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139. I would oppose him for the primary anyway. In not talking about that. nt

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Who here on this website thinks Joy Reid is a transphobic, homophobe today?? [View all] boston bean Apr 2018 OP

I LOVE JOY REID Evergreen Emerald Apr 2018 #1

She has a history of making homophobic and transphobic comments. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #2

If she has a history of this I'm sure you can share a couple of them that are verified as her. Maraya1969 Apr 2018 #18

There are the blog posts she apologised for in December, for a start. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #23

She was pointing out Republican hypocrisy with Gov. Crist. This kind of R B Garr Apr 2018 #42

And with Lindsay Graham as well, I guess? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #47

She was mocking Republican hypocrisy, and she is on R B Garr Apr 2018 #55

Of course that is what she is doing. But she is ANTI rump and putin, so expect Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #127

I have made comments about Ann Coulter as have many people on here in the far past. Maraya1969 Apr 2018 #45

I think my comment was 100% accurate. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #49

I don't .. stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #50

I think it's entirely fair to say that someone who regularly employed homophobic tropes... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #51

So now 2003-2008 is "the better part of a decade" and "long history"? George II Apr 2018 #72

There are tweets from 2010 and 2011 Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #115

Better part of a decade? HA HA HA. So this cant be about the veracity of her response. bettyellen Apr 2018 #87

lol fail ..... stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #114

After looking at your posts over the last few days it is obvious you are out to hurt Ms. Reid Maraya1969 Apr 2018 #60

yet personal beliefs about something that you cannot produce verifiable Ninsianna Apr 2018 #134

Of course you do...... helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #179

Yes, and was forgiven by all, including Charlie Crist. But that wasn't enough to bring her down.... George II Apr 2018 #118

She should've apologised again instead of making stupid "I was hacked" claims (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #120

And how do you know that she wasn't hacked? Why should she apologize for something.... George II Apr 2018 #122

Because one of the blog posts in question was quoted and linked on DU in 2007, for a start? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #124

All I ask for is consistency, surely these folks can show us a lifetime of OVERTLY speaking out Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #128

And in the course of her speaking out she's made a lot of enemies. So what's the best way.... George II Apr 2018 #131

Worked on Franken! We keep falling for it but to be fair to "we" or "us" Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #132

Twitter. George II Apr 2018 #135

How are any of those "phobic" in any way? helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #178

who is next, Spider? Surely there must be a lot of "questionables" in your mind? hlthe2b Apr 2018 #25

Not especially, no Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #29

Glad to hear that, but she did apologize... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #36

She apologised for other blog posts, the current ones she claims were "hacked" Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #38

that is based on assuming the "way back machine" which is a single moment in time archive hlthe2b Apr 2018 #67

Never said she wasn't allowed to make a mistake Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #71

That article was written by a man who himself was convicted of hacking..... George II Apr 2018 #117

I would absolutely rely on his expertise in this area, since it's something he knows. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #119

and relying on the right wing agit prop is also defensible because that is after all Ninsianna Apr 2018 #136

Sorry, but I did my own analysis, because I'm not a technical illiterate. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #144

Are you a cyber security expert? helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #183

So you can turn around and proclaim her guilt because she apologized dansolo Apr 2018 #161

you seem very concerned . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #30

Not particularly? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #32

"our side". lol . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #33

Yep. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #35

That bothers me too. I dislike hypocrisy. Tipperary Apr 2018 #44

Nominally on our side? HA. That is complete bullshit. bettyellen Apr 2018 #88

Not only are many genuinely appalled by the absurdist tribalism on display over this, lapucelle Apr 2018 #95

+1 MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #107

What is this "tribalism" or "our side" of which you speak? George II Apr 2018 #121

"We have to unthinkingly defend Joy Reid because she's a progressive!" Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #123

I didn't see anyone say that. George II Apr 2018 #129

Not in so many words, but that's the general sentiment. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #130

You don't like that (possible) transparent lies are blindly defended..... George II Apr 2018 #133

I'm condemning her for lying about it. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #140

You know definitively that she's lying, without a doubt? George II Apr 2018 #142

I'm 100% certain of it. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #146

I think we should throw every Democratic female journalist that has ever said something leftofcool Apr 2018 #39

Like I said... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #41

"A history"? What constitutes a "history"? Is there a time frame involved to determine "history"? George II Apr 2018 #58

Consistently on her blog from c. 2005-2008, or so, and on Twitter through at least 2012? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #63

Now it's "consistently", from 13-10 years ago. Indeed. George II Apr 2018 #66

Can you point to a single one in the last five years? Eight years? pnwmom Apr 2018 #158

No, it'd indicate an awareness of changing climate. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #166

I believe she now understands that she has a wider audience than she did back in the days hughee99 Apr 2018 #174

I agree Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #3

I absolutley believe my side is the good side. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #11

I think if a progressive said abhorrent things consistently, there would be no doubt... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #21

I could see judging a Democrat differently treestar Apr 2018 #57

I'm just wary of a mix of absolutism and hypocrisy Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #65

The kind of intensity it is generating is a huge red flag for me. Plus Greenwald- hasnt he bettyellen Apr 2018 #76

It is a mixture of things that are driving this situation. Caliman73 Apr 2018 #83

+1 progressoid Apr 2018 #99

Hillary said some weird stuff about Nancy Reagan Funtatlaguy Apr 2018 #4

Hillary didn't claim not to have said it and been hacked dsc Apr 2018 #6

That would be strange. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #101

so let me get this straight dsc Apr 2018 #108

"to refuse to support her" NCTraveler Apr 2018 #111

Don't drag Hillary into this. Her mistake of being too nice about Nancy is NOT comparable. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #159

Nancy and Ronald Reagan were responsible Funtatlaguy Apr 2018 #164

I honestly have no idea dsc Apr 2018 #5

There are many real monsters, but Joy Reid is not one of them. IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2018 #7

This🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #162

This constant talking/writing about Joy will just keep it going. Let it sink..nt monmouth4 Apr 2018 #8

Russian bots? pwb Apr 2018 #9

Sometimes... Eyeball_Kid Apr 2018 #10

Here here. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #13

Uh Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #12

I could not care less what she might have said years ago. Tipperary Apr 2018 #14

We simply dont know. The onus is on the accuser to prove an accusation. Oneironaut Apr 2018 #15

Being a liberal means having an open mind (mho) kpete Apr 2018 #16

Do not be so Open Minded you let your brains fall out. MicaelS Apr 2018 #74

I'm going to go ahead and predict that Joy will end up being Al Frankened. betsuni Apr 2018 #17

I expect she will resign soon. leftofcool Apr 2018 #20

Gawd, I hope not... and I will be very angry if that happens hlthe2b Apr 2018 #22

I will too leftofcool Apr 2018 #24

I don't see how it's a "smear campaign" Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #31

Of course you don't. I would not expect you to see it. leftofcool Apr 2018 #40

Nope, MSNBC would fear being accused of racism if that were to happen. m-lekktor Apr 2018 #116

I do not. nt irisblue Apr 2018 #19

just the JPR types . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #26

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #28

I do not believe any of the attacks on Joy Reid Gothmog Apr 2018 #27

Neither do I and I do know why she is being attacked and by who, but apparently we cant Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #113

Well I'm on this website and since I don't follow any talking heads I had no idea who she is elocs Apr 2018 #34

This discussion (in general) is basically like a dog chasing our tails Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #37

Some DUers become nauseated at the very hint of a lie. oasis Apr 2018 #43

As if there are not white lies or smaller ones treestar Apr 2018 #48

True that. "Perspective is important". Our union president was no saint oasis Apr 2018 #56

So Bernie. Blue_true Apr 2018 #172

Joy is in a position to harangue Trump about his tax returns. oasis Apr 2018 #190

No, she is not treestar Apr 2018 #46

Not me. Now, let's get back to criticizing and resisting PatrickforO Apr 2018 #52

this nt irisblue Apr 2018 #73

Anybody who AlFrankens her is dead to me. Iggo Apr 2018 #53

You are halfway there to where I think we need to be. We should make it clear that the CANDIDATE of stevenleser Apr 2018 #82

Yep, Anyone. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2018 #110

Probably not, probably never was. Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #54

"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." George II Apr 2018 #59

Amen! But to the purist Puritans, no one, not even the author Pathwalker Apr 2018 #61

Agree.... quickesst Apr 2018 #62

I think she's wonderful! MoonRiver Apr 2018 #64

Stephanie Miller and Charlie Pierce voiced support. nolabear Apr 2018 #68

We evolve. PurgedVoter Apr 2018 #69

The real question is WHY... MicaelS Apr 2018 #70

Well someone in another thread just said there will be NO BLUE WAVE if Joy is done. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #77

I certainly doubt that, BUT... MicaelS Apr 2018 #79

It's one slice of one candidate's supporters doing this. They think this supports their candidate stevenleser Apr 2018 #80

Great post. MicaelS Apr 2018 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #103

Not much of a threat, You would do that anyway. Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #138

I would oppose him for the primary anyway. In not talking about that. nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #139

You mean you are advocating not supporting a dem presidential candidate in the general? Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #143

As a consequence for certain behavior if it continues and if Sanders gets the nom.nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #151

It is your vote and your right to do with it as you please LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #152

I'll try to get as many people as possible to do the same stevenleser Apr 2018 #153

so here on du you are openly saying you will work against the dem nominee? questionseverything Apr 2018 #188

Nope, only if one person is the nominee and only if some of their supporters continue certain stevenleser Apr 2018 #189

Lol. Right? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #141

Taking away a person's livelihood on false accusations isn't a threat? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #154

He threatened to do everything he could do to prevent Bernie from ever being president LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #156

We're talking about Joy Reid, not a particular politician. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #160

No, I was responding to the post talking about what that poster threatened to do LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #163

When that person gets finished manufacturing outrage at my statement... stevenleser Apr 2018 #168

REEEAAALLY?? This is veeery interesting! TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #169

Nope, nothing of the kind. stevenleser Apr 2018 #170

Keep on refighting those primaries! LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #173

Not refighting the primaries, take a look again at the OP and remind yourself of why we are here stevenleser Apr 2018 #175

Really? Then why bring up something that happened during the primary LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #176

Because the behavior has continued to present day. This isn't hard. nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #177

Then that makes it refighting the primaries LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #181

No, it doesn't. There is a present day event that we are discussing. stevenleser Apr 2018 #182

What happened regarding Sanders back in Mar 2016 IS A PRIMARY ISSUE LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #185

Now you are grasping for straws. You need to do the honest thing and simply admit stevenleser Apr 2018 #186

Ok, I admit you lost the argument. LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #187

What outrage? LostOne4Ever Apr 2018 #171

I think she's great! mcar Apr 2018 #75

I love Joy! dajoki Apr 2018 #78

She is not. leanforward Apr 2018 #81

Purity tests only serve the opposition. And furthermore... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2018 #85

Joy Reid is a hero of the resistance Pepsidog Apr 2018 #86

There has been so much change trickyguy Apr 2018 #89

just my 2 cents.... WomanWhoRoars Apr 2018 #90

Look at the root word of hotrod0808 Apr 2018 #91

A reminder of what innuendo, gossip and plain ol' solara Apr 2018 #92

We cannot be advocates for truth while requesting silence nolabels Apr 2018 #184

She has opinions and they seem to have evolved.. CentralMass Apr 2018 #93

Its fine WomanWhoRoars Apr 2018 #94

Good post. I don't think she is now - but she's kinda looking like a liar who won't own to her past. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #96

Thanks you Drunken Irish.... WomanWhoRoars Apr 2018 #97

I like Joy Reid and can accept someone's change, but.... MountCleaners Apr 2018 #98

I think she is learning and is not consumed with hate. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #100

No Liberalhammer Apr 2018 #102

Ha ha ha haa. So much hypocrisy. progressoid Apr 2018 #104

Like whom? thx in in advance uponit7771 Apr 2018 #105

Really. You think I am hypocritical? boston bean Apr 2018 #109

you got that right. m-lekktor Apr 2018 #145

I kinda agree and disagree with this. Funtatlaguy Apr 2018 #165

No, of course not. I detest this whataboutery that infects the Dem side. OnDoutside Apr 2018 #106

She's fine Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #112

"...prominent black women..." I think there's the problem right there. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #125

Not here. Joy Reid is good with me! democratisphere Apr 2018 #126

Every Fox News watcher in the country! tavernier Apr 2018 #137

I couldn't care less what Joy Reid is or isn't. nt m-lekktor Apr 2018 #147

Reasons #IStandWithJoyReid: Cha Apr 2018 #148

Nope. Still like her and I am sick of this bullshit. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #149

I don't think she should be boycotted or go. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #150

I wonder if it's possible BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #155

Love Joy Reid...she is not a homophobe. As posted previously I myself 'evolved on this issue. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #157

No. Never. She's on our side. jcmaine72 Apr 2018 #167

Ten years ago I thought gay marriage was premature and police treated blacks fairly! Chemisse Apr 2018 #180