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Social dynamics between police, Black Americans and white vigilantes (incredible Twitter thread)


I believe we are seeing a changing of the guard so to speak

As whites slowly become a minority of sorts, in population, if not money and power, the edge in money and power is slowly being lost. This seems to drive some white folks crazy. It drives others who accept Whiteness as a standard crazy. We’ve never had to confront the actual repercussions of the erosion Whiteness as the dominant cultural standard. Some of us are uneasy—we were always so GOOD at cultural appropriation, we took credit where it was by no means due. We’ve done this for centuries. We’ve led the way in modern times anyway, when another culture has something interesting or attractive or genius, we created the culture of cultural theft.

And, to coin a phrase, time is up.

So much of what the right is, is reactive—anger and fear. Trump is everything diseased and damaged about Whiteness (which, so there is no mistake, does not mean white people as a whole, I know many of us are great people. I hate that I have to qualify this though, because people will misunderstand what Whiteness is, or think it merely an acedemic exercise) and about patriarchy.

Such bitter, angry, violent reactions everywhere. Trumps election even being possible . A powerful woman as a perennial scapegoat, the whole idea of libertarianism. The resurgence of the “alt-right” —a number of who started with Men’s Rights Activism fuckery. Men’s Rights Activism fuckery becoming almost mainstream—not quite, but too close. All that anger directed toward people with non-white skin and non-compliant women.

Still. Time is up.

Anti-whiteness, as it is dominant paradigm in power structures

Is not a bad thing to be. White peoples feelings get hurt over this because they tend to not examine the power structure of whiteness—that’s why all the angst and re-examining Trump voters. It’s not that BEING white is bad, it’s the blind thievery of the white and privileged—which is always on display. We just don’t look.

No. Its being sorely tested

And we are going to lose some battles. Important ones. Democracy will survive, because it is by and large very successful. It’s not perfect, and some of the imperfections led us to where we are right now, but it’s not dying. In fact, unless I miss my guess, it’s spreading across the world, Democratic principles of freedom and human rights are if nothing else becoming a seed of knowledge in those places without it.

I’m a fan of cyberpunk. It’s the one genre that can paint a fairly accurate picture of what happens when Democracy is replaced or subverted by corporate control.

This has happened, to a certain degree. But Democracy comes roaring back, because it’s an ideology that says you, the individual are also important, you have a say (vote) in what happens next. You can participate. You can be heard. You can be a change agent,

Trump is clearly not a fan Of Democracy. Republican are on a collusion course with it, but I refuse to believe that either is stronger than the idea of Democracy. Ultimately they are going to lose, and they are going to lose ugly. And it will serve them right, because while Trump may be a incurious man with limited reasoning skills, many of the The Republicans who have hitched themselves to his train—all in hopes of shrinking government— are not stupid. They are caught up in a dying patriarchal culture in the midst of an information revolution. They have no bend, and therefore will break.

Well Im not done

While I wish Franken would have let this go to investigation, perhaps there is a reason he didn’t that we don’t know. Two of the Senators calling for his resignation Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell are my senators from Washington state and I’m certainly not abandoning them. I’ve read their statements. I know their work, and I guarantee the Democratic Party needs them right where they are. If people are going to leave, I hope they do it soon.

I expected something like this to happen the moment #metoo became a hashtag. That we equivocate the moment a movement becomes challenging is to be expected. Franken took a fall in an atmophere attempting to call attention to a problem of behavior while simultaneously setting standards to behavior that has been present for millennia—not just decades. This isn’t new, this is ancient. (That’s not to say people haven’t “evolved”—they have) Franken, whatever the truth of extent of his behavior, did the right things, requested an inquiry, apologized, reisigned when his peers, many his FRIENDS asked him to. (Unless he’s playing a larger game, sacrificing himself in a very bold political move, which I wouldn’t put past him) even his resignation speech cannot be ignored for its political power.

So no, I’m not done. I do wish the resignation of Conyers brought about as much angst. But of course it didn’t

Conservative Women Keep Turning The Feminism Thing On And Off, Cant Get It To Work!

Had Bristol taken a moment to Google, she would have discovered that the entire first two pages of results on this came from Jezebel, The Daily Beast, ThinkProgress, Crooks & Liars, Media Matters, Huffington Post, NPR etc. She may have also noticed the dearth of conservative sites covering it.

(For what it is worth, Bristol — should you want to lead a campaign to get Chris Wallace fired for those comments, I would be right behind you. I would absolutely support you in any way I could, as would many other women on the Left. But why is it that we’re supposed to do all of this ourselves? Could you maybe help a little, or are you just here to stand over our shoulders and point out when we’ve missed a spot?)

Bristol Palin and Kellyanne Conway are far from alone when it comes to conservative women claiming that feminists only care when women on the left are sexually assaulted or harassed or experience sexism. Yet, if we look at the coverage of Gretchen Carlson and Megyn Kelly’s accusations against Roger Ailes, or at the accusations by a female conservative radio host against formerly beloved liberal icon Al Franken, that is demonstrably untrue. Even going back to the 2008 election, feminists who hated Sarah Palin and all she stood for were still calling out sexist bullshit against her — perhaps most notably, at the Sarah Palin Sexism Watches at both Shakesville and Feministing.

When Sarah Palin was asked about what she thought of Bill O’Reilly’s firing from Fox News, she said that the onus was on women to just “not take a paycheck” if they are being harassed.

“Corporate culture there obviously has to change. Women don’t deserve it, they should not ever have to put up with any kind of intimidating workspace. At the same time, if a woman believes she is being intimidated and harassed, she needs to stand up and do something about it, not stick around for a paycheck for years and years and years and then after the fact complain about what she went through.”

Read more at https://wonkette.com/626697/conservative-women-keep-turning-the-feminism-thing-on-and-off-cant-get-it-to-work#hMXhuz0Ie0UgeP61.99

Many of them are not stupid

They are bigoted, and occasionally honestly ignorant. They have access to the same information I do.

I come from bigoted, ignorant people, and I learned. Interestingly, it was 1974, at the start of middle school when “forced busing” happened, when I was brought into contact with African American children for the first time, (and no, we didn’t become instant friends, segregation had powerful roots in our psyche’s) and the school curriculum including “black history”, when I, a voracious reader, read books on Harriet Tubman and the Underground Railroad, and Sojourer Truth, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, Black like Me, The Diary Of Anne Frank—-oh so many books available. And because I was NOT stupid, I processed that information in the way it was intended, got in huge fights with my parents who would make me cry on purpose by saying words like “Jigaboo”, and tell me blacks were good at sports because they ran through the jungle—saying These things when I was learning about the ancient African Dynasties and things like the Library of Alexandra—all because they were afraid I would find a black boyfriend. (The “N” word was de rigueur around my house since I could remember, except from my Swedish grandparents, who had a softer bigotry)

Those people are me. I know them. I understand them. They don’t get a pass from me because if I know better, and I hope, continue to learn better, all it takes from them is willingness. They are not willing.

What the fuck

You are assuming women have more power than we do.

I went to party—not to get laid. No matter what I wore, or how I danced. There were ALWAYS guys that wanted to obscure the line between flirting and sexual assault. Flirting is fun, and is a way to gauge response “does he/she like me? Fun, and acceptable.

My own father “grabbed my butt”—he thought it was funny when I’d get angry. What do you suggest I did back then? Oh, that’s right, I was under age. I should have called the cops, right? Boy, I fucked that up, Didn’t I. Maybe I shouldn’t have run away and hit the streets and learned entirely new set of survival skills.

You are aware that women can’t leave their drinks unattended? That’s the self protective culture that has arisen. We carry our keys in our hands walking to the door, we get escorts, we get dogs, we get security systems, we take self defense courses we get weapons. If we work in a strip clubs, there are always bouncers for protection against men. If we prostitute on the streets we are forgotten and unnamed, and the crimes against us ignored. If we are ambitious in the business world, we run into sexual pro quid pro situation for sexual favors. We are touched, brushed against, grabbed, leaned over, threatened. Assaulted

As I type this, there is a woman feeling terrified and helpless because she doesn’t know what to do. Her boss just shoved his tongue down her throat and she’s terrified of losing her job, she’s not interested in him that way. Nothing to do with clubbing and everything to do with our culture.

You know what Julian Assange is accused of? After having consensual sex with women, they awoke to find him at it again, inside them, without a condom—with no consent asked or given. And He would walk in an American court. Swedish law is quite different.

A woman alone is always in danger because she a woman alone. We are always frightened. Not the mind numbing kind of fear, the look over your shoulder kind, because a stalker or an assault is always a possibility.

I’m sick of women HAVING to be “on-guard” because hooking up in some—not all but some minds is a predator/prey situation

And then there this—a real attitude that I’ve seen here recently as yesterday to discredit the stories of women

Donna Brazile: I considered replacing Clinton with Biden as 2016 Democratic nominee

Well Well. Digging that hole deeper

Former Democratic National Committee head Donna Brazile writes in a new book that she seriously contemplated replacing Hillary Clinton as the party’s 2016 presidential nominee with then-Vice President Biden in the aftermath of Clinton’s fainting spell, in part because Clinton’s campaign was “anemic” and had taken on “the odor of failure.”

In an explosive new memoir, Brazile details widespread dysfunction and dissension throughout the Democratic Party, including secret deliberations over using her powers as interim DNC chair to initiate the removal of Clinton and running mate Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.) from the ticket after Clinton’s Sept. 11, 2016, collapse in New York City.

Brazile writes that she considered a dozen combinations to replace the nominees and settled on Biden and Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.), the duo she felt most certain would win over enough working-class voters to defeat Republican Donald Trump. But then, she writes, “I thought of Hillary, and all the women in the country who were so proud of and excited about her. I could not do this to them.”

Brazile paints a scathing portrait of Clinton as a well-intentioned, historic candidate whose campaign was badly mismanaged, took minority constituencies for granted and made blunders with “stiff” and “stupid” messages. The campaign was so lacking in passion for the candidate, she writes, that its New York headquarters felt like a sterile hospital ward where “someone had died.”


Poised for West Coast Dominance, Democrats Eye Grand Agenda

Sharon Nelson, the Democratic leader in the Washington State Senate, conveyed the party’s grand aspirations in an almost Trump-like phrase: “A blue wall,” Ms. Nelson enthused, “from the Canadian border to the Mexican border.”

Leading in the polls and anticipating victory, Democrats have sketched an aggressive agenda on issues where strong consensus appears to exist in the party, including new laws on gun control, contraception and environmental regulation. Ms. Nelson said she had met with the speaker of the Oregon Statehouse about enacting policy across state lines. The three states’ Democratic governors have spoken regularly about policy collaboration, and over the summer began coordinated talks on climate change with foreign heads of state.
Most ambitious of all, Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat, harbors dreams of enacting a muscular carbon pricing plan along with California, Oregon and officials in Canada. In an interview, Mr. Inslee said the special election in Eastside Seattle could open the way for broad action, including taxing carbon but also joint initiatives on energy efficiency, research and clean water.

“We intend to make a full-scale effort in the next session of the legislature if we win,” he said. “It will be a bell in the night, showing hope for the country, rejecting the Trump agenda of denying climate science.”

A coastal alliance, Mr. Inslee added, especially at a time when cities such as Seattle and Portland, Ore., and throughout California are booming economically, would help make the case to a national audience that addressing climate change through energy policy is good for business and job creation.

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