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SunSeeker

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28. Per the article, the ruling may be used against him in future litigation.

Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:06 PM

Nov 2018

The conviction can be used for res judicata/collateral estoppel purposes in civil litigation against Arpaio.

As Judge Bolton concluded, Arpaio can't "erase the facts." And those are some ugly facts.

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Federal judge refuses to erase Joe Arpaio's conviction despite Trump pardon [View all] MiniMe Nov 2018 OP

Awww -- That Darn Rule of Law Thing Gets in Former "Sheriff" Arpaio's Way dlk Nov 2018 #1

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Nov 2018 #2

good ruling Takket Nov 2018 #3

accepting a pardon does not mean pleading guilty to a crime. unblock Nov 2018 #6

Arpaio accepted the pardon localroger Nov 2018 #38

He can't say he wasn't convicted. But he can certainly say he was always innocent. unblock Nov 2018 #41

yes.. .the last paragraph of your post is what i was getting at..... Takket Nov 2018 #40

None of that is true. former9thward Nov 2018 #18

Agreed hotrod0808 Nov 2018 #22

My understanding is that if you are pardoned Perseus Nov 2018 #30

Ford's pardon of Nixon came without Nixon ever being charged with a crime Locutusofborg Nov 2018 #33

Both Ford and Carter pardoned thousands of draft evaders from Vietnam. former9thward Nov 2018 #35

This is false. A pardon can be used to correct an incorrect guilty verdict, e.g., dna evidence. unblock Nov 2018 #44

What a legacy this disgusting man will carry to his grave...85 years old - asiliveandbreathe Nov 2018 #4

You'ld think the fact he calls himself Sheriff would lunatica Nov 2018 #5

1970s humor cojoel Nov 2018 #46

Gee... PeeJ52 Nov 2018 #7

Clinton appointed her MiniMe Nov 2018 #9

Well, how about that? Good for Judge Bolton DFW Nov 2018 #8

A pardon does not erase the underlying crime and conviction... beachbum bob Nov 2018 #10

Sort of a strange wish, but I hope Arpaio has a long life ahead of him. erronis Nov 2018 #11

I call for this to be chiseled onto his tombstone ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #12

What baggage? former9thward Nov 2018 #20

Yes - I probably have some of that too. But why does he want to clear his? erronis Nov 2018 #21

No good reason. former9thward Nov 2018 #27

Arpaio's trying shield himself from civil latigation arising from the same facts. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #29

Per the article, the ruling may be used against him in future litigation. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #28

Except there is no civil litigation. former9thward Nov 2018 #34

Wrong. There definitely is civil litigation. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #36

There is no civil litigation against Arpaio. former9thward Nov 2018 #43

Wrong again. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #47

Typically you ignore the fact he is not liable for anything. former9thward Nov 2018 #58

The case is not dismissed. The court maintains jurisdiction for monitoring. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #59

He has no pending civil case. former9thward Nov 2018 #60

You already admitted Arpaio has a pending civil case (the defamation case). SunSeeker Nov 2018 #61

I guess it affected him some itty, bitty, bit. Or else he wouldn'ta spent lawyer money and filing 3Hotdogs Nov 2018 #54

He has millions in his political fund. former9thward Nov 2018 #57

Maybe a pardon isn't the same as expunging the charges. JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #13

So posthumous pardons aren't even symbolically significant. Kaleva Nov 2018 #14

I thought about that. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2018 #16

Excellent ruling! Pacifist Patriot Nov 2018 #15

+1 woohoo iluvtennis Nov 2018 #19

+2 woohoo, too! calimary Nov 2018 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Nov 2018 #17

Thank You Judge!! blue-wave Nov 2018 #23

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2018 #25

Arpaio. AZ8theist Nov 2018 #26

K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #31

One must admit guilt to accept a pardon. Period. dsharp88 Nov 2018 #32

No, that's untrue. tammywammy Nov 2018 #37

First time poster CanadianGuy2 Nov 2018 #42

welcome to DU! gopiscrap Nov 2018 #51

Excuse me, but pardons are NOT granted to the innocent. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #52

The imposition of a guilty verdict is not a prerequisite for a pardon. tritsofme Nov 2018 #53

Innocence: List of Those Freed From Death Row mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 #56

Expungement of a conviction is completely different from a Pardon. no_hypocrisy Nov 2018 #39

This is dated October 2017 ashling Nov 2018 #45

So it is, I didn't even notice that. But I hadn't heard about previously MiniMe Nov 2018 #50

I thought this sounded familiar so I checked the date ashling Nov 2018 #55

K&R ck4829 Nov 2018 #48

Judge made the right call for the right reasons. cstanleytech Nov 2018 #49