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emulatorloo

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30. Manafort would be a fool to think Trump can save him with a pardon

Fri Feb 23, 2018, 08:48 PM

Feb 2018

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5/ Unless Paul Manafort really relishes the idea of dying in prison—as no legal experts see him having any hope of beating two separate federal felony cases (multiple counts in each case) in D.C. and Virginia—he has two options: (1) pray for a pardon or (2) flip on the president.

6/ None of the evidence in the Trump-Russia probe exculpates Trump—all of it either inculpates him (i.e., points toward him having criminal liability) or inculpates his aides and family. So Manafort would be a fool to think Trump will be in a position to pardon him down the line.

That full twitter thread is worth reading if you get a chance.

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I copy pasted an unrolled version of the thread here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210281665

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The new charges against Manafort seek asset forfeiture [View all] Dread Pirate Roberts Feb 2018 OP

He'll get 100% of the sanctions, guaranteeing that Manafort can't get predatory legal help Fluke a Snooker Feb 2018 #1

Memo to self: Never piss of Bob Mueller. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #4

I just hope he never has a reason to know my name. TNNurse Feb 2018 #22

Doesn't really affect him if he's spending his life in prison? bearsfootball516 Feb 2018 #2

Taking all of his stuff certainly affects him and his family Dread Pirate Roberts Feb 2018 #3

Bingo! And that's what Mueller wants. Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #8

Doesn't his wife get to keep her share? mchill Feb 2018 #26

Don't you think his wife knew what he was doing? mgardener Feb 2018 #37

One article says the wife will testify against him FakeNoose Feb 2018 #38

interesting that according to the heavy.com story, daughter Andrea has opposed Trump spooky3 Feb 2018 #50

Yes but not so unusual FakeNoose Feb 2018 #51

the one in the film industry is Jessica. Article referred to Andrea as making anti-Trump remarks. spooky3 Feb 2018 #56

Jessica may be an apple who didn't fall far from the tree: spooky3 Feb 2018 #58

On Edit#1 mchill Feb 2018 #52

I don't think we're seeing the whole story here FakeNoose Feb 2018 #54

I think he owns the nearly $2 mill. house in Arlington, VA, that his daughter lives in. spooky3 Feb 2018 #36

So his wife and daughter are attorneys and they did not know all these years? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #47

I think you're right. spooky3 Feb 2018 #49

Even if Trump pardon's him, he is left with nothing. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #43

Trump can't pardon him. They are co-conspirators. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #48

Good point. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #57

Any which way but loose. Sneederbunk Feb 2018 #5

When and if Manafort gets convicted in a court, quartz007 Feb 2018 #6

Manafort would be a fool to think Trump can save him with a pardon emulatorloo Feb 2018 #30

Thank you mgardener Feb 2018 #41

Thanks for the unrolled thread ggmac0427 Feb 2018 #60

Trump is a co-conspirator. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #53

The plot thickens! quartz007 Feb 2018 #62

When and if Manafort gets convicted in a court, quartz007 Feb 2018 #7

He could, but then they likely slam him with state charges, which aren't pardonable. bearsfootball516 Feb 2018 #9

He would still be compelled to testify, I believe. bettyellen Feb 2018 #14

See my post 30 above. He would be a fool to depend on a Trump pardon emulatorloo Feb 2018 #31

That it would make Trump look guilty as hell, for one thing jmowreader Feb 2018 #34

Pardons are usually issued at end of term quartz007 Feb 2018 #46

Remember all of these Assets Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #10

The lienholders will get paid from the proceeds Dread Pirate Roberts Feb 2018 #12

The kicker being the timleyness of the sale. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #19

so maybe state banks are used? bluestarone Feb 2018 #17

Wonder what his wife knows. Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #11

yea i wonder how much she knows? bluestarone Feb 2018 #18

I hope this means they will pull his broke ass into jail? Why wouldn't they, he has no collateral KewlKat Feb 2018 #13

You've got to believe that a greedy bastard like Manafort fears this Dread Pirate Roberts Feb 2018 #15

my hope too!!!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #16

Contrast This With The Gates Plea Deal..... Laxman Feb 2018 #20

Didn't he give his daughters $4m ? Will they go for that too ? OnDoutside Feb 2018 #21

This is excellent news as are the bits of info about Dana Rohrbacher (sp?) in Gates' plea deal blake2012 Feb 2018 #23

YES! Fuckin A!!!!! BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #24

You cannot pardon property. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2018 #25

Property is people too, my friend. klook Feb 2018 #35

somehow somewhere somehow fucking trump will buy up his property when the gvt auctions it off.... samnsara Feb 2018 #27

I'm guessing he has hundreds of millions stashed away overseas. AJT Feb 2018 #28

I suspect Mueller's next move may be to bring Manafort into custody as a flight risk emulatorloo Feb 2018 #33

Like that line in the movie The Jerk w/Steve Martin. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #29

Mueller's definitely putting the screws to him. How much longer is Manafort going to hold out? emulatorloo Feb 2018 #32

Asset forfeiture... ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2018 #39

so the people who sold real estate to manafort get to keep the inflated price they charged? Sunlei Feb 2018 #44

Republicans dropped Manafort into the trump campaign, that day long ago he fell from the sky! WHO? Sunlei Feb 2018 #40

Pootie wanted him - I'm sure of it FakeNoose Feb 2018 #55

Wow, just wow.....love it. Some coverage for the taxes on $30,000,000 he defrauded the gov't of. iluvtennis Feb 2018 #42

so i'm assuming the judge has to approve all this right? bluestarone Feb 2018 #45

A little musical interlude in honor of Mr. Manafort & Mr. Gates Dread Pirate Roberts Feb 2018 #59

Does he have any unencumbered asset? From the sounds of it, he and Gates were bilking banks Vinca Feb 2018 #61