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In reply to the discussion: What is an "assault rifle," he asked sarcastically. [View all]aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)62. You are factually incorrect. AR lowers were never banned.
Here is the text of the 1994 AWB.
TITLE XI--FIREARMS
SUBTITLE A--ASSAULT WEAPONS
Sec. 110101. Short title.
Sec. 110102. Restriction on manufacture, transfer, and possession of certain semiautomatic assault weapons.
Sec. 110103. Ban of large capacity ammunition feeding devices. Sec. 110104. Study by Attorney General.
Sec. 110105. Effective date.
Sec. 110106. Appendix A to section 922 of title 18.
--------------------------------------------------------
SEC. 110101. SHORT TITLE.
This subtitle may be cited as the `Public Safety and Recreational
Firearms Use Protection Act'.
SEC. 110102. RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION
OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.
(a) RESTRICTION- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:
`(v)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to manufacture,
transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon.
`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer
of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed
under Federal law on the date of the enactment of this subsection.
`(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--
`(A) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of the
firearms, specified in Appendix A to this section, as such
firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993;
`(B) any firearm that--
`(i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide
action;
`(ii) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or
`(iii) is an antique firearm;
`(C) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable
magazine that holds more than 5 rounds of ammunition; or
`(D) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5
rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine.
The fact that a firearm is not listed in Appendix A shall not be
construed to mean that paragraph (1) applies to such firearm. No
firearm exempted by this subsection may be deleted from Appendix A
so long as this subsection is in effect.
`(4) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--
`(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the
United States or a department or agency of the United States or
a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a
State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement
officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law
enforcement (whether on or off duty);
`(B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic
Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining
an on-site physical protection system and security organization
required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or
contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or
off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or
transportation of nuclear materials;
`(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from
service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise
prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic assault
weapon transferred to the individual by the agency upon such
retirement; or
`(D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a
semiautomatic assault weapon by a licensed manufacturer or
licensed importer for the purposes of testing or
experimentation authorized by the Secretary.'.
(b) DEFINITION OF SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON- Section 921(a) of
title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the
following new paragraph:
`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
`(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
`(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
`(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
`(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
`(iv) Colt AR-15;
`(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
`(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
`(vii) Steyr AUG;
`(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
`(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar
to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
`(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath
the action of the weapon;
`(iii) a bayonet mount;
`(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to
accommodate a flash suppressor; and
`(v) a grenade launcher;
`(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
`(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol
outside of the pistol grip;
`(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel
extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
`(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or
completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the
shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand
without being burned;
`(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the
pistol is unloaded; and
`(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and
`(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath
the action of the weapon;
`(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
`(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.
(c) PENALTIES-
(1) VIOLATION OF SECTION 922(v)- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of such
title is amended by striking `or (q) of section 922' and
inserting `(r), or (v) of section 922'.
(2) USE OR POSSESSION DURING CRIME OF VIOLENCE OR DRUG
TRAFFICKING CRIME- Section 924(c)(1) of such title is amended
in the first sentence by inserting `, or semiautomatic assault
weapon,' after `short-barreled shotgun,'.
(d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS FOR SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS-
Section 923(i) of such title is amended by adding at the end the
following: `The serial number of any semiautomatic assault weapon
manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall
clearly show the date on which the weapon was manufactured.'.
SEC. 110103. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
(a) PROHIBITION- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as
amended by section 110102(a), is amended by adding at the end the
following new subsection:
`(w)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful
for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition
feeding device.
`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer
of any large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully
possessed on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.
`(3) This subsection shall not apply to--
`(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the
United States or a department or agency of the United States or
a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a
State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement
officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law
enforcement (whether on or off duty);
`(B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic
Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining
an on-site physical protection system and security organization
required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or
contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or
off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or
transportation of nuclear materials;
`(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from
service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise
prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity
ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the
agency upon such retirement; or
`(D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of any large
capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer
or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or
experimentation authorized by the Secretary.'.
`(4) If a person charged with violating paragraph (1) asserts
that paragraph (1) does not apply to such person because of
paragraph (2) or (3), the Government shall have the burden of proof
to show that such paragraph (1) applies to such person. The lack of
a serial number as described in section 923(i) of title 18, United
States Code, shall be a presumption that the large capacity
ammunition feeding device is not subject to the prohibition of
possession in paragraph (1).'.
(b) DEFINITION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE-
Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by
section 110102(b), is amended by adding at the end the following
new paragraph:
`(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--
`(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar
device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent
Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a
capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to
accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but
`(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to
accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire
ammunition.'.
(c) PENALTY- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of title 18, United States
Code, as amended by section 110102(c)(1), is amended by striking
`or (v)' and inserting `(v), or (w)'.
(d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS FOR LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
DEVICES- Section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, as amended
by section 110102(d) of this Act, is amended by adding at the end
the following: `A large capacity ammunition feeding device
manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall
be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device
was manufactured or imported after the effective date of this
subsection, and such other identification as the Secretary may by
regulation prescribe.'.
SEC. 110104. STUDY BY ATTORNEY GENERAL.
(a) STUDY- The Attorney General shall investigate and study the
effect of this subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle,
and in particular shall determine their impact, if any, on violent
and drug trafficking crime. The study shall be conducted over a
period of 18 months, commencing 12 months after the date of
enactment of this Act.
(b) REPORT- Not later than 30 months after the date of enactment
of this Act, the Attorney General shall prepare and submit to the
Congress a report setting forth in detail the findings and
determinations made in the study under subsection (a).
SEC. 110105. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle--
(1) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this
Act; and
(2) are repealed effective as of the date that is 10 years
after that date.
SEC. 110106. APPENDIX A TO SECTION 922 OF TITLE 18.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding
at the end the following appendix:
`APPENDIX A <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--AUTOLOADERS <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--LEVER & SLIDE <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--BOLT ACTION <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--SINGLE SHOT <<-BOLD>
DRILLINGS, COMBINATION GUNS, DOUBLE RIFLES <<-BOLD>
RIMFIRE RIFLES--AUTOLOADERS <<-BOLD>
RIMFIRE RIFLES--LEVER & SLIDE ACTION <<-BOLD>
RIMFIRE RIFLES--BOLT ACTIONS & SINGLE SHOTS <<-BOLD>
COMPETITION RIFLES--CENTERFIRE & RIMFIRE <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--AUTOLOADERS <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--SLIDE ACTIONS <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--OVER/UNDERS <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--SIDE BY SIDES <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--BOLT ACTIONS & SINGLE SHOTS <<-BOLD>
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x87023
SUBTITLE A--ASSAULT WEAPONS
Sec. 110101. Short title.
Sec. 110102. Restriction on manufacture, transfer, and possession of certain semiautomatic assault weapons.
Sec. 110103. Ban of large capacity ammunition feeding devices. Sec. 110104. Study by Attorney General.
Sec. 110105. Effective date.
Sec. 110106. Appendix A to section 922 of title 18.
--------------------------------------------------------
SEC. 110101. SHORT TITLE.
This subtitle may be cited as the `Public Safety and Recreational
Firearms Use Protection Act'.
SEC. 110102. RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION
OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.
(a) RESTRICTION- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:
`(v)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to manufacture,
transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon.
`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer
of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed
under Federal law on the date of the enactment of this subsection.
`(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--
`(A) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of the
firearms, specified in Appendix A to this section, as such
firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993;
`(B) any firearm that--
`(i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide
action;
`(ii) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or
`(iii) is an antique firearm;
`(C) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable
magazine that holds more than 5 rounds of ammunition; or
`(D) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5
rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine.
The fact that a firearm is not listed in Appendix A shall not be
construed to mean that paragraph (1) applies to such firearm. No
firearm exempted by this subsection may be deleted from Appendix A
so long as this subsection is in effect.
`(4) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--
`(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the
United States or a department or agency of the United States or
a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a
State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement
officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law
enforcement (whether on or off duty);
`(B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic
Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining
an on-site physical protection system and security organization
required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or
contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or
off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or
transportation of nuclear materials;
`(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from
service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise
prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic assault
weapon transferred to the individual by the agency upon such
retirement; or
`(D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a
semiautomatic assault weapon by a licensed manufacturer or
licensed importer for the purposes of testing or
experimentation authorized by the Secretary.'.
(b) DEFINITION OF SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON- Section 921(a) of
title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the
following new paragraph:
`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
`(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
`(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
`(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
`(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
`(iv) Colt AR-15;
`(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
`(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
`(vii) Steyr AUG;
`(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
`(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar
to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
`(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath
the action of the weapon;
`(iii) a bayonet mount;
`(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to
accommodate a flash suppressor; and
`(v) a grenade launcher;
`(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
`(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol
outside of the pistol grip;
`(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel
extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
`(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or
completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the
shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand
without being burned;
`(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the
pistol is unloaded; and
`(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and
`(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath
the action of the weapon;
`(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
`(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.
(c) PENALTIES-
(1) VIOLATION OF SECTION 922(v)- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of such
title is amended by striking `or (q) of section 922' and
inserting `(r), or (v) of section 922'.
(2) USE OR POSSESSION DURING CRIME OF VIOLENCE OR DRUG
TRAFFICKING CRIME- Section 924(c)(1) of such title is amended
in the first sentence by inserting `, or semiautomatic assault
weapon,' after `short-barreled shotgun,'.
(d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS FOR SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS-
Section 923(i) of such title is amended by adding at the end the
following: `The serial number of any semiautomatic assault weapon
manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall
clearly show the date on which the weapon was manufactured.'.
SEC. 110103. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
(a) PROHIBITION- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as
amended by section 110102(a), is amended by adding at the end the
following new subsection:
`(w)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful
for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition
feeding device.
`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer
of any large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully
possessed on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.
`(3) This subsection shall not apply to--
`(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the
United States or a department or agency of the United States or
a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a
State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement
officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law
enforcement (whether on or off duty);
`(B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic
Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining
an on-site physical protection system and security organization
required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or
contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or
off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or
transportation of nuclear materials;
`(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from
service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise
prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity
ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the
agency upon such retirement; or
`(D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of any large
capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer
or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or
experimentation authorized by the Secretary.'.
`(4) If a person charged with violating paragraph (1) asserts
that paragraph (1) does not apply to such person because of
paragraph (2) or (3), the Government shall have the burden of proof
to show that such paragraph (1) applies to such person. The lack of
a serial number as described in section 923(i) of title 18, United
States Code, shall be a presumption that the large capacity
ammunition feeding device is not subject to the prohibition of
possession in paragraph (1).'.
(b) DEFINITION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE-
Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by
section 110102(b), is amended by adding at the end the following
new paragraph:
`(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--
`(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar
device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent
Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a
capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to
accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but
`(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to
accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire
ammunition.'.
(c) PENALTY- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of title 18, United States
Code, as amended by section 110102(c)(1), is amended by striking
`or (v)' and inserting `(v), or (w)'.
(d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS FOR LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
DEVICES- Section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, as amended
by section 110102(d) of this Act, is amended by adding at the end
the following: `A large capacity ammunition feeding device
manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall
be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device
was manufactured or imported after the effective date of this
subsection, and such other identification as the Secretary may by
regulation prescribe.'.
SEC. 110104. STUDY BY ATTORNEY GENERAL.
(a) STUDY- The Attorney General shall investigate and study the
effect of this subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle,
and in particular shall determine their impact, if any, on violent
and drug trafficking crime. The study shall be conducted over a
period of 18 months, commencing 12 months after the date of
enactment of this Act.
(b) REPORT- Not later than 30 months after the date of enactment
of this Act, the Attorney General shall prepare and submit to the
Congress a report setting forth in detail the findings and
determinations made in the study under subsection (a).
SEC. 110105. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle--
(1) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this
Act; and
(2) are repealed effective as of the date that is 10 years
after that date.
SEC. 110106. APPENDIX A TO SECTION 922 OF TITLE 18.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding
at the end the following appendix:
`APPENDIX A <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--AUTOLOADERS <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--LEVER & SLIDE <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--BOLT ACTION <<-BOLD>
CENTERFIRE RIFLES--SINGLE SHOT <<-BOLD>
DRILLINGS, COMBINATION GUNS, DOUBLE RIFLES <<-BOLD>
RIMFIRE RIFLES--AUTOLOADERS <<-BOLD>
RIMFIRE RIFLES--LEVER & SLIDE ACTION <<-BOLD>
RIMFIRE RIFLES--BOLT ACTIONS & SINGLE SHOTS <<-BOLD>
COMPETITION RIFLES--CENTERFIRE & RIMFIRE <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--AUTOLOADERS <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--SLIDE ACTIONS <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--OVER/UNDERS <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--SIDE BY SIDES <<-BOLD>
SHOTGUNS--BOLT ACTIONS & SINGLE SHOTS <<-BOLD>
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Good people, both him and his sister. Local musician, stole Pootie's statue from Pootie's bar...
marble falls
Mar 2018
#186
Excellent. It is also weapon of choice of 3%ers, oathkeepers, militia groups, racists, white wingers
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#3
Ever notice that you never see these clowns with one-shot, bolt-action deer rifles?
Aristus
Mar 2018
#10
I think the data show that handguns are still the preferred weapon of school shooters.
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#4
Not a dodge. The AWB you tote covers semiauto rifles, shotguns, & handguns in certain configurations
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#9
So because gunners insist on writing watered-down laws that allow too many loopholes
shanny
Mar 2018
#15
Not quite. The latest AWB after Sandy Hook was defeated by changing the grip for $35
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#16
Look, I'm no big gun fan, don't know a ton about them but s/he appears to be correct ...
mr_lebowski
Mar 2018
#59
"If the gun nuts don't stop this obfuscation all weapons will be banned in the US within 5 years"
EX500rider
Mar 2018
#133
Ban them all, but put in a provision to send all ex gun owners thoughts and prayers cards.
Canoe52
Mar 2018
#192
"As one who seems to think the blood of innocent people is just the price we have to pay...
EX500rider
Mar 2018
#152
Rate of fire for all semi-autos are pretty much the same. Reloading magazines slows them down.
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#195
I understand the lower is the only part regulated as a firearm, but that has never been
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#34
you are not up on the debate...all of the things that I have said are part of current legislation
mentalslavery
Mar 2018
#51
I just did dude, we had an national assault weapons band that sunsetted after W
mentalslavery
Mar 2018
#55
you dont not know how to read legislation...section C...you figured otu the google tho!
mentalslavery
Mar 2018
#66
I love it .....the legislation literally says Colt AR and your like, it never banned AR lowers..WHAA
mentalslavery
Mar 2018
#70
You should have walked away before sputtering nonsense about lowers being banned in 94.
Marengo
Mar 2018
#173
Legislatures will study and review the guns that have been used in mass shootings
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#91
Handguns are responsible for far greater numbers of gun deaths and injury than rifles of any type...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#177
ANY Gun of any size or clip capability is an ASSAULT weapon, Guns are made for
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#276
Yes, its true that they don't have all the parts and you can't drive them on roads typically,
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#108
The Shermans main gun is classified as a large bore destructive device under Title II, and most...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#238
You have made several demonstrably false statements in this discussion and have been corrected.
Marengo
Mar 2018
#251
I have shown it is illegal, at least in California, the jurisdiction I am familiar with.
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#261
Nonsense, you added that qualifier AFTER you were proven wrong. You are not well informed on...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#262
Wrong. The person I was responding to offered no qualifier, saying it was "perfectly legal."
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#264
Rubbish, it is legal on a FEDERAL level, and in a majority of states. California code does not...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#269
If it is not legal for the majority of the US population; it's not "perfectly legal."
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#271
Heres a link to list of NFA laws by state compiled by a Class 3 dealer. The LBDD column containes..
Marengo
Mar 2018
#326
Uh oh, looks like youre wrong again. Legal with a permit from the California DOJ, 12305(b).
Marengo
Mar 2018
#327
LOL! You claimed it is illegal to possess a large bore destructive device in CA, turns out its not
Marengo
Mar 2018
#334
Sorry, but you are owned by your own citation. 12305(b) allows for possession by individuals
Marengo
Mar 2018
#336
Nope. Narrow, CADOJ approved uses of cannons hardly equate to it being "perfectly legal."
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#337
Sorry, your own citation proves a process exists to allow individuals to apply for a permit to....
Marengo
Mar 2018
#339
That's like saying because a surgeon can cut someone open, it is "perfectly legal" to cut someone.
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#340
You were making shit up in post 104, and when proven wrong you starting tossing out qualfiers...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#355
In other words, you were wrong. Did you intentionally fail to mention the statute provides...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#348
No, I cited the statute accurately. You wrongly said it was "perfectly legal."
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#350
No, you are either uninformed or are being disingenuous. The good cause provision is not limited...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#354
I have one of these in my barn. Rebuilding the engine. Is this a "swat tank"?
oneshooter
Mar 2018
#316
17 people were killed in Parkland in 6 minutes, 26 people were killed in Sandy Hook....
George II
Mar 2018
#83
There are different ways to look at it - we can look at the number of incidents and weapons....
George II
Mar 2018
#89
I agree there are different ways to look at it. Legitimate and illiminating ways.
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#93
You are making an argument for the US to ban the sales and possession of semi-auto handguns. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2018
#182
Banning all semi-autos would be more consistent with what anti-gun violence want.
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#185
Not necessary, most gun deaths are due to semi-auto handguns, frankly I have little interest...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2018
#208
Handguns are responsible for a multitude of killings every single day across the country
MichMan
Mar 2018
#102
So let's stiffen the penalties for illegal carry...and make every single person who wants one
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#224
Just because some won't get the max is no reason not have laws...people still murder but
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#272
Perhaps I sent this to the wrong person...but those who say a law won't work because some will
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#297
And I presume it was a standard hand gun that was emptied into that black man in Sacto
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#277
I personally like..."oh...ok...well if you don't know what one is then you won't miss it"
mentalslavery
Mar 2018
#60
You wouldnt align with Scalia on Texas v Johnson, Maryland v King, or Brown v EMA?
Marengo
Mar 2018
#178
Until we evolve, i.e. grow up and stop needing these toys, we should allow the 2nd to be
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#278
Thank you for a perfectly reasonable response to the first part of my question.
Stonepounder
Mar 2018
#275
No guns would be needed at all, well almost none, if we enforced the 2nd
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#279
I imagine most of them would say they plan to shoot it next time they go to the range or hunting.
EX500rider
Mar 2018
#68
Are you suggesting a Porsche should not be legal to own because it looks fast?
MichMan
Mar 2018
#157
I'm sorry I even mentioned cars ... I see that used all the time now in arguments between pro-gun
MaryMagdaline
Mar 2018
#312
No, you've answered it. You would kill animals that are menacing children (or others)
MaryMagdaline
Mar 2018
#236
Excellent counterpoints. Make the owners know about the effects. To their family/friends/loved ones
erronis
Mar 2018
#124
Why does anyone honestly own a gun outside of hunters and hunting rifles?
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#281
What an "assault weapon" is depends on how Congress and legislatures define it when
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#81
-1000. It can be modified damn close. Besides in "legal" format, it's plenty lethal. Why else would
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#105
Kills effectively, makes you feel powerful as one mass shooter put it, easy to conceal, etc., is
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#254
"Why don't you guys give up these weapons voluntarily like "responsible" citizens."
EX500rider
Mar 2018
#259
Fine, semi-auto handguns should be restricted too. AR15s are the most popular guns among
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#107
Exactly. Interview an ER doctor or EMT and let them describe what matters about these weapons.
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#115
If you want meaningful legislation on something you won't get there through ignorance of the subject
EX500rider
Mar 2018
#116
Dont coddle gunners by trying to carve out some of their favorite lethal weapons. Just, ban
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#122
Excellent! I will shamelessly borrow from this in future discussions with gun nuts.
Nitram
Mar 2018
#125
"How about we ask all the people at Parkland that were killed what they think it means?"
cstanleytech
Mar 2018
#153
Cho Seung-Hui managed to kill 32 people with handgun powered ammunition, more than the MSD...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#180
As a veteran myself, Im always curious about other vets service eras, experiences, duty stations...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#200
What are the legitimate civilian uses of an AR-15 that can't be achieved...
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2018
#257
For years, the "gunner" crowd insisted there was no passion for gun control.
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#235
This weekend will have proved absolutely nothing if it does not result in legislation.
hack89
Mar 2018
#302
What I see happening is UBCs, tighter background checks and maybe magazine size limits
hack89
Mar 2018
#311
You just said we would get "nothing." Then you said we'd get UBCs and mag limits.
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#320
By that criteria, an AWB similarly "won't impact the vast majority of gun owners."
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#332
Wrong. 67% of Americans, including 53% of gun owners, favor an assault weapons ban.
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#342
History told us we'd never have millions of people take to the streets for gun control.
SunSeeker
Mar 2018
#346