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In reply to the discussion: US rejects 'diplomatic asylum' for Assange [View all]Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)24. No, actually, they didn't
A negotiated solution staved off a similar diplomatic drama between the United States and China this year. The blind Chinese activist Chen Guangcheng had escaped house arrest and sought refuge inside the U.S. embassy. Unlike the Assange case, however, Chen did not ask for asylum and none was granted. Instead, New York University invited Chen to study there, and China agreed to let him go.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/17/world/uk-assange-international-law/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/17/world/uk-assange-international-law/index.html
After the high drama of a 400-mile dash to freedom across northern China, Chen Guangcheng, a blind legal activist now reportedly under the protection of U.S. diplomats in Beijing, confronts more mundane challenges: filling in forms, listening to warnings about potential peril ahead, and waiting while U.S. and Chinese officials haggle over his fate.
That, at least, is what happened back in the summer of 1989 when Fang Lizhi, a dissident Chinese astrophysicist, entered the U.S. mission in Beijing a day after the June 4 Tiananmen Square massacre and asked diplomats there for protection.
The diplomats were mildly discouraging but didnt rule out helping, recalled Perry Link, a Princeton University China scholar who accompanied Fang. They explained that Fang would need to get to American soil before he could request political asylum.
To get the ball rolling, Fang filled in a visa application, the first step in what he hoped would be a swift journey to safety. It was more than a year before he got to the United States, ostensibly for medical treatment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/dissident-drama-recalls-story-of-fang-lizhi/2012/04/28/gIQA3WSeoT_story.html
That, at least, is what happened back in the summer of 1989 when Fang Lizhi, a dissident Chinese astrophysicist, entered the U.S. mission in Beijing a day after the June 4 Tiananmen Square massacre and asked diplomats there for protection.
The diplomats were mildly discouraging but didnt rule out helping, recalled Perry Link, a Princeton University China scholar who accompanied Fang. They explained that Fang would need to get to American soil before he could request political asylum.
To get the ball rolling, Fang filled in a visa application, the first step in what he hoped would be a swift journey to safety. It was more than a year before he got to the United States, ostensibly for medical treatment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/dissident-drama-recalls-story-of-fang-lizhi/2012/04/28/gIQA3WSeoT_story.html
There's a difference between sanctuary and asylum.
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Sadly, I'm believing that more and more as time passes. It won't last. Trust me the gig is about
Purveyor
Aug 2012
#3
No country apart from those in Latin America party to the OAS Convention recognises it.
Spider Jerusalem
Aug 2012
#10
good thing we can do summary executions without trials anywhere on the globe then.
datasuspect
Aug 2012
#12
Tell that to Cardinal József Mindszenty who spent 15 years at the US Embassy in Budapest.
leveymg
Aug 2012
#20
The right to asylum is conferred under the UN Convention on the Status of Refugees. No distinction
leveymg
Aug 2012
#41
It's the only group to recognize a difference that doesn't otherwise exist in refugee law.
leveymg
Aug 2012
#45
There doesn't appear to be an international consensus forming around your theory
hack89
Aug 2012
#51
That's because the 800lb gorilla still dominates that consensus, and others keep their mouths shut
leveymg
Aug 2012
#52
That's right. You only have the right to asylum if the US likes you. n/t
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#53
Your point was misleading. Made it seem that Pinochet had immunity, which he didn't.
leveymg
Aug 2012
#72
U.S. foreign policy has been in reruns so long, it's broadcast in black-and-white.
leveymg
Aug 2012
#29
If all it was was a case of "date rape" or a "broken condom", the US wouldn't give a shit.
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#7
... "We believe this is a bilateral issue between Ecuador and the United Kingdom and that
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#40
The OAS plans a meeting on Ecuador's asylum; the US belong to the OAS; so the US is asked
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#67
Oh well THAT'S going to go over well with the Central and Latin American countries
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#26
Exactly - the US has made it clear they're very interested in this case.
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#60
Not likely - London cops are everywhere in that area, specifically looking for him.
backscatter712
Aug 2012
#68
So, the state who housed Cardinal Mindszenty for decades in its Budapest embassy
Jack Rabbit
Aug 2012
#48
Under the '51 UN Convention, the US could grant asylum to the Cardinal. Certainly, today, Ecuador
leveymg
Aug 2012
#65
The US won't take sides in the disagreement between the UK and Ecuador! Quick! Fetch my salts!
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#78
DU rages as US stays out of bilateral dispute! News at 11 or whenever our meds kick in!
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#79