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In reply to the discussion: The Cost of Health-care [View all]

grantcart

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8. There is a very easy answer to all of your concerns. Single Payer Universal health care
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:13 PM
Aug 2012




Interestingly, in 2006 the US was only $1900 per capita above the trend line($ spent on health care according to GDP per capita) for spending across countries.




You don't have any statistics so I don't know what right wing bullshit trumped up study you are trying to use but here are the facts.

Because the US has a completely unnecessary redundant 'health insurance' industry in between the patient and the doctor we are throwing hundreds of billions down the drain.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_tot_exp_as_of_gdp-health-total-expenditure-gdp

As a percent of GDP the US is throwing away between 4 and 7 percent of its GDP compared to all of the other major developed Democracies.

The ACA proved this when it forced a cap on the MLR and billions of dollars are being sent back and not a single insurance company went bankrupt when they had to reduce their bloated MLR.

You repeat the stupidest right wing tallking points about the health care system when for example when you list medical malpractice as a major cost factor. Only two specialiaties face a significant malpractice cost OBGYN being the most effected and this could be handled with some minor reform. More to the point having more money spent on preventative care would reduce riskier treatments that lead to the kind of complicated care that opens up the possibility of malpractice.

But let's cut out all of your tepid bullshit.

All repeat all conservative political parties outside of the US support universal access to health care and their national health service. No one is advocating our system.

Three years ago I painstakingly proved this point by looking up every single political party in the other developed democracies.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/188

Let's just take the official statement from the Conservative Party of Canada



The Conservative Party of Canada has released its platform, which is committed to ensuring that all Canadians have access to timely, quality health care services regardless of their ability to pay. They say they are committed to a universal, publicly funded health care system that respects the five principles of the Canada Health Act and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.




So it comes down to this basic understanding of ethics (which also happens to be more cost effective). Do you believe that all people should have full access to health services regardless of their ability to pay.

Now go take all of your ridiculous talk of traffic accidents and malpractice costs to the junior high table, because that is the level of the argument that you are making.
The Cost of Health-care [View all] fainaent Aug 2012 OP
Promotion/advertising/marketing, elleng Aug 2012 #1
Yeah, I don't know how much fainaent Aug 2012 #2
Did you get this info from Romney dot com too? Yeah Its Spin Aug 2012 #3
No fainaent Aug 2012 #5
Dude - research? liberalmuse Aug 2012 #4
About that R&D ... LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #6
the cost of healthcare is .14 cents per pizza. please don't overcomplicate the issue. piratefish08 Aug 2012 #7
Zactly Yeah Its Spin Aug 2012 #9
There is a very easy answer to all of your concerns. Single Payer Universal health care grantcart Aug 2012 #8
-word! Bluerthanblue Aug 2012 #10
I won't bother getting the sources I used for these figures fainaent Aug 2012 #11
Then you should advocate for Medicare for All. Medicare runs at far lower overhead than .... Scuba Aug 2012 #12
The people with the worst access have the most obesity. Warpy Aug 2012 #13
great post. nt raccoon Aug 2012 #17
you want everyone to have healthcare and Romney is a HUGE supporter of Israel's healthcare piratefish08 Aug 2012 #14
Obesity and diabetes are directly linked to poor access to good nutrition. polly7 Aug 2012 #15
...and of course food comes from stores or drive through windows... Blanks Aug 2012 #18
Great points, I absolutely agree! polly7 Aug 2012 #19
Here's a TED video. Blanks Aug 2012 #20
I have to run for a bit here, but thank you for the video! polly7 Aug 2012 #21
Wow. polly7 Aug 2012 #22
I know. Blanks Aug 2012 #23
Here's another TED video. Blanks Aug 2012 #26
Your source as pointed out upthread leaves out the billions we give to Insurance CEO's. unapatriciated Aug 2012 #16
What is the field other than OBGYN with high premiums? joeglow3 Aug 2012 #24
I am not sure but I think it was neurology grantcart Aug 2012 #25
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