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In reply to the discussion: The Cost of Health-care [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)8. There is a very easy answer to all of your concerns. Single Payer Universal health care
Interestingly, in 2006 the US was only $1900 per capita above the trend line($ spent on health care according to GDP per capita) for spending across countries.
You don't have any statistics so I don't know what right wing bullshit trumped up study you are trying to use but here are the facts.
Because the US has a completely unnecessary redundant 'health insurance' industry in between the patient and the doctor we are throwing hundreds of billions down the drain.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_tot_exp_as_of_gdp-health-total-expenditure-gdp
As a percent of GDP the US is throwing away between 4 and 7 percent of its GDP compared to all of the other major developed Democracies.
The ACA proved this when it forced a cap on the MLR and billions of dollars are being sent back and not a single insurance company went bankrupt when they had to reduce their bloated MLR.
You repeat the stupidest right wing tallking points about the health care system when for example when you list medical malpractice as a major cost factor. Only two specialiaties face a significant malpractice cost OBGYN being the most effected and this could be handled with some minor reform. More to the point having more money spent on preventative care would reduce riskier treatments that lead to the kind of complicated care that opens up the possibility of malpractice.
But let's cut out all of your tepid bullshit.
All repeat all conservative political parties outside of the US support universal access to health care and their national health service. No one is advocating our system.
Three years ago I painstakingly proved this point by looking up every single political party in the other developed democracies.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/188
Let's just take the official statement from the Conservative Party of Canada
The Conservative Party of Canada has released its platform, which is committed to ensuring that all Canadians have access to timely, quality health care services regardless of their ability to pay. They say they are committed to a universal, publicly funded health care system that respects the five principles of the Canada Health Act and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
So it comes down to this basic understanding of ethics (which also happens to be more cost effective). Do you believe that all people should have full access to health services regardless of their ability to pay.
Now go take all of your ridiculous talk of traffic accidents and malpractice costs to the junior high table, because that is the level of the argument that you are making.
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the cost of healthcare is .14 cents per pizza. please don't overcomplicate the issue.
piratefish08
Aug 2012
#7
There is a very easy answer to all of your concerns. Single Payer Universal health care
grantcart
Aug 2012
#8
Then you should advocate for Medicare for All. Medicare runs at far lower overhead than ....
Scuba
Aug 2012
#12
you want everyone to have healthcare and Romney is a HUGE supporter of Israel's healthcare
piratefish08
Aug 2012
#14
Your source as pointed out upthread leaves out the billions we give to Insurance CEO's.
unapatriciated
Aug 2012
#16