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65. it isn't a good idea to leave the Kurds in Rojava defenseless while arming the bloodthirsty dictator

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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 09:01 PM

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Good gawd... Tulsi Gabbard: [View all] hlthe2b Dec 2018 OP

Assad's puppet. nt DURHAM D Dec 2018 #1

No, we are upset because we don't want to see the Kurds get wiped out in a genocidal frenzy phleshdef Dec 2018 #2

This mcar Dec 2018 #31

Thank you. allgood33 Dec 2018 #64

After we committed ourselves to help them. MontanaMama Dec 2018 #93

Yes! peggysue2 Dec 2018 #104

Da, some Rubles deposited tonight yes? XRubicon Dec 2018 #3

Well then, that settles it. apcalc Dec 2018 #4

What about the Kurdish women that will be slaughtered if and when we pull out Tulsi? juxtaposed Dec 2018 #5

The US alliance with SDF/YPG/YPJ was never permanent Devil Child Dec 2018 #32

you really are a downer juxtaposed Dec 2018 #34

US history of intervention in foreign nations is a downer Devil Child Dec 2018 #35

Straight from the trump school of foreign policy: Fuck your allies, align with Assad and Putin. brush Dec 2018 #79

Her analysis is superficial. Ilsa Dec 2018 #6

Why am I not in the least bit surprised at this? nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #7

Yeah, I was waiting for her to Cha Dec 2018 #25

That tweet is going to age well. rogue emissary Dec 2018 #8

Exactly.. like this friggin tweet of Gabbard's Aged so Well.. Cha Dec 2018 #18

One might think she'd be embarrassed (and self-aware enough if she's thinking a Pres run) to hlthe2b Dec 2018 #21

Hey Me. Dec 2018 #39

Gabbard's definetly NOT presidential material.. Cha Dec 2018 #41

And, here is Barbara Lee on trump's dictatorial stunt. Cha Dec 2018 #9

Rep Lee has it exactly right. ecstatic Dec 2018 #11

Yes, Barbara Lee is actually Thinking.. and Gabbard is Cha Dec 2018 #20

Any chance that the voters will vote her out, Cha? Nt spooky3 Dec 2018 #81

Hey if she runs for Cha Dec 2018 #84

LOL! spooky3 Dec 2018 #96

Yes, lucky them! Wonder if Real POTUS Cha Dec 2018 #99

Perfectly stated. John Fante Dec 2018 #30

If the war is "unauthorized" the "dictaorial stunt" was putting troups there in the first place. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2018 #33

This immediate withdrawal is a gift to putin. Cha Dec 2018 #40

Which part is "exactly right"? The part where she says... PoliticAverse Dec 2018 #50

Barbara Lee is exactly right.. Gabbard is Wrong.. Cha Dec 2018 #52

President Obama put the troops there to defeat ISIS. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #106

Sanity From Rep. Lee Me. Dec 2018 #42

Yes, Sanity from Rep Barbara Lee while Gabbard Cha Dec 2018 #46

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Me. Dec 2018 #47

Rep. Gabbard is correct Devil Child Dec 2018 #10

Perhaps you would read post 8 (rogue emissary says it best for nearly all of us in reply) hlthe2b Dec 2018 #12

I did Devil Child Dec 2018 #15

And what is your preferred outcome for the Kurds? Both Erdogen and Putin... brush Dec 2018 #82

I'll try to describe my preferred approach Devil Child Dec 2018 #89

Hmmm, so we leave some personel and withdraw others? brush Dec 2018 #90

You asked, I answered Devil Child Dec 2018 #98

We're there, right or wrong, but ya don't cut and run on your allies. brush Dec 2018 #102

No, she isn't.. she's Dead Wrong. Cha Dec 2018 #13

Well we did and now we have to exit in the least harmful way. Doremus Dec 2018 #16

There is a difference between exiting a building through the front door.. JHan Dec 2018 #37

Wow Me. Dec 2018 #44

Chomsky framed it quite well ( and I don't always agree with him) JHan Dec 2018 #51

This... Me. Dec 2018 #55

Mahalo for this from Chomsky, JHan! I did Cha Dec 2018 #101

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2018 #54

We should have never inserted ourselves, but we have, and we have responsibilities now. George II Dec 2018 #49

If adding to the stupid is the goal uponit7771 Dec 2018 #53

And Kurdish blood on our hands means nothing? HopeAgain Dec 2018 #76

Simplistic? That's the media and the military. shanny Dec 2018 #14

Honestly.. would you also read post 8 by rogue emissary? No one here is saying we should have GONE hlthe2b Dec 2018 #17

I'm glad to hear it. shanny Dec 2018 #26

Tulsi doesn't get it.. I hope you do. Abruptly pulling out will end up in a slaughter of our allies hlthe2b Dec 2018 #29

Where does that tweet say that we should abruptly pull out? shanny Dec 2018 #108

Really? LOL... ok. She voices approval of Trump's plans which calls for abrupt pull out hlthe2b Dec 2018 #112

Sorry, but no. She talks about shanny Dec 2018 #114

Eight hours later she talks responsible pull-out and ONLY after she was RIPPED on twitter hlthe2b Dec 2018 #115

So many bad actors in this little play, shanny Dec 2018 #117

No, Gabbard doesn't know what she's talking about but Cha Dec 2018 #23

and HRC Mosby Dec 2018 #103

Yes.. Thank You. & Noam Chomsky.. Cha Dec 2018 #105

+1 n/t Devil Child Dec 2018 #24

Because worrying about thousands of Kurds and their families being killed and keeping promises to onecaliberal Dec 2018 #19

Simply staggering. OnDoutside Dec 2018 #22

I stopped supporting the Bernie faction because they seem just as tied to Russia as Trump and co. budkin Dec 2018 #27

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #28

Ted Lieu and Ro Khanna also supported the troop withdrawal oberliner Dec 2018 #36

Maybe because they are showing at least awareness of the need to protect the Kurds and not hlthe2b Dec 2018 #38

Barbara Lee is the one who has it right.. Cha Dec 2018 #43

I too share you puzzlement Devil Child Dec 2018 #45

Gabbard brings it on herself.. this isn't the first Cha Dec 2018 #48

Simple reason. rogue emissary Dec 2018 #61

Khanna and Lieu did not trash President Obama, and do on fox news. still_one Dec 2018 #107

DUers Will Dump on Tulsi If She Said the Sun set in the West Ccarmona Dec 2018 #56

NO, it wasn't "spot on".. Barbara Lee is Spot On.. Cha Dec 2018 #57

Like I wrote... Ccarmona Dec 2018 #58

Yes, you're Wrong.. and so is Gabbard praising Cha Dec 2018 #59

Bullshit, Simplistic and Factless Ccarmona Dec 2018 #60

Haha.. Gabbard is Wrong and Barbara Lee is right. Cha Dec 2018 #62

And what of the Kurds? No concern for allies who helped fight ISIS? brush Dec 2018 #85

I've arrived at a similar assessment n/t Devil Child Dec 2018 #63

Amen Polybius Dec 2018 #113

it isn't a good idea to leave the Kurds in Rojava defenseless while arming the bloodthirsty dictator Cha Dec 2018 #65

Like a moth to light BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #66

Also an instance where supposed Dems find themselves advocating for the Bolton/Rubio/Fox News side oberliner Dec 2018 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Dec 2018 #97

Oh I just knew you'd stop by. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #109

Please, Don't Fall Into the McChinless trap of being totally Anti-Trump, no matter the issue Ccarmona Dec 2018 #69

This is trump's gift to putin.. Every fucking thing trump Cha Dec 2018 #83

Cool story. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #110

So agreeing with withdrawal from Syria means one is a "supposed Dem?" Devil Child Dec 2018 #70

... BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #111

That gif is so perfect. betsuni Dec 2018 #116

She a former military woman and I respect her view here. I think she has Grahams Autumn Dec 2018 #67

Respect her view? Just let the Kurds and our other allies be massacred? hlthe2b Dec 2018 #71

So you are complaining about Tulsi Gabbard but don't seem to give a shit about Ted Lieu Autumn Dec 2018 #73

I addressed in post 38 an hour ago. hlthe2b Dec 2018 #74

I posted his statement below. He said nothing about any complexities of withdrawal. Autumn Dec 2018 #77

He retweeted agreement with Ro Khanna's posting, which did. hlthe2b Dec 2018 #78

Gabbard tweeted more too. I'm not going to go into any of the issues people have with her, Autumn Dec 2018 #86

eight hours later she finally thinks to discuss the Kurds and consequences of the abrupt pull out hlthe2b Dec 2018 #92

Yeah, Gabbard got a Hellava Lot of Pushback on that Cha Dec 2018 #94

I disagree with Ted Lieu, too.. Of Course. Cha Dec 2018 #80

Good . Hopefully Congress will come up with a plan for the withdrawal. Autumn Dec 2018 #91

Yes, I saw that.. this was After Cha Dec 2018 #95

Gabbard is wrong on trump's gift to putin.. yeah she was in the military.. Cha Dec 2018 #87

I guess Noam Chomsky is "attached to war" and regime change, then. betsuni Dec 2018 #72

We are not supposed to speak ill of Democrats. Right? Generic Brad Dec 2018 #75

Clever. You said a lot without saying it. brush Dec 2018 #88

This is an extremely ignorant and cold blooded statement. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #100