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Cosmocat

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15. Either way

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:25 AM

Feb 2018

it was bullshit.

People need to WTF up to these quick moving tides of public opinion and know that most often they have malicious under pinnings, and most often lead to regrettable outcomes.

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White nationalists and Twitter bots fueled the war against Al Franken and the Democrats fell for it [View all] Soph0571 Feb 2018 OP

Denial is not just a river in Egypt... hlthe2b Feb 2018 #1

+ 1000 chuckstevens Feb 2018 #2

+1001 Baitball Blogger Feb 2018 #6

Post #116. "RawStory pulled the article because it contained bullshit." Hortensis Feb 2018 #120

Yes, binary / all-or-nothing / puristic thinking is fallacious thinking. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #3

It's co-conspirator? Roy Rolling Feb 2018 #27

And willingness to believe questionable allegations spooky3 Feb 2018 #48

EXACTLY! NT onlyadream Feb 2018 #65

Hear, hear!!! EffieBlack Feb 2018 #78

I know. ananda Feb 2018 #94

Agree+++ xxqqqzme Feb 2018 #119

This is Raw Story stealing content to generate hits to its ad-filled website oberliner Feb 2018 #4

These news "aggregators" get by with a lot ... I can't get your link to work, however... hlthe2b Feb 2018 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem Feb 2018 #7

The link doesn't seem to be clickable oberliner Feb 2018 #8

Try this link: hlthe2b Feb 2018 #10

Yep - I was about to post that as well! oberliner Feb 2018 #12

Didn't you post just a bit about Sen. Frankin? Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #43

Absolutely - even more than that oberliner Feb 2018 #57

lol you fell for IT ! stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #121

These two things can be true at the same time oberliner Feb 2018 #122

That article was posted on DU. demmiblue Feb 2018 #9

It was a legit op-ed but used nefariously oberliner Feb 2018 #14

Like hell it was n/t kcr Feb 2018 #75

NY Times' Michele Goldberg Editorial "Franken Must Go" on Nov 16th probably had more impact wishstar Feb 2018 #11

Either way Cosmocat Feb 2018 #15

That's what democracy and due process are supposed to do! Beartracks Feb 2018 #118

I had no idea Cillizza had written a piece about that dsc Feb 2018 #20

And they are immune to Russian influence? hexola Feb 2018 #37

democrats continue to ignore talk radio, which provides a huge part of the buzz and certainot Feb 2018 #47

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #59

You are right. Keep reminding us! n/t ms liberty Feb 2018 #98

Chris Cilizza? If he's considered an influential voice of Dems, we are in big trouble n/t kcr Feb 2018 #76

Totally agree. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #88

Remember when attacking Leeann Tweeden on DU was denounced ... EricMaundry Feb 2018 #13

Yep.. too bad rainlillie Feb 2018 #19

The Media never reported the relationship with Tweeden and Trump Jr and all the tweets hexola Feb 2018 #40

Russians... hexola Feb 2018 #41

Hers is the one complaint that seemed reasonable to me spooky3 Feb 2018 #54

Some of it was. And that's STILL worthy of denunciation. There was plenty RandomAccess Feb 2018 #70

I AM STILL FURIOUS OVER THIS....... a kennedy Feb 2018 #16

I am too. rainlillie Feb 2018 #18

Count me in!!! pazzyanne Feb 2018 #30

if democrats didn't routinely ignore talk radio they would have been able to associate it with certainot Feb 2018 #52

I knew it was bull$hit! rainlillie Feb 2018 #17

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She will not win the primary. tavernier Feb 2018 #29

Many were fooled DownriverDem Feb 2018 #21

He totally can never run again, which was their intention. lark Feb 2018 #24

Exactly! rainlillie Feb 2018 #26

lark, I respectfully blue-wave Feb 2018 #86

I wish you were right. lark Feb 2018 #89

K&R lark Feb 2018 #22

Shouldnt every campaign and elected official have someone to botcheck AllyCat Feb 2018 #28

I emailed everyone of the Democratic Senators, Chairman of the DNC, and the DSCC telling sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #31

Why Franken? Because he was the person among all the Democrats who knew how to enough Feb 2018 #32

Why Franken? Because he couldn't keep his hands to himself mythology Feb 2018 #35

"Due Process" certainly confirmed that. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 #38

Agree nt spooky3 Feb 2018 #56

so you fell for it ? stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #50

Many really don't like to admit when they're wrong. Even to themselves n/t kcr Feb 2018 #79

You believed stories from three trumpanzees wellst0nev0ter Feb 2018 #106

No, I support Al Franken kcr Feb 2018 #123

Ah sorry, I read your post wrong wellst0nev0ter Feb 2018 #129

Ironic. Franken himself apologized mythology Feb 2018 #125

The weaponizing of "apologies" kcr Feb 2018 #126

Anonymous "multiple" for the most part. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #51

right - bullshit nadine_mn Feb 2018 #62

Exactly pandr32 Feb 2018 #71

Well, evidently there are a few still around on DU! n/t Denzil_DC Feb 2018 #74

Not only did the accusers pretty much vanish, but... Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2018 #77

Correct pandr32 Feb 2018 #80

You are woefully uninformed. Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #83

Bring him back. zentrum Feb 2018 #33

It was a hit job, and we had inside help. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 #34

Yep. dalton99a Feb 2018 #69

Anomomous accusations and mostly right wing accusers Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #36

Maybe Tina Dupuy will return to DU and mountain grammy Feb 2018 #39

Seems Franken was to biggest to fall for it. He resigned. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #42

I think he saw it as a losing battle that would cause deepER divisions... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #46

I think he got railroaded. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #49

"We lost." NurseJackie Feb 2018 #55

Im still angry and disgusted about this as well. Bluepinky Feb 2018 #44

There you have it. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #53

What do you mean? Bluepinky Feb 2018 #64

He was in one of the greatest deliberative bodies in the world. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #68

No doubt those assholes Cernovich and Posobiec played a part in this. Initech Feb 2018 #45

The lesson we can learn from this and things like it is this: PatrickforO Feb 2018 #58

Were basic background checks done on accusers? suegeo Feb 2018 #60

She wanted to get her presidential opponent out of the way. WhiteTara Feb 2018 #61

Yes, it's like putting the "K.G." in KGB. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 #66

It was. He was definitely on his way to becoming WhiteTara Feb 2018 #67

We knew this as it happened - Hamilton 68 called it out as it was happening getagrip_already Feb 2018 #63

Here is an actual post from that time period, word for word. rzemanfl Feb 2018 #72

There are a BUNCH of russian trolls out there still trying to sow discord with Democrats. lancelyons Feb 2018 #73

Yup, the vast majority of Democratic Senators Progressive dog Feb 2018 #81

The GOP is too lazy to do their own ratfucking these days?? Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #82

We Dems want to be so pure that we might as well commit seppuku and be done with it Mountain Mule Feb 2018 #84

Well, duh! blue-wave Feb 2018 #85

That was worth repeating LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #92

Makes sense. I thought it was manipulation at the time. Seemed obvious to me. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #87

Wow - maybe Al should run again malaise Feb 2018 #90

Why did Al have to resign but the Senators give Tom Carper-DE a pass? madville Feb 2018 #91

Roger Stone should be packed in a hyperbaric chamber for the next 5 years annabanana Feb 2018 #93

I wouldn't even know what was on Twitter or Facebook madville Feb 2018 #95

I honestly think his decision to resign Mr.Bill Feb 2018 #96

Once Franken Lost The Useful Idiots wellst0nev0ter Feb 2018 #108

SOME "Democrats fell for it". SergeStorms Feb 2018 #97

Godsdammit, when are we going to learn to defend our own? Hekate Feb 2018 #99

I was forwarded that article multiple times. LisaM Feb 2018 #100

only STUPID people fell for it, and/or people who HATED Al Franken Skittles Feb 2018 #101

Like Al Franken himself? progressoid Feb 2018 #105

he left because he could not bear putting his family through it Skittles Feb 2018 #107

So what was he apologizing for then? progressoid Feb 2018 #110

APOLOGIZING SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH Skittles Feb 2018 #111

How? wellst0nev0ter Feb 2018 #109

there are apologists on DU for EVERYTHING Skittles Feb 2018 #112

Damned if he Do, Damned if he Don't wellst0nev0ter Feb 2018 #113

CORRECT Skittles Feb 2018 #114

I'm not an apologist for this. progressoid Feb 2018 #115

What a shock. NOne of us here had ANY idea that was happening. Duh. We were talking about it Amaryllis Feb 2018 #102

I know many Progressive women who are deeply resentful of Gillibrand... radhika Feb 2018 #103

count me in with those "Progressive women who are deeply resentful of Gillibrand" orleans Feb 2018 #117

Fuck those fucking fucks Blue Owl Feb 2018 #104

RawStory pulled the article because it contained bullshit. greyl Feb 2018 #116

Snopes is not entirely correct here, though. As usual. kcr Feb 2018 #124

Ooops. Looks like some people got duped on this story. Who would have thunk? NCTraveler Feb 2018 #127

I didn't believe it MFM008 Feb 2018 #128