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woo me with science's JournalThird Way = Wall Street infiltration of the party
I am trashing this thread. It is a Wall Street/Third Way talking point. I recommend others do the same: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025767160
Let's get this straight. Neither the corporate Democrats' prominence in the party nor the constant propaganda on behalf of them was EVER a grass roots phenomenon.
The Third Way is and has always been a corporate-designed, corporate-bankrolled, deliberate infiltration of the party with the goal of transferring the party's representation and policy agenda from the people to corporate interests. They are working *against* the people. And the recent election results show that the people are waking up to that.
What a twisted, insulting talking point. We are supposed to feel sorry for expelling corporate infiltrators. This talking point is as offensive as when the Third Way tried to make everybody feel sorry for bankers when OWS was finally bringing attention to the crimes of the mortgage crisis.
When the DLC connections to the Koch Bros. became well known, they just rebranded the infiltration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4165556
When you hear "Third Way", think INVESTMENT BANKERS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024127432
GOP Donors and K Street Fuel Third Way’s Advice for the Democratic Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101680116
The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414
Same companies behind the GOP are behind the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1481121
IMO this is why they want to run Hillary.
They need time to rehabilitate the Dem Party, and the best way is to have a Republican in office for awhile so they can play passionate (yet somehow still ineffective) opposition party.
I remember my manipulation detector going off like crazy a few months ago when the MSM started publicizing all those stories about Hillary's "gaffes" comparing herself to poor people. And we are still seeing an unusual amount of commentary in the media about her flagrant saying one thing to one group and the opposite to another.
I think the PTB plan for her to lose. IMO, the biggest mistake we make is in assuming that these politicians, bought and paid for by the same corporate interests, have the same loyalties to party that they breed in us. I think we've entered a post- partisan, post-Democratic era of governing in which the parties are quietly working together behind the scenes to guarantee election for whichever side can best continue the corporate agenda.
I agree strongly overall but would rephrase a bit.
I would say the Third Way is a group of CORPORATISTS. Yes, it is a creation of Wall Street. We tend to equate Republicans and corporatists because the Republican Party was infiltrated by Wall Street first and has been working for corporate interests for a long time.
But the truth is that traditional Republicanism was corrupted by the corporate monsters just as much as the Democratic Party is being corrupted now. The corporatists lie to Republicans as much as they lie to us. Just as our corporate politicians lie to us about wanting to protect public education, social justice and the social safety nets, unions, and the environment, their politicians lie to them about wanting to stand for small government, limited government interference in private lives, and the defense of civil liberties. Yet no matter which party is elected, we get the same corporate monster agenda of larger, more oppressive and authoritarian government, assaults on and privatization of public services, and more warmongering.
Every poll shows that Republicans are just as angry about what is being done to this country as we are. We drown in corporate propaganda to make us hate and blame each other so we won't realize that that we are ALL victims and so we won't unite to demand our representation back. They want it to be more viscerally repulsive to us to ever think about uniting with a Republican on ANYTHING, even than to defend our Bill of Rights and our democratic representation. Even though we keep getting the same suicidal, predatory agenda under both parties, we are to circle the wagons when it's our guy in office.
I think being clear that corporatists are the enemy is important because we have got to break the con game of hyperpartisanship they use to keep us divided, and teach ALL Americans that we have a stake in getting corporate money out of government. The truth is that we can beat traditional Republicans at the ballot box. But right now, we don't even get the chance to do that. The system has been purchased by Wall street, and they aren't running traditional Republicans *or* traditional Democrats for office anymore. They are running corporatists on both sides.
We need to become the 99 percent to take our representation back. We don't have to agree on everything. Just that our representation has been stolen from ALL of us by corporate corruption of our government and elections. And that we demand corporate money and power out of government and the political system so we can have our representation back.
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+10000 The longer and more closely you watch the game,
the more obvious it becomes.
I've watched quite a few people's eyes open to the con game once they realize they can predict the outcome of any political battle in which the One Percent have an important stake. The One Percent always win. Always. It doesn't always appear that way at first, because the con game and the spin are slick. But the overall movement is always in a direction that favors the oligarchs.
Case in point: the whole budget ceiling crisis con. The corporate spin was that the president "saved" Social Security. Now that's an absurdly audacious spin to *begin* with, given that the president was the one who put SS on the table in the first place. But even beyond that,
When you look at the entire process and how it unfolded, what you see are two parties working together to orchestrate a process in which the only possible outcomes were (1) more austerity than even Paul Ryan wanted initially or (2) even more austerity than that.
The important take-home message here is not that Eric Holder is a scumbag.
It is that both parties are working for Wall Street.
Third Way talking points will try to make it all about individuals, but the point here is that our government has changed. We are in a post-democratic, post-partisan era of government (despite all theater and propaganda to the contrary) in which both parties have been corrupted by Wall Street money and are quietly working together behind the scenes to advance Wall Street's agenda.
The real political game is not what they tell us it is. Red versus Blue is a distraction, tool, and a manipulation. They depend on us to trust in a system that doesn't exist anymore.
We need to unite on policy, not party.
Yup. EVERYONE, READ THE ARTICLE. SEND IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
Both parties work for these criminals.
The real groundbreaking realization we all need to come to, as a nation, is that the parties are purchased and working together now for corporate interests.
Red versus Blue is a con game. Corporatists depend on our not realizing that the political game has changed, and that party loyalty is a distraction. We need to unite on ISSUES and POLICY, not party, and get the corporate corruption out of government.
I think these Taibbi threads, and this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025776260
are the most important on DU right now, because they show that we are dealing with an entirely different political game than the propaganda tells us we are.
Thank you. Third Way=Wall Street infiltration of the Democratic Party.
Neither the corporate Democrats' prominence in the party nor the constant propaganda on behalf of them was EVER a grass roots phenomenon.
They are a corporate-bankrolled, deliberate infiltration of the party with the goal of transferring the party's representation and policy agenda from the people to corporate interests.
When the DLC connections to the Koch Bros. became well known, they just rebranded the infiltration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4165556
When you hear "Third Way", think INVESTMENT BANKERS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024127432
GOP Donors and K Street Fuel Third Way’s Advice for the Democratic Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101680116
The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414
Same companies behind the GOP are behind the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1481121
They are constantly refining the system, aren't they.
I didn't realize that about California. Very slimy.
Nobody ever questioned the remarkable bipartisanship the two corporate parties showed after Ross Perot's surprising success (compared to previous independent runs) in restructuring the system to make sure that never happened again.
I think this is the most important thread on DU right now,
in tandem with Taibbi's new piece, which illustrates the corruption so clearly:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025776332
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025776300
This thread is so important not because of the observation about Obama personally, but because of the clear message about how the entire structure of politics has changed in this country: that the parties are working together and we'd better start realizing that and responding accordingly.
The game they are playing is not the game we are told they are playing.
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