresistable
Feb 2019
#159
But evidence she is an extraordinarily unlikely right wing tool as has been suggested by some.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#189
You are twisting my words. I never said she shouldn't avail herself of the court process.
Ms. Toad
Feb 2019
#164
Umm no. He decided to resign. Amongst many calls for him to do so. But still it was his choice.
boston bean
Feb 2019
#27
I actually had no idea if I believed Ford until both she and Kavenaugh testified under oath
dsc
Feb 2019
#123
In a perfect world all three would go and Northam would appoint his successor before he resigned.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#76
That same mistake is perpetrated on victims of sexual assault on a daily basis. It is not uncommon.
boston bean
Feb 2019
#46
Which is part of what #metoo is about; due process while taking a persons accusations seriously
uponit7771
Feb 2019
#55
There was an avenue for an investigation by the FBI with Kavanaugh. Trump told them to complete a
boston bean
Feb 2019
#60
Of course, if Fairfax knows such & demands to go down that "avenue" are you down with that? tia
uponit7771
Feb 2019
#63
We'll see, BK's reluctance to go down the road of a proper investigation was the empirical evidence
uponit7771
Feb 2019
#69
This. There is no comparison. While I do support an investigation, these allegations are a
Squinch
Feb 2019
#10
The same mistake would be Fairfax's also, he should demand an investigation and fairness
uponit7771
Feb 2019
#45
The police and prosecutor decide if they have enough evidence to proceed, that's not up to the victi
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#91
Beyond a reasonable doubt is the criminal standard, but not political or public opinion
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#111
Sound like you think the law enforcement should never bother to investigate most sexal assault cases
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#137
"the Washington Post couldn't even put enough evidence together to print a story"
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#148
That's good, but none of the politicians conducting the hearings are trained interrogators
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#168
How do you know we are talking rape? We need an investigation...but no matter what we deal
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#39
First of all ...that is what being attempted. If the LT general is forced out , the GOP legislature
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#54
Umm. Northam can replace a Fairfax by appointment and Northam resigns the new lt gov becomes g
boston bean
Feb 2019
#64
#metoo doesn't mean guilt by accusation, even Mueller had some kind of due process
uponit7771
Feb 2019
#40
accusation ... a person should be afforded due process. There's no wisdom in receiving half the
uponit7771
Feb 2019
#49
You keep saying that..."..his unwillingness to be truthful"..but have yet to show it.
AncientGeezer
Feb 2019
#89
What is implausible about the accounts of Ms. Tyson and Ms. Watson?
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#177
I was skeptical at first only because the Fairfax stuff came out at the same time as the blackface
Dopers_Greed
Feb 2019
#53
I never mentioned race and this was meant tongue and cheek without malice for anyone.
Rocky888
Feb 2019
#172