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In reply to the discussion: Senator Gillibrand should be ashamed of railroading Senator Franken out of the Senate. [View all]PatSeg
(49,539 posts)36. This is not some old tired argument
An excellent progressive voice has been silenced and his career ruined for other people's political gain. It has set a precedent that is unhealthy and does not serve Democrats. Senator Franken deserves an apology and some members in the Senate need to do some serious soul searching.
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Senator Gillibrand should be ashamed of railroading Senator Franken out of the Senate. [View all]
madaboutharry
Dec 2017
OP
Forcing Franken to defend against sexual harassment/assault charges IS sticking up for women...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2017
#114
I have noticed that "logic" too. Circular, self serving, and analogoys to Trumpian...
Alice11111
Dec 2017
#234
Then hold them ALL responsible, Bernie & Elizabeth Warren too, not just Gillibrand..
whathehell
Dec 2017
#83
None of the Democrats (and for that matter non of the Republicans) threatened to expel him.
brooklynite
Dec 2017
#18
...and conversely would have voted to seat Roy Moore (another story I've heard here)?
brooklynite
Dec 2017
#24
When Senator Gillibrand introduced the Military Justice and Improvement Act...
brooklynite
Dec 2017
#7
Silens doesn't indicate support. The only person who called on Franken to stay was Joe Manchin...
brooklynite
Dec 2017
#97
Some here (not me!) consider ALL Democrats to be progressives, so maybe he will "go over well"
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2017
#124
I am deeply disappointed in Sen. Gillibrand. I was excited back in 2009 when she got the appointment
StevieM
Dec 2017
#243
It's absurdly fascinating you consistently bring up arguments no one else has made to argue against.
LanternWaste
Dec 2017
#16
I'd say both. Her gulibility in falling for the repug hit job stymied her ambition for...
brush
Dec 2017
#49
What's wrong with presidential ambition? That's not a problem as far as I'm concerned.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2017
#121
That's a decent tip, just not universally true, like most things in life.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2017
#130
Would love it if Franken moved to New York and ran for her Senate seat there...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2017
#134
She can forget as far as a presidential run. Who wants a candidate who turns on fellow Dems?
brush
Dec 2017
#35
One senator? You think the repugs will stop now that they know their hit jobs can work?
brush
Dec 2017
#59
You don't call an investigation into allegations justified? And I'm not gullible enough to think...
brush
Dec 2017
#68
Such BS. A senate ethics investigation functions as due process for accused senators.
brush
Dec 2017
#72
And another thing, one senate vote can swing a bill either way, and Franken's seat will now...
brush
Dec 2017
#120
Different, but I doubt bigger if trump can be stopped in the Senate. It's a fight on all fronts.
brush
Dec 2017
#147
Still not getting it. Dems helping throw out their own opened the gates to more repug hit jobs.
brush
Dec 2017
#186
Not getting it again. It's not over one senator. It's the railroading of due process...
brush
Dec 2017
#238
That ridiculous argument again? You've already been schooled here on that yet you still...
brush
Dec 2017
#240
Like I said, you were schooled on that before. Ethics investigations are the Senate's due process
brush
Dec 2017
#245
Never schooled. An ethics investigations is a legal process, not a political consideration.
Trumpocalypse
Jan 2018
#246
Due process is a concept of arriving at justice and fairness, not just a legal definition.
brush
Jan 2018
#248
funny, I'd say he was denied due process by his impatient, alleged colleagues so anxious...
brush
Dec 2017
#123
It takes a while for deep wounds to heal. It is best not to let them get infected and have to start
JimBeard
Dec 2017
#93
There has to be a special election in 2018, just as there was for Sessions' seat in Alabama.
brush
Dec 2017
#55
I'm referring to Franken's seat. The repugs are already lining up for the special election.
brush
Dec 2017
#48
When someone starts an avalanche you dont share the blame with then rocks.
Exultant Democracy
Dec 2017
#60
That's pathetic. Blame the senators with decades of experience, not the first-termer.
yardwork
Dec 2017
#87
I see countless posts about how Dems "can do nothing right now!". So if they can do nothing...
BamaRefugee
Dec 2017
#38
But an awful lot of the OTHER Dem Senators aren't making much of a party, either.
FiveGoodMen
Dec 2017
#51
However you feel about it, she certainly made herself a divisive figure
BeyondGeography
Dec 2017
#62
I won't vote for any in a presidential primary who were involved with this...no one...the
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#65
farenthold is going nowhere....claims he won't run next year, but i don't believe a word said
spanone
Dec 2017
#75
Is hoping Hillary primaries her sexist??? Too many people are playing the sexist card! Sen. Collins
FreeStateDemocrat
Dec 2017
#84
I'm upset with leadership because they did NOTHING to address how the majority of the base feels
flamingdem
Dec 2017
#89
True. How can we win if we keep "firing" our attack dogs and those who show leadership...
Honeycombe8
Dec 2017
#155
If she is primaried, I will donate to her challenger. I will not forgive or forget. n/t
rainin
Dec 2017
#179
Gillibrand is dead to me. I don't care what she wants to do in politics . . .
MrModerate
Dec 2017
#184
Minnesota may not want to give up Al. He is a political treasure in the current environment.
democratisphere
Dec 2017
#212
Senator Gillbrand when asked if her good friend Anthony Weiner should stay in the NYC Mayoral race.
CentralMass
Jan 2018
#253