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JCanete

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99. who is they...oh, you mean we? Not all of us see it at all like you see it. Sanders only has power

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:38 AM

Jun 2018

in any way over the Democratic party by virtue of Democratic voters, so any alternative argument to that makes no sense whatsoever. He can't blackmail or walk all over the democratic party. His power within it is proportionate to the will of democratic voters.

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DNC rule change angers Sanders supporters [View all] DonViejo Jun 2018 OP

nothing stopping them from running as I or make up a party name for themselves samnsara Jun 2018 #1

What fucking morons manor321 Jun 2018 #2

i agree with you. destruction of the Democrtic party is WRONG !!! And don't hate on Dem candidate trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #72

Lol. No kidding. Can't piss into the tent when the flaps are closed. Squinch Jun 2018 #3

I don't think either rule change is impactful, and let's talk about how caucuses exclude people. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #4

Ain't this the truth! tonyt53 Jun 2018 #8

It's rather embarrassing that the Democratic Party still allows for caucuses. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #11

In Washington the state passed a primary via the initiative process Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 #43

Why bother, though, if the caucus determines the delegates? Garrett78 Jun 2018 #45

I guess those who don't have time to caucus still want their voice heard Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 #47

"get rid of disenfranchising caucuses" --- Lord, YES... please and thank you! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #10

And, more! Cha Jun 2018 #40

Add one more thing jmowreader Jun 2018 #67

Yes, that would be NICE! Cha Jun 2018 #70

Spread The Word Me. Jun 2018 #118

No disenfranchised Caucuses.. NO OPEN Primaries so Cha Jun 2018 #119

... Me. Jun 2018 #121

I've read your posts on this, I disagree based on the wording. See this pic of the text stevenleser Jun 2018 #18

Without saying candidates must be party-affiliated for X amount of time before and after... Garrett78 Jun 2018 #19

I disagree. Moreover, we haven't seen lines 1-18. If 19-24 is any indication, there are more stevenleser Jun 2018 #20

Sanders would simply point to his voting record. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #21

It's not too ambiguous. If I say "Faithful to McDonalds interests" and I crap all over McDonald's stevenleser Jun 2018 #22

Apples and oranges. Again, Sanders could easily counter that argument. But that aside... Garrett78 Jun 2018 #23

It's not apples and oranges and I for one would welcome that fight because we need to stop this. stevenleser Jun 2018 #25

A political party and a corporation are not equivalent. So, yes, it's apples and oranges. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #26

Nope, it's not. It's not hard to determine whether someone's criticism is, according to the text of stevenleser Jun 2018 #28

Regardless, a court battle would be a disaster. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #30

Ted Kennedy actually did primary a sitting Democratic President Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #37

Nope, that was an amplification to the rule breaking, not the rule breaking itself. stevenleser Jun 2018 #89

Probably EffieBlack Jun 2018 #113

There's too much political amnesia. Democrats have long attacked prevailing mainstream Democrats. Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #114

You are greatly overstating when you say he attempted "to primary" Obama mythology Jun 2018 #120

Somebody running as a democrat has to be a democrat? workinclasszero Jun 2018 #5

Anything to complain about.. Cha Jun 2018 #41

It's not an "exclusive club" dumbass, it's a political party. If you care oasis Jun 2018 #6

Surprise, surprise! BlueMTexpat Jun 2018 #7

"...it may not prevent..." No, it absolutely won't prevent that. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #13

I heartily second your BlueMTexpat Jun 2018 #14

Democrat should run in the Democratic primary...about time the DNC stopped letting some walk all Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #9

who is they...oh, you mean we? Not all of us see it at all like you see it. Sanders only has power JCanete Jun 2018 #99

No I don't mean you. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #115

I meant "they" as in "the democrats," in which case, I make up who they is as much as you do. What JCanete Jun 2018 #116

"Exclusive club" oh, do shut the fuck up Takket Jun 2018 #12

Oh, they're big on that "elitist" crap. Cha Jun 2018 #42

Michael Bloomberg, Howard Schultz, Mark Cuban NY_20th Jun 2018 #15

Excellent point. UTUSN Jun 2018 #16

Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 #44

Painter went the full way and changed his registration to democrat a while back. Blue_true Jun 2018 #46

Maybe they should start describing themselves as Warren supporters. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #17

Tough shit Bernie Bros Downtown Hound Jun 2018 #24

Tough shit. The party will not be held hostage by Sanders, his wife, bros or Their NeveRevolution. MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #27

Why are they upset? ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #29

13 million from open primary and caucus. ChrisTee Jun 2018 #31

Boo Hoo. Wanna run as a Dem, join the party. It ain't gonna kill you. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #32

Everybody flash their "Democratic Party Exclusive Platinum Club" membership card! VOX Jun 2018 #33

They hate Dems, so what's rusty fender Jun 2018 #34

Here is why this rule is a super bad idea: Bondor Jun 2018 #35

The DNC can't "drive Bernie out" DFW Jun 2018 #36

+1 spooky3 Jun 2018 #78

👏 sprinkleeninow Jun 2018 #102

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jun 2018 #108

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #109

Bernie can't claim any fame to being the moral czar. R B Garr Jun 2018 #38

Mahalo for explaining that so explicitly Cha Jun 2018 #76

I know that I will not be enthusiastic about any candidate who has spooky3 Jun 2018 #77

Mahalo Cha. Thanks, I sure have a lot more to say R B Garr Jun 2018 #87

I know.. Cha Jun 2018 #88

K & R Wwcd Jun 2018 #91

Excellent analysis. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #110

No one is driving Bernie Sanders out. NY_20th Jun 2018 #39

Sorry, if you feel that way, please leave for good. Blue_true Jun 2018 #48

"... moral vision.. " GMAFB! The Democratic Party is Cha Jun 2018 #50

Why not join the party and change it from inside, if it needs changing, Blue_true Jun 2018 #51

I would refer you to this thread... TCJ70 Jun 2018 #53

There is no thread I know of where Sanders suggests he will join the Democratic Party. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #55

That is incorrect. Blue_true Jun 2018 #61

All Bernie has to do is join the party and say "I am a Democrat." It won't kill him. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #54

How do you "drive out" a person from a party he doesn't belong to? EffieBlack Jun 2018 #56

Permanent persecution complex grantcart Jun 2018 #65

LOL! Well spotted, grantcart. Hekate Jun 2018 #105

Still waiting on that answer ..... Wwcd Jun 2018 #92

So your vote is determined by this? Doubt there are a few million. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #62

The Dems? Careful with your tells. GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #74

of course i will vote for the Dem Bondor Jun 2018 #93

How can we "drive out" Bernie? Adrahil Jun 2018 #80

Bingo onetexan Jun 2018 #106

Bernie left us of his own free will, sneering all the way. So, enjoy your stay at DU, Bondor... Hekate Jun 2018 #104

Of course it does EffieBlack Jun 2018 #49

And this is one problem with the Democrat party. Crazy! Kajun Gal Jun 2018 #52

Democrat Party? MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #58

What Problem is that? What's "Crazy!"? Cha Jun 2018 #59

The Democratic Party might be shooting itself in the foot. This could really do more harm than good. YOHABLO Jun 2018 #57

No. You have to be a Dem to run for POTUS. Cha Jun 2018 #60

I doubt it. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #63

That's what I mean. Kajun Gal Jun 2018 #64

Well, The Democratic Party is Not "shooting itself in the foot". Cha Jun 2018 #84

How?!?! The demo base is loyal to democrtatic party uponit7771 Jun 2018 #81

The Democratic Party is not a bikeshare program. RandySF Jun 2018 #66

Scroom. gibraltar72 Jun 2018 #68

The Democratic party is NOT an exclusive club. Literally anyone can join. pnwmom Jun 2018 #69

TOO BAD, they better suck it up. Sanders is not a Democrat and he should not run in our elections trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #71

This is a typical Politico to stir up shit. I wonder who these Sanders supporters are? still_one Jun 2018 #73

I don't know who they are... but it was "thousands if not millions" NurseJackie Jun 2018 #75

K & R 🤣 Wwcd Jun 2018 #79

As usual Jackie, excellent incite. You put a smile on my face. Thanks still_one Jun 2018 #94

Well.. unfortunately I've Cha Jun 2018 #85

Not rocket science Cha, is it? still_one Jun 2018 #95

No, but you Cha Jun 2018 #96

So what if they're mad. Wwcd Jun 2018 #82

I agree with the new rule... chillfactor Jun 2018 #83

When are they not angry? betsuni Jun 2018 #86

"Well, ummm there was that one time...wait, no." Wwcd Jun 2018 #90

Touche' Cha Jun 2018 #97

I don't know a single Sanders supporter upset by this rule change. AtomicKitten Jun 2018 #98

If Sanders doesn't like the DNC rules, then he shouldn't be a D. stopbush Jun 2018 #100

I don't have the time or energy to wipe their noses. RandySF Jun 2018 #101

Deary deary me... Hekate Jun 2018 #103

I think this will end up causing far more alienation by some. We have to focus on winning. YOHABLO Jun 2018 #107

How does anyone know that? Renew Deal Jun 2018 #111

Politico being Politico... disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #112

Economist--Berned out Gothmog Jun 2018 #117