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In reply to the discussion: Why does unconditional support of the D party bother some? [View all]Exotica
(1,461 posts)204. Yes it was. Someone alerted on a pro Sinema post. That is crazy as she
is the guaranteed Deocratic nominee and will be running against either a monster racist criminal (Arpaio), a Teabagger lunatic CT nutter (Kelli Ward) or a far right moving corporate Rethug (McSally).
Cannot believe there are so-called Democrats who hate Sinema so much they would prefer one of those 3 fuckers to win There is no other remotely viable Democrat in the primary, so to bash Sinema is to be pro Republican in true outcome.
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Why this straw man argument? That will never happen and that is not what the OP is about.
brush
Mar 2018
#140
Again with more distraction? Don't waste our time talking about those two repugs working for that...
brush
Mar 2018
#153
Because I have a brain, and I don't blindly accept what I'm told by anybody. NT
mahatmakanejeeves
Mar 2018
#4
Being able to do simple arithmetic doesn't make you good at math either.
Hassin Bin Sober
Mar 2018
#174
Math is not irrational. The premise of the OP is not rocket science. Vote Democratic and we are...
brush
Mar 2018
#141
True. So the one-step forward two-steps back repitition should make sense to math people as well.
KPN
Mar 2018
#161
It's not that complicated. Vote Democratic and we get control of at least one house of Congress...
brush
Mar 2018
#162
Come on. Get serious. Pedophiles, anti-Semites and racists would be weeded out by the primary...
brush
Mar 2018
#179
You're talking about unconditional support for anyone with a D after their name.
meadowlander
Mar 2018
#193
Give it up. I'm not biting on divisiveness. It's a simple concept. Vote Democratic to take back...
brush
Mar 2018
#207
Then why can't you figure it out for yourself. It's not that hard. Third Parties are for Chumps.
PubliusEnigma
Mar 2018
#85
Right...well since you have a brain...looking at the situation of the Democrats having no control,
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#96
Personally, I think it is a no brainer. But I also understand the view of people who don't vote
KPN
Mar 2018
#163
First of all what you talk about won't come fast...we need to fix the ACA first and offer
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#199
Some believe you shouldn't vote for a Democrat unless he is some sort of pure entity...this is what
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#183
Sounds reasonable...I want to run candidates that fit the district. or state.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#188
here is an example of me defending exactly that tailoring (Kyrsten Sinema for Senate in Arizona)
Exotica
Mar 2018
#189
I only vote for Democrats, don't miss an election, and I am critical of the the party and candiates
CentralMass
Mar 2018
#52
This sort of 'complexity' has caused multiple losses to the point we are on the cusp of an outcome
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#98
I am talking about State and Federal. In both cases, the party with ONE more seat than
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#18
I second that Peggsue...you would think people would see the danger...ah...I think some are part of
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#100
No, he's not anti-choice. His voting record is pro-choice. That makes him pro-choice.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#61
Unfortunately given the number of people who constantly BASH our candidates who claim
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#23
Persuaded? No, this site is for DEMOCRATS, there should not be a SINGLE person
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#26
Thanks , and it is of course not bullying unless your position is you dont really
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#35
Really...so because someone says we need to support Democrats...you perceive bullying?
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#101
Who cares about Bernie Sanders? He is in the Senate...not my Senator...and I don't always like his
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#172
What is the point? My point is some like him, some don't and others (like) me are indifferent and
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#192
It's called "Gaslighting". Russians and Republicans are masters of it. n/t
Decoy of Fenris
Mar 2018
#110
He is advocating voting for Democrats...on a Democratic site that should be a given...we support
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#95
And if you have to get one here and there who is personally against abortion but for the right of
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#34
I would merely point out that party loyalty has lead to important wins by Republicans and if we
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#104
I think we are on the same page...and I absolutely think the lack of party loyalty led to the
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#133
Sure, but let's avoid a primary like we see in WV...which serves no purpose
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#108
And win...what do you think will happen if we keep arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#130
Primaries often influence if we win or not...everything we do should be calculated to win...I
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#168
Let's part friends...we both want the same thing to get rid of GOP types ...and fascist Trump.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#177
Your love us or leave us posts are off-putting to those who like to think we make the best choices
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#54
OK... so you understand that someone who is anti-lgbt, anti-choice, anti-immigrant,
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#75
They will feel even more so...when they lose the House...yep...I think they will lose it!
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#184
yes you support them if they are running against a GOP ...we still get the majority
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#111
What the difference between "unconditional support" and "blind allegiance"?
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2018
#70
"If" is a conditional word. So, no, that's not "unconditional". (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2018
#122
I don't know. Why, what has that to do with "blind allegiance" or "unconditional support"? (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2018
#123
How is that related to any difference between "unconditional support" and "blind allegiance"? (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2018
#124
The point is the OP says "unconditional support" and "blind allegiance" are completely unrelated
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2018
#134
Ah...I see. Well just my two cents...I unconditionally (always) vote for the Democrat in the
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#138
I can see your personal position, though I'm not sure it is what the OP is about
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2018
#139
We're facing real & true fascists bent on destroying our cities, our country, and our world.
TheSmarterDog
Mar 2018
#81
Sure...and when we lose and can't recover because we are on the cusp of doing so...maybe you will
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#119
Because a party that gets nothing but unconditional support never gets any better.
Orsino
Mar 2018
#102
Sure supporting Democrats will of course never never get those things that you advocate (sarcasm).
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#120
If unconditional support means I can't bitch about the party then count me out.
CrispyQ
Mar 2018
#103
Yeah because telling others how awful the Democratic party is attracts new Democratic voters
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#121
Because I am a critical thinker, unlike many R voters that give unconditional support to their party
Freethinker65
Mar 2018
#107
Unconditional support of any political party is morally and intellectually reprehensible.
Decoy of Fenris
Mar 2018
#109
And if there are two dems running in my district and MY choice is far less likely to win than
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#137
Yeah, they congratulate themselves for not voting for this imperfect candidate or that imperfect
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#135
Surely "unconditional support for a political party" is "political orthodoxy"?
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2018
#142
Yep, some wish to reserve their right to HOLD their NOSES or WHINE about
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#156
I believe that VANITY and EGO are big motivators also. People like Sarandon (and others)...
NurseJackie
Mar 2018
#159
Heaven forbid some wish to reserve the right not to pretend every candidate with a following D...
Marengo
Mar 2018
#167
You mean like Joe Biden did? How about if they voted to continue funding the Iraq War?
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#182
I am assuming you probably voted for Kerry who voted for the Iraq war. And yes, you need to vote
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#198
No it doesn't...if kerry is candidate for example which he was you vote for him in the
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#211