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Celerity

(44,469 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:59 PM Apr 2019

LOL at MSNBC trying to bait Buttigieg and others into endorsing all INCARCERATED felons being given

the right to vote.



Fucking numpty rotters try to truly stir the shit, draw out a massive losing stance, AND carrying water for the Sanderites.

Steve Kornacki can fuck right off.


On edit, the ONLY reason I used the terms Sanderites in this post is that that was the driving force behind the entire segment, the panel was scolding Buttigieg and others for not living up to Bernie's stance. I find that fair game to call out. I am not taking a gratuitous potshot at his DU supporters.

Just wanted to clear that up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Roy Rolling

(6,982 posts)
1. Settle Down, Beavis
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:03 PM
Apr 2019

Now make the point without slamming Sanders unjustifiably.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,948 posts)
2. Has anyone asked Bernie if he thinks convicted child molesters serving prison terms should vote?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:07 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

IndyOp

(15,547 posts)
5. My understanding of Sander's position is
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:18 PM
Apr 2019

that ALL citizens over the age of 18 have a right to vote.

I am not sure I agree with him, while in jail it may be appropriate to lose that right like other rights are lost - freedom to go where you want, etc.

Then again, barring any citizens from voting leaves racist Republicans a way of cutting off rights to “some” citizens. In some states, jail time means losing the right to vote for the rest of your life, other states block the while in jail and on probation only. Racist states limit rights if at all possible and Sanders does not want to leave wiggle room for denial of rights for anyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
15. He thinks terrorists should vote so why not
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:57 PM
Apr 2019

They kill kids.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Chin music

(23,299 posts)
4. This is why continual politic'ing is a bad idea.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:12 PM
Apr 2019

At some point the populace is supposed to go back to their lives. Content that the people we voted in are going to represent us...you know...so we can enjoy our OWN prosperity and life under the Stars and Bars. If we are going to do all the thinking, and leg work, and brain-busting of ideas, who needs representatives who can sell themselves out?
We choose the people. THEY decide some things. Use your best judgement _____(insert any DEMOCRAT here.)
Not our job to answer every question, theirs either.
Our job is to vote, and protest if called to. And be good people. End of story. Even if a murderer votes...the murderers vote next to him can cancel it out. And from what Ive seen, there are some wrongly convicted murderers in our system. Just as an aside. If the wrongly accused do get released, maybe it's not the most Ghandi-esque of things, to have destroyed his/her life while they fought for theirs. (?) Just thinking out loud.
Sounds like another version of....Dems are for Open Borders. It's patently ridiculous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(44,469 posts)
6. Prison is not a 'free' environment, EVERYTHING has a cost
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:21 PM
Apr 2019

The coercion to vote one way or another (especially pressure from the organised neo-nazi gangs) will be immense.

Prison is removal from mainstream society. One of those rights you forfeit (besides your freedom) is the right to interact with society in general, include the franchise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Chin music

(23,299 posts)
10. I guess I didnt think of that. But, How would they know?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:58 PM
Apr 2019

I mean, how does anyone know how anyone voted unless youre a gop'er 'on the take'. Not like the Warden gets everyone in the gym and gets votes by raised hands..yet. I think it's an inalienable right myself. but, I'm just one person. people feel strongly about it. there ARE wrongly accused.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sop

(10,580 posts)
7. Are prisoners actually demanding the right to vote?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:45 PM
Apr 2019

Or is this just another phony wedge issue, concocted to gin up outrage on both sides?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(44,469 posts)
8. some are I guess, BUT yes, a lot of it is 'gin up a wedge issue' shite by the MSM also, IMHO
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:50 PM
Apr 2019
https://truthout.org/audio/why-prison-strikers-are-demanding-the-right-to-vote/

My parents say I am the most cynical 23 year old on the planet!

LOL

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,703 posts)
9. This is Nothing but a Trick Questions Designed to Paint Dems as Being Out of the Mainstream.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:53 PM
Apr 2019

Dem Candidates Need to Say They're Busy Trying to Protect the Vote for Folks Who Aren't Incarcerated to spend time worrying about ballot access for people in prison. Anyone who supports this idea is pandering to whatever slim slice of the electorate who sees this as a problem that needs to be fixed now. I don't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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peggysue2

(10,945 posts)
13. Yes, Yes & Yes!
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:36 PM
Apr 2019

In addition to protecting the vote for folks not incarcerated, we're also trying to protect the country from a wanna-be dictator and fascist takeover. The Republic, The Rule of Law is hanging in the balance. We cannot afford to blow it with nonsensical positions that will be used to beat the Democratic Party and its ultimate nominee over the head in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sop

(10,580 posts)
16. Yeah, Democrats need to focus on GOP voter suppression schemes, not this stuff
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:06 PM
Apr 2019

Florida voters approved a constitutional initiative last November restoring voting rights to 1.4 million ex-felons, 64.55% to 35.45%. It would have restored the vote to ex-felons upon completion of their sentences, including prison, parole, and probation, except those convicted of murder or a felony sexual offense. Then Florida House Republicans passed a bill requiring ex-felons pay old court costs before having their voting rights restored.

Even though the initiative passed by a margin of 30 points, Republicans are doing everything they can to prevent ex-felons from voting. What realistic chance does a law allowing prisoners to vote while serving sentences have of passage? Yet certain people toss this stuff out there so liberals will take the bait, waste time arguing about it and look like fools.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
11. Pete won't be baited that easily
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:01 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

oasis

(49,930 posts)
12. GOP eager to turn up the volume: "Democrats Soft On Crime".
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:09 PM
Apr 2019

It's a losing issue at a time we need to EMPHASIZE! our support on winning issues only.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
14. This is why it's bad to try to differentiate yourself...
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:40 PM
Apr 2019

On one part of a comprehensive issue while not actually addressing the comprehensive issue.

It’s just Sanders throwing out red meat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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