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In reply to the discussion: Can we put it to rest that Hillary was a "bad candidate" [View all]Agschmid
(28,749 posts)57. Yup.
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I would argue that - on their records - either Al Gore or John Kerry were at least equal
karynnj
Jul 2018
#207
Witness the calm and wits with which she handled the marathon congressional grilling.
maddiemom
Jul 2018
#137
"How can you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be
betsuni
Jul 2018
#318
I realize he has a long history in public life. I just don't think it was quite as public as
StevieM
Jul 2018
#320
Correct. She would have beaten a much weaker candidate (Trump) were it not for Russia
Tom Rinaldo
Jul 2018
#9
What Presidential candidate can you recall in the past 3 decades who had any charisma and brains
politicaljunkie41910
Jul 2018
#166
You can be the most qualified person in the world for a job but you have to get the job to do it.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2018
#168
2016 was weird in its celebration of the angry white man- he was coddled and worshipped and got high
bettyellen
Jul 2018
#183
They were triggered by the combo of the black President potentially being succeeded by a female
stevenleser
Jul 2018
#284
Yet you've admitted that nearly 66,000,000 of us put her over the top by 3m+ votes.
MadDAsHell
Jul 2018
#173
She ran a good enough campaign to win a decisive victory had it not been for Comey's intervention.
StevieM
Jul 2018
#360
Her appearance there was cancelled- do you know why? No one talks about that...
bettyellen
Jul 2018
#98
And the first thing Trump did after Comey reopened the investigation was CANCEL an appearance
StevieM
Jul 2018
#135
She spent more money in advertising, and had larger ground operations, in WI and MI than Obama did
StevieM
Jul 2018
#295
Well if you're not running to win the votes of voters, why are you running?
MadDAsHell
Jul 2018
#147
the argument seems to be any candidate that lost is by definition a bad candidate.
unblock
Jul 2018
#35
Getting a smaller % of the female vote than President Obama's didn't help...
MadDAsHell
Jul 2018
#362
I'm not suggesting that at all. But am suggesting that a 1%er doesn't need us peons defending her.
MadDAsHell
Jul 2018
#373
Discuss the Russian ATTACK on us all you wish. It should be shouted from the hills.
bitterross
Jul 2018
#265
Millions of People LOVE Hillary! She's in 2nd Place in this 2020 Presidential POll
Cha
Jul 2018
#266
I put it to rest two years ago, and generally ignore those who say otherwise...nt
Wounded Bear
Jul 2018
#12
If you eliminate Comey and the FBI from the election she would have won in a landslide. (eom)
StevieM
Jul 2018
#129
Great candidate unfortunately dragging thirty years of wingnut mythology behind her.
Orsino
Jul 2018
#19
As long as we can put it to rest that it was the "radical left" that cause the loss
pecosbob
Jul 2018
#23
I worked hard for Hillary, after I voted for Bernie in the primary (PA, btw).
maddiemom
Jul 2018
#140
I don't agree at all. If you take out Comey from the race, from start to finish, then you eliminate
StevieM
Jul 2018
#154
If it weren't the server, they'd have found something else to blow out of proportion
EffieBlack
Jul 2018
#367
Yes, agree she was a great candidate however she had some campaign issues and she would admit it.
honest.abe
Jul 2018
#38
Hindsight, clearly it was a poor decision but I think I understand why she did it.
honest.abe
Jul 2018
#83
the fact that it's not a real scandal should is a clue to why this wouldn't have worked.
unblock
Jul 2018
#101
This statement isn't even close to reality, there are GOP Senators with private email accounts
uponit7771
Jul 2018
#118
Does anyone disagree with that here? I don't know that I've seen any argument to the contrary.
KPN
Jul 2018
#53
She was a troubled candidate, but only because the right waged a 25 year smear campaign against her.
Afromania
Jul 2018
#54
I have always loved and respected Hillary. Never understood the meanness toward her.
byronius
Jul 2018
#59
It was always a convenient go to line for some in M$M who didn't want to acknowledge what a
iluvtennis
Jul 2018
#70
The "third term" jinx -- it's very rare that the same party wins 3 presidential terms in a row
progree
Jul 2018
#81
And, she was right about the VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY, and we let them drown her out.
Crutchez_CuiBono
Jul 2018
#108
ah! but if she had gotten 90% of the votes they could not have swayed the election..
drray23
Jul 2018
#103
Putin is a BAD MAN. He hates Clinton for objecting to ethnic cleansing in Serbia
McCamy Taylor
Jul 2018
#114
It was never a question for me. I never entertained the possibility that she was.
ancianita
Jul 2018
#119
I actually don't like to focus too much on Putin and Russia, or the popular vote win.
StevieM
Jul 2018
#143
I think it is hard to have "it" when confronted with the things she is faced with.
StevieM
Jul 2018
#158
I voted for her a month early & she would have been a solid President but she hasn't been popular
Quixote1818
Jul 2018
#144
Just to be clear, the post you are responding to was extremely positive toward Hillary
Quixote1818
Jul 2018
#322
It's pretty well known polls showed she was not that popular (posters main point)
Quixote1818
Jul 2018
#337
How embarrassing that liberal elites are doing so well in the 2020 Presidential Poll!
betsuni
Jul 2018
#333
From now on Hillary's popularity will increase, she'll poll better and better.
betsuni
Jul 2018
#342
Can we put this issue to bed either way until we get the 2018 election over with? Please?
marble falls
Jul 2018
#185
I disagree strongly. This election is not about Trump/Clinton/Sanders/Stein. This election is ...
marble falls
Jul 2018
#190
Thats stupid. Do you think getting rid of Trump will whip Mike Pence and the GOP into line...
marble falls
Jul 2018
#217
She wasn't the one that was weak. The idiots believing all the propaganda, the misogynists,
MrsCoffee
Jul 2018
#269
If Bernie had been the nominee, the Russians would have stood down, Trump would have behaved,
EffieBlack
Jul 2018
#275
Joe Scarborough was an early and vocal proponent of the "bad candidate" narrative.
lapucelle
Jul 2018
#248
To be fair, we don't have the whole picture yet. And we won't for a long while.
Act_of_Reparation
Jul 2018
#276
In that order. Comey was by far the most important factor IMO. He repeatedly damaged her with
StevieM
Jul 2018
#297
Have there been any "bad" Democratic Presidential candidates in the past 50 years?
jalan48
Jul 2018
#302
I really liked Kerry and thought he was the right person for the times. It was hard to see him
jalan48
Jul 2018
#313
I remember the extremely long lines at polls even after dark and thinking, "Uh oh."
betsuni
Jul 2018
#315
Funny how there was a shortage of polling places in predominantly Democratic districts.
jalan48
Jul 2018
#319
People have a tendency to want to focus on just one thing as the cause of something
MichMan
Jul 2018
#352