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In reply to the discussion: Those taking a strict "no Dem must be primaried" position may have a point... [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)16. It's in reference to the power structure.
In any hierarchy, there are those at the top and those at the bottom.
In the Democratic Party hierarchy, at the moment, big donors, the party bureaucracy, those individuals in charge of official Dem campaign organizations, those on the DNC would be at the top and hold most of the power within the party.
The people I listed in the previous post often make up most of the people who go out and do the grunt work in Democratic campaign(I'd argue that you and I are among those people I listed), yet are generally disregarded by those I listed in the sentence before this.
The term "voices from below" doesn't refer to anyone's worth as a human being.
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Those taking a strict "no Dem must be primaried" position may have a point... [View all]
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
OP
your post brought to mind the announcement that Chelsey Manning was going to run in Maryland
hlthe2b
Jan 2018
#1
Is there any reason to assume we can ONLY take back Congress and make other gains...
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#4
As to Harris, you're talking there about the response people had to her from months back.
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#37
It sounded like you sort of tied me into people freaking out over the idea of Oprah running.
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#58
You do realize that the left has attacked every candidate you mentioned...none are good enough.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#64
I don't care who the candidates are. And I will vote for whoever emerges as the nominee.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#79
I think most of the push back over Oprah was because of inexperience, not "political purity".
annabanana
Jan 2018
#28
By saying no. We are not Republicans. We want a serious candidate...a qualified candidate.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#103
Yes there is every reason to believe the endless debate and bickering has cost us and will cost
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#62
Yes, I understand the intent, but we lose our democracy when elected officials
Irish_Dem
Jan 2018
#3
No one said do away with them...that is not the point...primarying sitting Dems this year is stupid.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#87
That is my point...these people fail to understand that the point of an election is to win...
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#140
I was thinking about what you said...and by God. The Democratic Party has been saved from corruption
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#102
We have almost lost our democracy by electing the GOP ...the money issue stems from United which
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#66
Women under 30, people of color under 30, the poor of all races and ages, rank-and-file labor,
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#13
There is a word...if you are working against Democrats...the word is Republican.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#88
Thank you Nurse Jackie. It's just a continuation of the usual divide & conquer tactics. I wish....
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2018
#81
Absolutely - we are the party of aligned, but different coalitions. That is our strength.
ehrnst
Jan 2018
#116
I am against all primaries of sitting Dems...just want to get that out there...it is a stupid waste
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#69
I suppose you would rather the GOP decides for us because that is what is happening and will
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#70
Yeah...so much better to lose the courts for a generation...primaries of Senator and House
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#104
you do understand we are talking about an unknown person spending big money to try to
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#71
In a perfect world that might be true...but a costly divisive primary as we may remember can
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#105
We have talked about this before. Don't hold your party 'accountable' this sort of thing has caused
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#61
No in red states...we need moderate candidates to take back the House and the Senate...
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#78
You can fire up the base all you want in a red state and will still lose...you have to tailer the
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#132
It is insulting and such talk is why we lose...and drive the voters we need away.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#89
It isn't true that Democrats don't stand with the working class...and that is not why we lost.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#137
No party ever made a comeback from a disappointing showing by saying "stay the course".
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#150
Sure they have... if the 16 election had little to do with issues you have discussed
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#151
Actually she pointed out that your "criticisms" were repetitive, old, unoriginal and without merit.
NurseJackie
Jan 2018
#100
Thanks for at least that explanation. But the ideas you list that way AREN'T "anti-Democratic"
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#125
No, it was the constant undermining of Democrats that saw 70,000-something people
R B Garr
Jan 2018
#154
And if I was undermining Democrats, rather than trying to elect more of them, I'd deserve that.
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#155
"There's no case for maintaining the Democratic status quo when it was that status quo that ...
betsuni
Jan 2018
#162
I don't want YOUR "attention". I just want you to stop following me around and heckling me
Ken Burch
Jan 2018
#168
The point of elections is to obtain power, not to send "accountability" messages
struggle4progress
Jan 2018
#108
I think an easy solution is for people to vote for the candidate in the primary who they support.
David__77
Jan 2018
#109
We are defending many more seats in the Senate than the GOP...thus it is a money issue...
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#139
I don't think they have a point at all. I think its terribly undemocratic, and the rationale is
JCanete
Jan 2018
#112
Primaries cost money. We need money to overcome a gerrymander and we have what three times as many
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#141
We are of the same mind. If we don't live in a state, we need to mind our own business.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#146
Guess I haven't been following this particular topic. I don't understand the objection to anyone
Vinca
Jan 2018
#119
I agree and write down the name of the candidate so you remember who in the age
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#153
Let's talk about holding Democrats "accountable" once they're actually in POWER.
pnwmom
Jan 2018
#159