'Out of Many, One.' The Democrats Had 5 Very Different Rebuttals for Donald Trump's SOTU

[JCanete]

137. If you are familiar with my posts, I try not to delve into the most divisive rhetoric of assigning

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agendas or attacking the character of the beloved public figures by people on this board, such as Clinton. I came on too strong with my criticism of Time and have tried to temper it without pretending I don't have justified misgivings. I did not myself call the OP a Koch lover, nor the magazine itself a Koch mouthpiece, although I'm certainly not going to pretend that that new association and all others relationships our media companies have with huge interests isn't a problem. It is a huge problem.

But acknowledging mistakes I've made at times(which I try to do when I come to realize them), can you really say that the vitriol we see on these boards that go directly to Sanders character is unifying?

yes, we both want Trump out for good. I both want him out and I don't want him to be replaced by a worse one in 4 to 8 years. Strategy when it comes to this can be debated. Philosophy can be debated. I don't think the democratic party's approach has worked for America, not because of democrats directly, but because it has continued to be a losing strategy overall which has empowered the GOP over and over. Keeping our Joe Manchins at the expense of watering down our message and making us easier pickings in the false equivocation wars and making it harder for us to put up a united front around certain significant causes has not done us any long term favors. That said, sure, if I'm in Manchins state and my primary choice is eliminated, I take him over a republican. But he doesn't need protection from the left...he needs pressure from it.


As to equity, Sanders has been in Washington for a long time. He's railed against a lot of things. Often times he's been the lone voice or one of few. Please understand that a Time article does not equity make. There are certain perspectives that no matter how important they may be, get entirely starved of oxygen. And no this isn't about any hero worship of Sanders. I could care less whether or not he himself were the one that was getting the attention. Its the consequences of legislation, the issues and the philosophies that have been underserved. Of course, its a valid rebuttal to say that they are simply losing in the court of public opinion and that's why they are underrepresented at newspapers and magazines, but how could they not lose when being so underrepresented?