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Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:59 PM

 

I don't care about anything but beating Trump.

This is no time for progressive puritanism.

Our entire democracy is at risk.

We have a president who wants to throw out the U.S. Constitution and install a fascist dictatorship.

Don't doubt it for a second.

I don't yet know who I will vote for in the Florida Democratic primary, but it will be for whoever at the time looks like they are most likely to beat Trump.

That is literally all I care about.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Reply I don't care about anything but beating Trump. (Original post)
Vidal Apr 2019 OP
CountAllVotes Apr 2019 #1
Left-over Apr 2019 #15
CountAllVotes Apr 2019 #18
Lifelong Protester Apr 2019 #2
Irishxs Apr 2019 #3
MH1 Apr 2019 #4
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #5
BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #6
unitedwethrive Apr 2019 #7
Duppers Apr 2019 #8
MelissaB Apr 2019 #9
My Name is Url Apr 2019 #10
CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #11
oldlibdem Apr 2019 #12
DownriverDem Apr 2019 #13
TryLogic Apr 2019 #14
marylandblue Apr 2019 #16
Locrian Apr 2019 #19
DCofVA Apr 2019 #17
Cha Apr 2019 #29
BootinUp Apr 2019 #20
Jimbo S Apr 2019 #21
iamthebandfanman Apr 2019 #22
NYMinute Apr 2019 #25
Locrian Apr 2019 #27
dalton99a Apr 2019 #23
NYMinute Apr 2019 #24
Doodley Apr 2019 #26
Cha Apr 2019 #28
COLGATE4 Apr 2019 #30
Gothmog Apr 2019 #31

Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:03 PM

1. That's all I care about too

 

Vote the damn ticket.

It really is THAT simple!

& rec.!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:56 PM

15. I totally agree!!!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to Left-over (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:21 AM

18. Yep!!

 

The priority is to dump tRump ASAP.

So, we end up waiting for the election to do it or -- ?

Voting the ticket is the only way out of this corrupt fiasco we find ourselves in.

I always vote the ticket whether I like all of the candidates or not.

No ifs, ands or buts about it!

Now is not the time to be choosy!

Anyone BUT another puke destroying America!

Just VOTE DEMOCRATIC !!



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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:08 PM

2. K & R!!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:13 PM

3. +100

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:27 PM

4. That is my top priority by light-years.

 

Every now and then I allow myself to fantasize that we live in a normal world, and think about the stuff I would care about if we didn't literally have to save the country from the fucking morons.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:40 PM

5. Hear hear!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:55 PM

6. K&R nt

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:03 PM

7. Right there with you.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:11 PM

8. K & R

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:20 PM

9. Same!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:44 PM

10. Agreed

 

I support Biden, but if Sanders, or Harris, or Warren, or Mayor Pete, or any other candidate is our nominee, I will vote for that person without hesitation. This even applies to Gillibrand, may God have Mercy on my Soul!!!
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:09 PM

11. Yep. 4 more years of Trump would destroy our country.

 


We CAN'T let it happen.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:22 PM

12. you forgot...

 

And get a majority in the Senate .
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:44 PM

13. Me too

 

I just want a candidate that can beat trump.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:52 PM

14. Good News: We have a whole bunch of very good candidates.

 

A good candidate is the best way to beat Trump or whoever they put up. I'm not convinced it will be Trump.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:15 PM

16. My top priority is resolving the conditions that caused Trump.

 

Trump is a symptom not a cause. If he is voted out, we will only get a temporary reprieve as our country continues to unravel. I'm only looking at candidates who have ideas for how to resolve the dangerous divisions in our society. Not coincidentally, I believe those candidates will have the best chance of beating Trump.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:45 AM

19. I agree

 

Including climate change issues
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:17 PM

17. I don't care about anything but beating Obama...

 

so, said most of the Republicans when they picked their candidate for the 2012 Republican Primaries.
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Response to DCofVA (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:23 AM

29. So?

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

20. Same. Nt

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:08 PM

21. We have an S.O.B. in the White House

 

I feel the only way to beat an SOB is with an SOB. Biden is our SOB. Trump may throw the first punch, but Joe is able to punch back harder.

If the election was for an open seat, I most likely would support someone else.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:04 AM

22. "I don't care about anything but beating Trump."

 

Substitute Trump with Bush and you have the entire thought process of the 2004 primaries. ABB. Anyone But Bush. That worked out great for us in 2004.
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Response to iamthebandfanman (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:13 AM

25. DIfferent times, different circumstances

 

Bush was not Trump.
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Response to iamthebandfanman (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:08 AM

27. if the last few years have shown me anything...

 

It's that there are a lot of people in the media, politics, wealthy, that *love* the benefits of trump. These are in addition to the maga idiots that are the gop cannon fodder.

Which means that there is a very high chance of another far right dictator gaining power unless we fix the current *system* that allows someone like trump to become president.

We cannot simply treat the symptom and fix the disease.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:11 AM

23. The monster must be evicted - I don't care how or by whom

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:11 AM

24. The progressive puritanism

 

is a path to ruin.

I am with you. We have to win and to hell with the ultra pures.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:17 AM

26. Beating Trump matters if you care about the environment, if you care

 

about poverty, if you care about healthcare, if you care about America's standing in the world, if you care about how we treat our neighbors and desperate people who need help, if you care about our democracy, if you care about treating people equally whether they are male or female, black, brown or white, or gay or straight, if you care about the importance of education and science, if you care about the truth and a media that is free to call out the lies and corrupt actions of the worst president of all time.

The list goes on, but these are the values of Democrats. They should be the values of Republicans, but their continued support for Trump shows they have no values.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:21 AM

28. That's all any

 

would care about!
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:09 AM

30. K&R

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:19 AM

31. Agreed

 

We have to defeat trump. There is a very good chance that trump will win if we pick a weak or unsafe choice. There are posters who believe that we can nominate the most liberal/socialist nominee as possible and that candidate will easily win because everyone hates trump. It is their position that this is a historic opportunity to nominate someone would otherwise not be electable.

From Larry Sabato https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-economy-got-nixon-reagan-and-bush-reelected-it-could-do-it-for-trump-too/2019/04/23/b8920d34-65e6-11e9-a1b6-b29b90efa879_story.html?utm_term=.a35b315730d2

Ultimately, Trump may turn out to be at the mercy of conventional factors. In 2016, academic predictive models based on fundamentals such as the state of the economy suggested that Trump, or any other Republican candidate, was in position to win the election or come very close. This time, such models (once they become operative next year) could make Trump the early favorite despite his poor approval ratings.

Credit the powers of incumbency and a strong economy, the state of which may matter more to Trumpís odds than nearly anything else. Incumbency and the economy, among other matters, ended up being more than enough for Nixon, Reagan and Bush. Despite Trumpís unprecedented outlandishness, that same combination might work for him, too.

Most POTUS are re-elected if the economy is good. Here is a scary study that shows this


There are good reasons to doubt this study


I do not believe that trump is assured of winning. If we want to win, Democrats need to nominate a strong nominee who is NOT too far out of the mainstream
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