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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders' Economic Inequality Town Hall Draws 1.7 Million Live Viewers [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)347. I have no reason at all to argue with you on that point because we can't even get
on that page as a party. If we could, we could start debating about who had the best plans to solve it, but you cannot solve the problem if you don't even correctly point to what it is.
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Bernie Sanders' Economic Inequality Town Hall Draws 1.7 Million Live Viewers [View all]
Donkees
Mar 2018
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If you clicked on it, watched 15 seconds and didn't like what you were seeing...
George II
Mar 2018
#47
or even if you clicked on it 300 times from overseas, and don't speak a word of English,
BoneyardDem
Mar 2018
#131
To the contrary. We should call out anyone who does not support the liberal values
pampango
Mar 2018
#392
The Democratic Party has to be big tent in order to gain a majority...and there is no consensus on
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#399
I am a liberal so I have liberal values. I want universal health care, living wage, something done
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#418
No...not by an independent who is not a member of the party...and he usually just generalizes...like
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#397
How do you feel about him being one of the most reliable votes for progressive issues for 25 years?
Hassin Bin Sober
Mar 2018
#23
I think the results of the Mayoral election in Burlington two weeks ago says it all.
George II
Mar 2018
#58
Yeah, but she only got 36% of the vote, only about 1/3 of the voters of Burlington approved of her.
George II
Mar 2018
#96
Don't forget voting against immigration reform, voting five times against the Brady Bill, the Amber
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#111
In this day and age we need our Democrats to vote in favor of tougher gun legislation, not....
George II
Mar 2018
#35
Ask any civil rights activist fighting on legislation and noms on Capitol Hill for their go-to list
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#113
well why do you think that is? Look at where our politics has taken us. Look at what our Dems
JCanete
Mar 2018
#118
so buddies who work together on a lot of different issues, including the ones I spoke to
JCanete
Mar 2018
#143
I was knee-deep in these fights and know firsthand exactly what Im talking about
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#145
that was off the cuff, and it was a dumb comment on my part really, because there are
JCanete
Mar 2018
#150
You surely dont mean it that way but your lecture about civil rights and economic inequality
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#166
It cannot work that way. That would be an entirely different kind of patronizing. If I don't
JCanete
Mar 2018
#168
Wait, what the fuck did we get in the omnibus bill? Less bad stuff than we could have gotten?
JCanete
Mar 2018
#450
I remember well when a certain group turned against Rep. John Lewis for saying he didn't
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#119
And, I say again, they wonder why black folk don't fall all over themselves for Bernie
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#208
He deserves all our respect. He is a tried and true progressive, and one who has shed blood
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#286
I have met Congressman Lewis and have heard his "preaching to chickens" story 4 times
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#350
Right. It is incredibly insulting. But I'm glad they keep showing us their true selves
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#251
"Used in that way"? How was he "used"? Representative Lewis is the most honorable and respected...
George II
Mar 2018
#246
Because he refuses to acknolwedge that Bernie is the greatest civil rights activist of ALL TIME!!!
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#248
He allowed himself to be used to promote the false implication that Senator Sanders
stranger81
Mar 2018
#266
John Lewis NEVER said that Sanders was not involved in the civil rights movement....
George II
Mar 2018
#283
Did you approve of the Sanders delegates booing Congressman John Lewis. at the DNC?
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#349
I don't think that kind of public display of disrespect towards Rep. Lewis is appropriate or helpful
stranger81
Mar 2018
#357
You never responded, wonder why? The fact that they both worked for the same organization...
George II
Mar 2018
#341
Misleading is short hand for lie, so Rep Lewis is being called a liar here and it stands. got it
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#352
John Lewis' statement was 100% factual, and he made it of his own volition. He was "used"...
George II
Mar 2018
#372
Sanders spent two (2) years in the civil rights movement as a college student.
George II
Mar 2018
#373
You told me to come and look at what you where talking about, and that I was putting words in your m
all american girl
Mar 2018
#361
It's preposterous to try to claim now that no implications were attached to Rep. Lewis's statement.
stranger81
Mar 2018
#362
Please explain to me why the elder of a nationwide movement would know
all american girl
Mar 2018
#375
But the bottom line is that nothing he said was incorrect despite what some....
George II
Mar 2018
#407
One protest in 63 is not really impressive...unless I missed something after that.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#419
You accused Congressman Lewis of using misleading terms and making false statements
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#431
Misunderstood...yeah Wellstone was a good guy...I thought you meant Sen. Sanders and he is still
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#401
I often wonder what would have happened if Wellstone had lived...he had an impact
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#453
His death was a tragedy for America. A loss for the most vulnerable among us
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#460
Wellstone was the REAL deal, true American patriot, true liberal. Great man.
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#128
That is insane, did not know that. Wellstone was not a sellout at any level on any issue.
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#420
He didn't think that evolving on an issue when you got new information was "selling out,"
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#422
Paul was being called an "establishment sellout" by the purists at the time of his death
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#409
And like Neil DeGrasse Tyson recommended, he thought it was OK to change his mind
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#414
Only 10% of "Independents" don't vote along party lines. No idea why there is any suggestion that
seaglass
Mar 2018
#196
One office - Governor is often taken by Repubs because of the super majority of Dems in
seaglass
Mar 2018
#298
Let me just say that I wish a whole lot more states were like Massachusetts
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2018
#316
because what you really want is for him to run third party? You would have no beef with that? hmmm?
JCanete
Mar 2018
#120
Sanders didn't "do well in terms of numbers of voters"? That's an unusual interpretation of
KPN
Mar 2018
#388
Turnout would be the number of voters who cast votes for a politician in an election.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#389
That will never happen. The new deal relied on government sponsored jobs and unionization.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#65
The things that solved issues in the 1930's won't work now. It is a different world...the answers
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#183
No, many things from other decades still work. Thing's aren't automatically
whathehell
Mar 2018
#219
Unions have been demonized and free trade has driven them out...that is a fact. We soon
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#276
I am not giving up...just have to find new solutions. I am working my ass off...I live in Ohio
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#282
It was said by someone perhaps not you that Europe had adopted Roosevelt policies. I don't see that.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#332
When you get a chance...I looked through it and didn't see it. I will do so again...Sorry about that
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#367
We are not going to get a new deal through...I don't know what else to say.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#311
I discussed why and what..."get the new deal" is the mother of blanket statements.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#325
I know what the new deal was...I studied it in economics, my Grandparents loved Roosevelt
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#333
No it is not...it is self defeating to try to do stuff that won't happen...figure out what can work
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#97
The middle class will continue to be plundered if we don't win elections. That is our priority. As
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#179
Getting where and how do we get there...I saw nothing practical last night...just rhetoric.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#178
It just seems a waste of time. We know from PA that the issue was healthcare in district 18
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#67
I just can't see discussions of growing poverty in America as a "waste of time."
mountain grammy
Mar 2018
#159
It is when there is no solution at the moment. There are lots of issues that are not voting issues
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#170
I don't trust facebook...and we need to be working towards as 50 state solution...I don't see the
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#176
really? Cuz this is what our politiicans, as they vote to deregulate the banks, sound like daily.
JCanete
Mar 2018
#121
You know I believe every single safe Democrat should face a primary after Trump is gone as a result
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#173
no, I'm done with that. not being "safe" is the cover our politicians and our party leaders use to
JCanete
Mar 2018
#177
You have to get elected...look do you really think at this moment we can get a Senate and a house
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#427
It is about getting elected but I looked at the bill and don't think it is that bad.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#451
Also, it will not help us fix these things if we don't talk about them. You cannot avoid these
JCanete
Mar 2018
#182
Candidates should discuss what works in their state or district ...stuff that helps get them
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#430
you can't govern on your message if you don't run on it. For that matter, it clearly
JCanete
Mar 2018
#438
People don't run on the entire Democratic platform...you run on what works...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#452
again, this cannot just be ignored by you....if the way you win is by not riling big money
JCanete
Mar 2018
#454
You have to win for power...I don't know what to say except...you can bring bills to the floor
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#471
It would have been less damaging for the Party had he run as an independent.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#68
I think that those who would have vote for Sen. Sanders voted for Jill Stein...we all know since
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#181
Winning the popular vote while satisfying has done nothing to negate the horrors of Trump...if I had
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#436
I didn't say we would have won in 16 had Sen. Sanders run as a independent . I said there would
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#180
You are kidding me right? I have seen the 16 primary refought in several elections...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#435
I wish it were so...I wish the divisiveness and bitterness of 16 were behind us but it is not.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#476
I have no idea what you mean. I believe the party would have been less damaged had Sen. Sanders run
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#432
It hurt the Democratic Party and if you spend any time here or on any social media, you see it.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#433
For years, voters have had to pick candidates they disagree with on numerous issues
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#310
"Anyone who knew anything about politics was screaming that she was a liability to the democratics"
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#321
Yes. I would rather he not have used the Democratic Party for money, attention, etc.
MrsCoffee
Mar 2018
#115
No it doesn't. It often shows up in elections...it showed up in Texas a week or so ago.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#439
I disagree with your opinion. Bernie caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate.
Bluepinky
Mar 2018
#291
Just like Democratic party members have welcomed Bernie to caucus with them.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#204
Yes...either way he worked hard to misdirect votes in the GE away from Dems
BoneyardDem
Mar 2018
#146
I don't hate anyone more than Trump. And I don't hate Sen. Sanders. I just don't think the stuff he
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#22
It's the economy, and how it's rigged to favor the rich. Let's keep focused!
DemocracyMouse
Mar 2018
#37
We know the ACA and health care is why we won PA 18...so that is what should be discussed.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#70
That is not a winning issue in moderate districts where folks are more concerned with
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#171
Jobs and healthcare are EXACTLY what Bernie Sanders has been talking about.They are pyramid flippers
DemocracyMouse
Mar 2018
#239
It is pertinent to talking about what actually ails us. Any democrats not talking about it
JCanete
Mar 2018
#123
It's not hatred, it's just wariness of a man who teamed up with people like Cornel West, who
DanTex
Mar 2018
#52
Note how he has to go back 16 years to the Iraq war, but he never talks about the real issues...
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#92
its useless if all they do is vote D. If that is going to be your rationale over issues,
JCanete
Mar 2018
#175
We agree, post primary vote D, assuming its still worth believing in something.
JCanete
Mar 2018
#267
and the most ignored. Climate Change is right up there too but even w/ all that, TRUMP
CousinIT
Mar 2018
#29
Human rights are totally at the mercy of the thieves pooling all the wealth + levers of power.
DemocracyMouse
Mar 2018
#126
Trump talked about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Bernie talked about the same with a deeper perspective.
DemocracyMouse
Mar 2018
#240
All candidates talk about jobs in every election...to compare Trump with Sanders is a disservice to
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#273
He partnered up with TYT? Didn't they get several million dollars from conservative republican....
George II
Mar 2018
#38
That's a LOT of money! At first glance it seems peculiar that it's coming from a Republican...
NurseJackie
Mar 2018
#57
wow....what a bad point. Come on George...fucking a. What does that even ammount to?
JCanete
Mar 2018
#133
I watched and it was a really good discussion about an overlooked issue with many
Nanjeanne
Mar 2018
#41
You watched all 90 minutes and felt that nothing discussed will help. Interesting opinion. Thanks
Nanjeanne
Mar 2018
#84
I read the transcripts...and I saw nothing I had not seen before or heard during the 16 primary.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#184
I read a great deal...I have ADD and could never sit though 90 minutes. I have been stessed about
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#444
There were about 450 in audience and about 100 in overflow so hard to judge audience
Nanjeanne
Mar 2018
#466
My feeling is that income inequality is consequence of bad policies in terms of taxing, health
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#470
I wonder the same thing. When you clearly state that you joined the Dem Party for "Money & Media",
Wwcd
Mar 2018
#139
He never had a real job until he was 40 years old. That is a well known fact
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#125
R U kidding? Since when do people vote for president because of their foreign policy bonafides?
progressoid
Mar 2018
#194
How about being the former director of the Arkansas Legal Aid Clinic? It's all matter
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#203
He did this in college-and then high-tailed it out of there and ran to the whitest state in the US
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#211
We have other Senators of pretty liberal states elected as "progressives", too.
George II
Mar 2018
#290
What should be a broken record is about our Dems voting to gut Frank Dodd. I still haven't
Autumn
Mar 2018
#154
I will never forget how Bernie Sanders spoke out against the Iraq War and voted against it.
Bluepinky
Mar 2018
#302
No, he wasn't. Sanders was a Congressman in 2001. He wasn't elected to the Senate until 2006
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#320
Well apparently none of that matters. Or even that the Dems gave him that position. Good thing DU
Nanjeanne
Mar 2018
#193
Love it! That's what Bernie does best! Showing, once again, why he's such a valuable asset.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#206
Bernie Sanders: Russia and Stormy Daniels distract us from real problem of inequality
Cha
Mar 2018
#247
Bernie Sanders: Russia and Stormy Daniels distract us from real problem of inequality
Cha
Mar 2018
#249
I have no reason at all to argue with you on that point because we can't even get
JCanete
Mar 2018
#347
This is THE issue for our times that Democrats are not addressing effectively.
alarimer
Mar 2018
#339
Well they can't if they want to get elected. Have you looked at the Senate map? This was not a bad
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#402
Not hardly but if he'd run 3rd party like Perot he might have done us some good.
ucrdem
Mar 2018
#355
That's a strange but interesting point. Now it would have damaged Sanders horribly and
JCanete
Mar 2018
#405
I don't think so...he might have taken more votes from Hillary...in would have in my
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#408
Nope...the votes were not there to become the nominee so how could he win a general?
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#404
Maybe, I am not an expert. But I keep thinking there is a reason, the GOP and it seems the Russians
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#415
It hasn't damaged the party. The damage done to the party is most significanlty
JCanete
Mar 2018
#421
There is an entire group out there who thinks Sen.Sanders was cheated out of the nomination.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#447
I read the transcript. I have ADD ...couldn't possibly have sat through that.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#416
My son sent it to me...he knows I have trouble with stuff like that...he loves Sen.Sanders.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#456
Does it include all the interviews with the guests or just the statements from Sanders, et al?
oberliner
Mar 2018
#457
I don't know if it has all the statements or not since I didn't watch it but it was quite long...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#459