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Who runs for President in 2024? (Original Post) BluesClues Mar 2020 OP
Whoever is the Dem VP will be in pole position, especially as Joe OnDoutside Mar 2020 #1
Thinking that myself. elleng Mar 2020 #26
This is about the 2020 primaries. Kingofalldems Mar 2020 #2
+1 HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #8
Bernie will run in 2024, -28, -32, -36,......n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #3
It will be literally Weekend at Bernie's for the infinite future. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #7
lol yes the only answer that is treestar Mar 2020 #16
"who do the Republicans run in 2024?" left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #4
I kind of agree that it is a bit theoretical for my tastes el_bryanto Mar 2020 #12
Assuming Trump is unsuccessful in declaring a fascist state, and is actually forced to leave office StevieM Mar 2020 #5
Pete is very moderate though Polybius Mar 2020 #23
Nope. No deal. StevieM Mar 2020 #25
I REALLY do not buy into this 'Buttigieg is a moderate' spin from the Sanders lot Celerity Mar 2020 #28
I'd take that deal. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #40
If Trump wins in 2020, we have 28 candidates out of 29 to pick from. :) nt Sloumeau Mar 2020 #6
Strongest Republican ticket Rubio Or Haley Cicada Mar 2020 #9
You can't turn a sitting president into a lame duck in his first term especially when this one has Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #10
Bernie already lost the primary showblue22 Mar 2020 #11
Biden's VP pick needs to be someone who's young enough (and eager enough) to take over. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #13
that is why I want Mayor Pete demtenjeep Mar 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #14
We do not need this kind of nonsense now. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #15
I think Biden Todd79 Mar 2020 #18
'Nikki is Mark Sanford's Argentine lover' Celerity Mar 2020 #29
You misinterpreted my joke Todd79 Mar 2020 #32
ahh, oki Celerity Mar 2020 #33
Would there be any interest if a male candidate had had a one night stand denem Mar 2020 #35
TBH, I have no idea, given...... Trump and his wandering orange mushroom. Celerity Mar 2020 #36
There a good chance with Boris' cull, I mean strengthen, the herd denem Mar 2020 #37
'Liverpool will miss out again' Celerity Mar 2020 #38
Yes, we all remember that ! denem Mar 2020 #39
It was a joke Todd79 Mar 2020 #41
Sanders/Gabbard v. Gaetz/Jordan LuvNewcastle Mar 2020 #19
Probably Mad Max... First Speaker Mar 2020 #20
Max who? Polybius Mar 2020 #22
... Celerity Mar 2020 #27
If Biden/Bernie wins, Ted Cruz Polybius Mar 2020 #21
Cenk? Joe Rogan? showblue22 Mar 2020 #24
There is a good possibility... Mike Nelson Mar 2020 #30
Right now, who cares? We have one job to do right now. Only one: get Joe elected. Squinch Mar 2020 #31
If Trump wins (agh...) predict it will be someone not in the usual line-up. Like an Obama. CTyankee Mar 2020 #34
 

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
1. Whoever is the Dem VP will be in pole position, especially as Joe
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:31 PM
Mar 2020

intends to give them an active portfolio.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

elleng

(130,980 posts)
26. Thinking that myself.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:03 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kingofalldems

(38,460 posts)
2. This is about the 2020 primaries.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:32 PM
Mar 2020

Not sure why you are posting this here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
8. +1
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:47 PM
Mar 2020

I can’t think of anything I’m less interested in right now than the 2024 presidential race.

But since I’m here I guess I’ll play along. If Trump wins it’ll be a cast of thousands in both parties. Too hard to project what it would look like if Biden won and didn’t want to run for a second term. Lot of variables.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
3. Bernie will run in 2024, -28, -32, -36,......n/t
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,748 posts)
7. It will be literally Weekend at Bernie's for the infinite future.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:42 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. lol yes the only answer that is
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

relatively certain is that Bernie will be running.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
4. "who do the Republicans run in 2024?"
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

This is the "Democratic Primaries (Forum)"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
12. I kind of agree that it is a bit theoretical for my tastes
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

But it is worth considering who the people on the bench are. Still nobody would have predicted Trump in 2014 so it is probably a waste of time.

Bryant

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Undecided
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
5. Assuming Trump is unsuccessful in declaring a fascist state, and is actually forced to leave office
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:35 PM
Mar 2020

after he is defeated, here is my best guess:

Biden will be the nominee. He will not seek a second term. His VP will be Tammy Duckworth. She will be the nominee in 2024.

If Trump can somehow win re-election, or steal the election like he did last time, then I am guessing Pete Buttigieg will be the nominee in 2024.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Polybius

(15,447 posts)
23. Pete is very moderate though
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:57 AM
Mar 2020

If Trump somehow beats Biden, you would really have to go pretty far left in 2024. There is no way Democrats can nominate a moderate three times in a row. It would have to be a progressive's turn, it's only fair.

I made a post recently that Bernie and Biden supporters should come to a deal. Every Bernie supporter works hard for Biden this vote, and votes for Joe. No excuses! However, if Biden loses, we must go left in 2024, it's worth a try. Deal?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
25. Nope. No deal.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:56 AM
Mar 2020

2016 didn't prove anything. The FBI and James Comey obliterated our candidate's reputation with their bogus investigation into a ridiculous scandal about nothing. Hillary was more trusted on managing the economy and handling public policy, although the media likes to pretend otherwise.

I am not going to change my assessment of what wins an election if William Barr goes after the Democratic nominee and affects the outcome of the race. As it is, the only reason Trump has a shot at winning is because some people give him credit for Obama's success and managing the economy.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,422 posts)
28. I REALLY do not buy into this 'Buttigieg is a moderate' spin from the Sanders lot
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:05 AM
Mar 2020

If you compare his platform and programme proposals to any previous nominee before him going back decades upon decades, other than Bernie, he is far more progressive. Just because he doesn't shoot off the deep end of Sanderite fevered dreams does not, I repeat does NOT make him or most of the last 20 or so who were left, some some of centre left (I have even saw him called a crypto Republican ffs!, including on here, and that earned a poof, rightly so) to centre right sell-out. AT ALL. That is pure and unadulterated bollocks.

It is pure gaslighting to say he is some middle of the roader. I defy you to point to significant parts of his agenda that were 'moderate' when viewed in a historical context, especially compared to anything in the last 75 years before him (not counting Sanders).

Just because a candidate disagreed with Bernie on certain big ticket items does NOT automatically make them a moderate or some sort of sell-out, or a corporate hack, or Rethug-lite, or ANY of the other bullshit smears that came flying in from the Sanders campaign and their social media attack dogs against any other candidate (WARREN included!) not named Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(14,009 posts)
40. I'd take that deal.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

We need Bernie supporters to work for Biden. But I’m not opposed to a progressive nominee in the future. I just don’t think Sanders is the best standard bearer for the movement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
6. If Trump wins in 2020, we have 28 candidates out of 29 to pick from. :) nt
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
9. Strongest Republican ticket Rubio Or Haley
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,599 posts)
10. You can't turn a sitting president into a lame duck in his first term especially when this one has
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:22 PM
Mar 2020

so much to do...let finish this first OK...let it go.

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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
11. Bernie already lost the primary
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:22 PM
Mar 2020

He will likely give 2024 a try though

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Biden's VP pick needs to be someone who's young enough (and eager enough) to take over.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
17. that is why I want Mayor Pete
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:46 PM
Mar 2020

to take on the mantle

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,013 posts)
15. We do not need this kind of nonsense now. . . . nt
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Todd79

(166 posts)
18. I think Biden
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:42 PM
Mar 2020

I think Biden will be fine. COVID-19 not withstanding, 80 is the new 70. I expect after that it will be Kamala Harris vs Father Pence or Rafael Cruz. They’ll find out that Nikki is Mark Sanford’s Argentine lover and she’ll be out.

Maybe Trump has screwed up the GOP so bad they’ll try and recreate the magic and nominate Palin.

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Celerity

(43,422 posts)
29. 'Nikki is Mark Sanford's Argentine lover'
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:15 AM
Mar 2020

WTH

Haley (Nimrata "Nikki" Haley, née Randhawa) is Indian American with no ties whatsoever to Argentina, and Sanford's Argentine GF was Maria Belen Chapur.

'Luv Gov' Sanford spotted with Argentine girlfriend

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/mark-sanford-maria-belen-chapur-relationship-119143

When Rep. Mark Sanford posted a rambling, 2,000-word announcement of his breakup with María Belén Chapur on his Facebook page last September, we thought we’d seen the last of the nutty antics of those two lovebirds—but hold onto your hats because it appears the couple is giving their union one more go. Chapur was spotted hanging out with Sanford and members of his staff at last week’s annual Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park. Seated near the first base line, a casually dressed Sanford, who generously passed out cans of beer to those around him, was accompanied by Chapur, looking tanned in a sleeveless black top. It was the striking Argentinian brunette’s 2009 affair with the then-married governor of South Carolina that gave whole new meaning to the term “hiking the Appalachian Trail.”

In 2012, the couple were engaged, and in 2013 Sanford revived his political career by being elected to Congress in a special election. But in September 2014, Sanford announced he had broken things off with his mistress-cum-fiancée, citing the stress of his ongoing divorce negotiations with ex-wife Jenny Sanford. In an interview with the New York Times just days after the breakup, Chapur said it was she who ended the relationship after Sanford wouldn’t set a wedding date, indicating she felt like a pawn in Sanford’s political comeback; with the election over, she suggested that he no longer needed a fiancée. Chapur added she didn’t know Sanford was going to spill the beans on Facebook until she learned it from media reports. The two went their separate ways, with Chapur going back to Argentina and Sanford remaining in D.C. and South Carolina.

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Todd79

(166 posts)
32. You misinterpreted my joke
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:10 AM
Mar 2020

That wasn’t intended about race. I was joking about the rumors going around about Haley being involved with a South Carolina pol back around the time Sanford got in trouble.


A second man is claiming to have had an affair with Nikki Haley, the married frontrunner to be the Republican candidate for South Carolina governor. Larry Merchant, a well-known lobbyist and political consultant, says he had a one-night stand with Haley, who has been fighting back allegations that she slept with a conservative blogger. (Haley is hoping to succeed Gov. Mark Sanford, who is infamous for his Argentinian affair.) Merchant says the political night of passion happened at a 2008 school-choice conference in Salt Lake City, when Haley was a state representative on the insurance subcommittee and he was the insurance industry’s chief lobbyist. Haley’s staff denies the allegation. “She can deny it,” Merchant says. “Let the people decide. I know what happened, and my conscience is clear.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2010/06/02/second-man-claims-nikki-haley-affair?via=mobile&social=Linkedin&jwsource=cl
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denem

(11,045 posts)
35. Would there be any interest if a male candidate had had a one night stand
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:37 AM
Mar 2020

with someone, somewhere, 10 years ago?

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Celerity

(43,422 posts)
36. TBH, I have no idea, given...... Trump and his wandering orange mushroom.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:49 AM
Mar 2020

Even if I was not a lesbian, I would rather slit my wrists than let that beast maul me.

Plus he is 50 years older than me, and no amount of money (at least not what Trump could gin up, as I think he is nowhere near a billionaire when his debts owed are factored in) would persuade me to grandpa sex that pile of dogshit. £10-15 billion, then we might be able to talk, as then I could buy Chelsea from Abramovich and save the club long term.



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denem

(11,045 posts)
37. There a good chance with Boris' cull, I mean strengthen, the herd
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

the Premier League will be cancelled, and Liverpool will miss out again

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Celerity

(43,422 posts)
38. 'Liverpool will miss out again'
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:15 AM
Mar 2020

from your lips to dogs ears!!!!!!!

I DETEST the Bindippers

NULL AND VOID the season

tis music to me ears!





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denem

(11,045 posts)
39. Yes, we all remember that !
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020

Best ever rendition of that Elvis Costello song people keep mentioning.
The lyrics are probably too .... for you ... (more of a green light girl)





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Todd79

(166 posts)
41. It was a joke
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

Two South Carolina Republican governors back to back allegedly involved in affairs. It ruined Sanford at the time, so I put 2 and 2 together.

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LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
19. Sanders/Gabbard v. Gaetz/Jordan
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020
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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
20. Probably Mad Max...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020

...the way things are goin'...

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Polybius

(15,447 posts)
22. Max who?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:51 AM
Mar 2020

Max Rose from Staten Island?

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Polybius

(15,447 posts)
21. If Biden/Bernie wins, Ted Cruz
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:50 AM
Mar 2020

He came in second last time. I expect him to plow through the Republican debates. He's better than the rest of the Republicans at debating.

If Trump wins, it depends who he beats:

If he beats Biden, Democrats will certainly go left in 2024, either Warren or even AOC (who will be 35). It won't be Bernie though. He'll be just too old.

If Trump beats Bernie, I'd say Corey Booker. He's moderate and awesome, and is a fantastic debater. The perfect candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
24. Cenk? Joe Rogan?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:15 AM
Mar 2020

You never know.

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Mike Nelson

(9,960 posts)
30. There is a good possibility...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 06:10 AM
Mar 2020

... Biden will serve one term. I hear people say some Dems desperately want the power/Presidency, but Biden decided not to run last time, and Hillary decided not to run this time; they are more sensible than power-hungry. Still, if he's healthy, Biden may decide to run again. I also think, health permitting, Bernie will run again. He has the "presidency bug" and so does Romney for the Republicans. Nicki, Ted and their usual cast of thousands will run, too...

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Squinch

(50,956 posts)
31. Right now, who cares? We have one job to do right now. Only one: get Joe elected.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:11 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
34. If Trump wins (agh...) predict it will be someone not in the usual line-up. Like an Obama.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:31 AM
Mar 2020

Not well known nationally, but a real breakthrough candidate.

And it will be a woman who is not in the spotlight now, but an emerging leader, probably in Congress (but it could be a governor).

If Biden wins, pretty much as above, but with more grooming of her. More support and encouragement.

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