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In reply to the discussion: An explanation of why Sanders' comments about Obama were offensive to many African Americans [View all]lunamagica
(9,967 posts)190. Two standing ovations by whie people wearing #feelthebern t shirts?
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An explanation of why Sanders' comments about Obama were offensive to many African Americans [View all]
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
OP
It is my opinion that Sen. Sanders said exactly what he meant to say. He does not like President
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#362
He always has if you look at what he says...yes he caucuses with us but over the years he has made
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#391
Better Wall Street here with all the good jobs than in China. Our pension is invested in a 401k.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#420
Love me some Dr Reverend Barber myself. BTW, I think he got ordained as Bishop last year.
iluvtennis
Apr 2018
#41
Thank you for this post. I hope those who need to hear this listen and try to understand!
bobbieinok
Apr 2018
#4
Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable.
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#195
I suggest all the people who immediately look for reasons to attack either Clinton
karynnj
Apr 2018
#268
I think its Sanders who originated this divisiveness by wrongly saying Dems are losing- he is
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#300
Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable.
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#131
Then maybe he could actually JOIN the party he's trying to bring back to its roots?
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#227
I don't think you get that was the wrong fucking event to go there with those comments
nini
Apr 2018
#359
Bernie has no business criticizing obama or Democratic party given us is not a democrat
onetexan
Apr 2018
#392
The headline of all of the coverage of Sanders appearance is "Sanders calls Dems a failure"
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#40
Uhm, the person in question has constantly attacked the party and it's leaders
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#132
Only two possibilities, deliberate gaslighting, or their obsessive devotion to Sanders has blinded
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#255
We get the other side perfectly well. Its so superficial we couldnt miss it.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#405
You have every right to your opinion and I would never tell you your opinion on something like this
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#423
I think some of the responses you're talking about were responding to you and others
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#438
I didn't say I was speaking for all African Americans - in fact I explicitly said otherwise
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#32
Your point as you explain it, seems to be defending how you HEARD it. And that is what is important
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#234
But can you at least understand that what you heard was not what he meant?
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#266
My post wasn't about what Bernie may or may not have "meant"- it was about what he SAID and how it
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#279
But what you perceived he meant is vitally important to your position!
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2018
#310
Almost as if I could have bet you $1000 that would happen...and given 5-1 odds
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#139
"but, beyond that reality" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about that is not being understood ?!
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#113
It's EASY to see the fault in that, if you don't have Bernie-shaped glasses over your eyes.
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#225
Whoa, talk about tone-deaf! Sounds like the audience took this as another Sanders rally
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#144
It is so incredibly disrespectful. There's no doubt that the only reason they were there was to see
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#182
Please note I didn't say he never mentioned Dr. King at all - I said he HARDLY mentioned him
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#286
She is probably only speaking for about 98% of them, so naturally THAT is what
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#142
How is one person's perspective based on their experience any more valid than anyone else's?
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#76
all - obama, sanders, and clinton, as leaders, have continued the biggest political mistake in histo
certainot
Apr 2018
#158
liberals have been ignoring it for 30 years. to fix it digitize talk radio - so it can be read.
certainot
Apr 2018
#435
Sanders will need to attract new voters from somewhere to win the nomination.
TexasTowelie
Apr 2018
#303
Perfect beyond perfect and put to words far more eloquently than I ever could have. You may not
Afromania
Apr 2018
#33
"my 4 decades plus living and working every day in impacted urban communities"
BumRushDaShow
Apr 2018
#60
+1. Spidey sense is an invaluable asset when confronting anonymous internet denizens, and I think..
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2018
#243
So, you assume that any black person who criticized Sanders in the past must have an ulterior motive
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#69
I did too, I can read ... "but" did NOT belong in the statement that Sanders made ...
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#116
Correct, that was the best possible spin. Which still indicates he doesn't belong on the national
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#256
They are either racist, indifferent to his racism, which is racist, or they just
Doodley
Apr 2018
#321
Obama was a brilliant man and President who took office during a tumultuous time in American history
Pepsidog
Apr 2018
#56
Curious how bernie ended up at that event when there are many many far greater than him
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#59
Ignoring everything after the but is a convenient way to ignore the rest of what was said
TCJ70
Apr 2018
#67
Again, you're explaining what he "meant" and ignoring how it was heard by other people who may see
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#92
You mean like interpreting the rest of the comment as "reinforcing the compliment to President Obama
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#107
Yes, he probably would have been criticized for not mention the first black president at an event
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#129
BINGO !!! THAT criticism of the DNC wasn't even needed at that event in context to the
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#120
Eliminating any mention of the first African American president at an MLK commemoration event...
TCJ70
Apr 2018
#143
He can mention the name of the first AA POTUS but not in the unfair negative context
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#152
.... and not needed in that setting !!! The CEO of GM is great but GM sucks is not the type
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#125
RIGHT !!! Damn, they act like we can't read ... But means in contrast to which either
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#122
+1, every time we turn around something negative about the DNC comes out of Sanders mouF
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#146
"He's accomplished a lot in educating people about economic inequities over the past 30 years"
BumRushDaShow
Apr 2018
#222
"Who else has been getting up to 20,000 people to show up to hear him/her speak?" Trump
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#434
There are many reasons for the losses and have nothing to do with Democrats failing.
honest.abe
Apr 2018
#101
Something negative about the DNC that Obama was leader of which wasn't needed
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#127
Sanders comments were also offensive to non-African American supports of Pres. Obama
Gothmog
Apr 2018
#78
***WINNER*** I did not look at your post before posting multiple times his comment at best
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#130
Read the transcript, everyone on the dais failed to explicitly praise Dr. King.
HenryWallace
Apr 2018
#307
The criticism of Sanders here from DU blacks is in context of Sanders consummate bashing of the
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#157
Gerrymandering and voter suppression had NOTHING to do with losses of seats?!!!?
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#278
Standing ovations by an audience that was 98% white and filled with Sanders supporters
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#166
I'll go with the bylined, published news account instead of a couple of tweets from HootHootBern &
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#232
President Donald Trump, the white Don King.... Such a loaded criticism packed into so few words
zaj
Apr 2018
#102
WOW!!! What an articulate thought provoking OP. That double standard is a manifestation of
still_one
Apr 2018
#121
A thoughtful and inclusive explanation of your position in regards to Senator Sanders...
Tom Rinaldo
Apr 2018
#161
Thanks for taking time to read and think about my OP and for taking time to respond so thoughtfully
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#184
Those who want to understand will, those who still can't let go of their historical grooming won't
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#357
You proved how easy it is to reply with a standard stump speech instead of on point to the OP
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#258
It's all about Bernie. He would have said the same thing if we had a white Democrat in the White
Doodley
Apr 2018
#180
You will never hear me use that curse word (but) in any sentence about Barack Obama, EffieBlack!
Cracklin Charlie
Apr 2018
#197
I am very proud of Obama but I feel the reaction to Bernie is a bit overblown.
lancelyons
Apr 2018
#207
Talking "highly" of Dr. King does not cancel out what sounds to many like criticism of Obama
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#215
Not in the context of his statements about Obama, even saying Obama should be primaired.
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#282
While I understand your argument, and I appreciate the unique challenges Obama had as our first
JCanete
Apr 2018
#208
I think all of that would have been nice...I have still not seen this in full because I can't find
JCanete
Apr 2018
#352
Bravo, EffieB!! You have opened a few minds today, and I hank you greatly for it.
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#223
Yep, because the same folks who are criticizing the OP, ran off a lot of the AA members.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#260
There is a reason people don't pretend to know what is in other people's minds.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#347
This African American thinks your post is excellent, and definitely speaks for me.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2018
#259
It appears to me that when Bernie was marching to protest civil rights abuses
TexasTowelie
Apr 2018
#261
Don't know if mentioned too many comments on this OP to sift through, but the root had a blog on
lunasun
Apr 2018
#283
Nope, I graded your post "obtuse" but that is because your post earned the grade.
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#451
Excellent!!!! and The inserted Video of Rev. Dr. William J. Barber Sums it up
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#328
How can at this point 8488 claimed Democrats read this, and it has only 205 DU votes
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#342
A gazillion threads & comments and I HAVE YET TO READ ANY verbatim quotes or context --Until I do,
Kashkakat v.2.0
Apr 2018
#344
Take what with a grain of salt? How someone tells you certain words made them feel?
stevenleser
Apr 2018
#348
I mean if person A makes a statement, and person B paraphrases it and doesnt give an exact quote or
Kashkakat v.2.0
Apr 2018
#372
Great post...rec. I am only sorry that in 2018 such a post still needs to be written.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#363
I learned from the primaries that I should never tell anyone to not be offended by Bernie.
aikoaiko
Apr 2018
#419
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that minorities only want to hear better rhetoric..
aikoaiko
Apr 2018
#430
I don't have a problem with him having a different view. My problem is his refusal to listen to
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#441