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keithbvadu2
(39,198 posts)Trump's republicans agree with the idea of killing more Jews.
David__77
(23,863 posts)Unsurprising production.
stopdiggin
(12,448 posts)That is NOT the way 'talks' and/or negotiations work.
A 'proposal' that one or both sides rejects is - nothing more than a talking point or a rough draft. Egypt and Qatar are offering a framework and suggesting possibilities. They don't have the authority to offer 'proposals'.
David__77
(23,863 posts)Therefore there have been zero proposals thus far by any side.
stopdiggin
(12,448 posts)this is all shuck and jive. I don't chose to play the endless mind games of Hamas. And a lot of other people are questioning this storyline too. Significantly because - no more than 24 hours earlier, both sides were announcing the talks had stalled.
As recently as 1 day ago it was 'no deal'. (with Hamas representatives leaving the table, and Hamas rockets raining down on proposed aid crossings). Israel starts it's promised move on Rafah - and within hours it's, "Oh, we agreed to the plan!" Yeah, right! Sure you did! Except - that's not what Haniyeh was saying on Sunday! (if that is accepted to mean anything at all)
- snip - Both Israel and Hamas portray the other as intransigent but both are under pressure to agree a ceasefire.
Ismail Haniyeh, Hamass most senior political leader, said on Sunday the militant group was keen on reaching a comprehensive ceasefire that will end Israeli aggression, guarantee Israels withdrawal from Gaza and achieve a serious hostage-swap deal.
In his statement Haniyeh blamed Netanyahu for sabotaging the efforts made through the mediators and various parties.
- - The Guardian, May 5th 2024 - -
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/05/israel-tells-hamas-to-accept-ceasefire-terms-or-risk-new-onslaught-in-near-future
no_hypocrisy
(48,127 posts)total capitulation and surrender by Hamas, and ceding Gaza to Israel.