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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. The death penalty for treason?
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:03 AM
Sep 2018

I say bring it on!

BTW, fat boy, what "anonymous" did was in no way, shape or form considered to be "treason".

"According to Article III, Section 3: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court."

"Enemy" refers to a country or entity that has either declared war or is in open war against the United States. The wording is so air-tight that infamous double-agents Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen could not be convicted of treason after they were uncovered as spies for the Soviet Union, because at the time the United States was not officially at war with the Soviets, per ​Vox's reporting on Wednesday.

Moreover, the words "aid and comfort" mean something material -- scathing words on an op-ed would not apply.

Another kind of treason conviction would require the guilty party to take part in "levying war" against the United States, as UC Davis’s Carlton Larson, an expert on treason law, told Vox in 2013. Despite what Trump might believe, criticism against him does not qualify as declaring war against the nation."

Don the Con is way more guilty of treason malaise Sep 2018 #1
Yep. Better be careful what he wishes for in TrishaJ Sep 2018 #11
The Rosenbergs were executed for conspiring with Russia OMGWTF Sep 2018 #13
Yeah, how about that? workinclasszero Sep 2018 #46
You got it! RoBear Sep 2018 #18
This just proves what the op-ed said. He is truly deranged. patricia92243 Sep 2018 #2
Glad his popularity is tanking. mucifer Sep 2018 #3
What if the writer was his own son-in-law? ginnyinWI Sep 2018 #4
How does he know it's a "he"? nt GP6971 Sep 2018 #5
NYT Twitter feed said it was a "he" n/t Lucinda Sep 2018 #8
Thanks! Don't do Twitter. nt GP6971 Sep 2018 #9
In this context, that means nothing eallen Sep 2018 #10
But then recinded that statement. efhmc Sep 2018 #26
I doubt Trumpy would have seen anything past the first mention! Lucinda Sep 2018 #50
The NYT said the person was a "he" when they published it Wednesdays Sep 2018 #47
tRump is so far off his rocker ... the guy is deranged. Tells you a lot about the new GOP and RKP5637 Sep 2018 #6
THIS! jmbar2 Sep 2018 #16
Exactly, it extends far beyond tRump whom they use, as you say, RKP5637 Sep 2018 #23
9/10 who opposed Trump lost their primary at140 Sep 2018 #30
Another reason IMO there should be strict term limits. Far too many make it RKP5637 Sep 2018 #32
Agree completely +100 at140 Sep 2018 #52
The death penalty for treason? smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #7
All of that what you said is correct, but you gotta see it from donnies pov.. Volaris Sep 2018 #24
However his reality is not reality. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #37
Oh I'm aware lol. Volaris Sep 2018 #45
In other words, he's a wannabe Kim Jong-un. Fat boys with bad haircuts. erronis Sep 2018 #43
Yes precisely. Volaris Sep 2018 #44
Well, of course. Trump thinks he's King/Emperor Golden Raisin Sep 2018 #12
dictators murder with impunity. nt elmac Sep 2018 #14
Look who's complaining about treason being committed. calimary Sep 2018 #15
And here we go...from children in cages to all-out dictatorial murder... Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #17
So if TREASON warrants the death penalty......... usaf-vet Sep 2018 #19
Kim Jong-un: "Donald, use anti-aircraft guns!" dalton99a Sep 2018 #20
And they may want to carry out the punishment themselves. That is why we should not "out" JoeOtterbein Sep 2018 #21
He has no case for anything. Nothing is "injured" but him personally. bitterross Sep 2018 #22
My opinion differs. The anonymous writer wants to continue the Republican juggernaut. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2018 #40
I agree with you. You have a good point bitterross Sep 2018 #48
Trump Jong ILL Le Grand Pronounceur Sep 2018 #25
Dangerous: Trump truly believes the twisted reality in his head bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #27
Wouldn't that be something if the op-ed author turned out to be Ivanka? LonePirate Sep 2018 #28
oopsie... shanny Sep 2018 #35
Lost it Racerdog1 Sep 2018 #29
I don't rule out the death penalty for Unindicted Co-Conspirator's treason Cary Sep 2018 #31
oh FFS shanny Sep 2018 #33
time to get "tough on treason" eh? 0rganism Sep 2018 #34
Trump should be held to the same standard.... Pachamama Sep 2018 #36
Come on, folks. There is no treason for exercising free speech. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2018 #38
The longer this goes on.... dawnie51 Sep 2018 #39
It is a diversion. dalton99a Sep 2018 #41
Maybe the death penalty should include Generic Other Sep 2018 #42
meanwhile media is concerned about Obama stepping away from the norm of former presidents JI7 Sep 2018 #49
Straight Outta Nixon. moondust Sep 2018 #51
Glad it's driving Fraud more Cha Sep 2018 #53
Pfft. Whatever. It's first amendment protected, there will never be a conviction. D23MIURG23 Sep 2018 #54
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