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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:51 AM

Joinfortmill (6,186 posts)

 

Voted in SC Democratic Primary this morning

A couple of things to note. Initially, they couldn't find me in the database. I had verified my name was listed before I went to the polls, so I knew I was in the database. They asked me for my voter registration card, which, thankfully, I brought with me along with my passport, in case there was an issue. They did finally locate me on the database and I continued to the voting machine. SC has new voting machines with a paper backup, so it's a two-part voting experience. At the first machine, you enter a voting card, make a choice from a list end print the card out. All straight forward, right? Well, not exactly. The names aren't in alphabetical order by last name. So, Biden isn't first on the list, Bernie is. WTF? If you're voting in SC pay attention. You can go back and make a change, which I did. Once you make your choice, print out the card and verify who you voted for. Next you bring the "paper ballot" to a scanning machine, which scans your vote and keeps the "paper ballot". That's it. Not too bad, but you will still need to stay alert.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Reply Voted in SC Democratic Primary this morning (Original post)
 Joinfortmill Feb 2020 OP
LineReply Ballots are randomized.
 gredinger Feb 2020 #1
LineLineReply In Texas there is a drawing for ballot order in the primary
 Gothmog Feb 2020 #12
LineLineLineReply That is correct for Texas, and each county has their own drawing
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #17
LineLineLineReply good for them
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #18
LineLineReply In our county in Indiana names are not in same order at each voting location.
 LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #19
LineLineLineNew Reply now that is complicated!!!
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #27
LineReply Why would Sanders be listed first??
 honest.abe Feb 2020 #2
LineLineReply ???
 gredinger Feb 2020 #4
LineLineLineReply That was what I was suspecting.
 honest.abe Feb 2020 #8
LineLineLineNew Reply probably the random order is done at the county level
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #21
LineReply Many states have randomized listings for the names of candidates.
 Sloumeau Feb 2020 #3
LineReply Perhaps name position on the ballot is determined by lot?
 vlyons Feb 2020 #5
LineReply That is what
 True Blue American Feb 2020 #6
LineLineNew Reply same here in Texas nt
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #22
LineReply I'm in SC and will be voting for Joe this morning.
 Laurian Feb 2020 #7
LineLineReply Laurian, thanks a bunch in advance! :) nt
 Sloumeau Feb 2020 #11
LineReply New Mexico has a Pre-Primary Convention
 duhneece Feb 2020 #9
LineLineNew Reply we do this after the primary. I think it is March 21 this year
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #23
LineReply Mail in ballot in California . . .
 Iliyah Feb 2020 #10
LineLineReply My mail in ballot had them all on the same page.
 MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #16
LineReply Always bring your voting card
 onetexan Feb 2020 #13
LineLineNew Reply the voter registration card is very helpful if you are
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #24
LineReply I voted in the SC Democratic primary on Thursday ..
 DemoTex Feb 2020 #14
LineLineNew Reply and I thought Texas was crazy
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #25
LineReply Elizabeth Warren was at the very bottom of my ballot in Minnesota.
 warmfeet Feb 2020 #15
LineReply You didn't indicate why they had a problem finding you.
 LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #20
LineLineNew Reply when that happens here, we call Elections Central
 yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #26
LineNew Reply California isn't alphbetical order either
 still_one Feb 2020 #28
LineLineNew Reply I am undecided
 Frances Feb 2020 #29
LineLineLineNew Reply I am voting for Biden for a lot reasons. The two main ones are his experience, and I becuse I
 still_one Feb 2020 #30

Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:53 AM

gredinger (86 posts)

1. Ballots are randomized.

 

Why would it be in alphabetic order? Seems like it'd be worth a name change to be at the top of a ballot.

As far as I know, ballots have always been randomized order (per ballot).
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:16 AM

Gothmog (111,204 posts)

12. In Texas there is a drawing for ballot order in the primary

 

For the general election the party who holds the governor Is first. The state party is suing to change this law
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:45 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

17. That is correct for Texas, and each county has their own drawing

 

Here in Tarrant, we have it at the CDEC meeting, with most of the precinct chairs in attendance. The county chair conducts the draw, and there is a hat or bowl with numbered slips. For example, in our US Senate race, we have 12 candidates, so there will be an envelope with numbers 1-12 and each candidate (or a representative) will draw. That will be the ballot order.

Each contested office is handled the same way. It is a lot of fun because there are always supporters in the crowd and there is lots of cheering etc. Some of the candidates will make funny comments when they do their draw.

I have not attended a ballot draw in a presidential year, so it is possible that for the presidential line, the State Democratic Executive Committee does the draw so that all ballots in the state have the same order. I shall have to ask my county chair about that
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:48 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

18. good for them

 

Gothmog, do you know the answer to my question below?
I know that we draw at the CDEC for the Congressional, Legislative, county wide votes. Does the SDEC do the draw for all the statewide offices, so that every ballot shows the same order across the state?
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:59 AM

Star Member LiberalFighter (43,668 posts)

19. In our county in Indiana names are not in same order at each voting location.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:30 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

27. now that is complicated!!!

 

Our system could never do that. It sort of gives me a headache to think each precinct has its own ballot order.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:53 AM

Star Member honest.abe (6,234 posts)

2. Why would Sanders be listed first??

 

That makes zero sense unless they have random list order for each voter.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:04 AM

gredinger (86 posts)

4. ???

 

That's what I said. It's random *per* ballot.

So, each ballot is in random order. For someone else, they'd probably have Biden first.

Why not actually read the names instead of just checking boxes?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:19 AM

Star Member honest.abe (6,234 posts)

8. That was what I was suspecting.

 

It would be good to hear from others voting in SC to confirm that is the case.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:03 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

21. probably the random order is done at the county level

 

I know our machines are not designed to resort the ballot every time someone else comes up to vote. Our check-in generates a barcode which is scanned to produce an access code. The voter uses that code to open the voting machine, the proper ballot for their precinct displays and the voter uses the touch screen to make his/her choices. When the voter decides everything is the way he/she wants it to be, the voter prints the ballot and takes it to a scanner which is where it is actually counted.

The machine that assigns the code has no memory and that bar code only contains the precinct and the ballot form numbers. so the right ballot comes up. The actual voting machines have no memory either.

The scanner has memory; we print a ton of tapes when we close which show the totals, and that all goes to Election Central with the scanner and the ballots.

It is pretty slick but definitely not designed to give every voter a randomly sorted ballot.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:58 AM

Sloumeau (2,657 posts)

3. Many states have randomized listings for the names of candidates.

 

There is a reason why there used to be so many businesses named "AAA" in the phone book. It is because people used to just pick the first name that they saw. This is why so many states randomize the listings. I live in Arizona. The state randomizes names. Biden was at the bottom of a bunch of names.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:05 AM

Star Member vlyons (8,355 posts)

5. Perhaps name position on the ballot is determined by lot?

 

nt
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:08 AM

True Blue American (15,096 posts)

6. That is what

 

We have here!
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:07 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

22. same here in Texas nt

 

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:09 AM

Laurian (2,572 posts)

7. I'm in SC and will be voting for Joe this morning.

 

Thanks for the helpful information.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:43 AM

Sloumeau (2,657 posts)

11. Laurian, thanks a bunch in advance! :) nt

 

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:36 AM

Star Member duhneece (3,474 posts)

9. New Mexico has a Pre-Primary Convention

 

Each county elects delegates to go to the Democratic (or R) convention to vote for their candidate. A candidate must get at least 15% (or maybe it’s 20%). Whoever gets the most votes is listed first on ballots at the primary....not until June.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:12 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

23. we do this after the primary. I think it is March 21 this year

 

We do a bunch of other things as well, all part of the runup to the state convention, like preparing and approving the resolutions which go to the state convention and help form the platform at the national.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:43 AM

Iliyah (25,111 posts)

10. Mail in ballot in California . . .

 

has all the presidential candidates listed, even the ones that dropped out and VP Biden is on the back page.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:38 AM

Star Member MrsCoffee (5,296 posts)

16. My mail in ballot had them all on the same page.

 

I’m near San Francisco.

But yeah, I was surprised to see all the names on there. A couple I didn’t even recognize.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:24 AM

onetexan (10,408 posts)

13. Always bring your voting card

 

These cheaters will do everything & anything to discourage people from voting.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:17 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

24. the voter registration card is very helpful if you are

 

at the wrong voting location for your precinct. The judges have a list and can tell right away where you should go to vote.

We now have this absolutely wonderful thing called voting centers! All of our existing precinct voting locations are now called voting centers, and since we can generate a ballot based on your precinct # you can vote anywhere in the county! No more arriving at 5 til 7 only to find out you need to be across the county. It is so nice.

If the difference is due to an address change, we can fix that right there.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:35 AM

DemoTex (24,767 posts)

14. I voted in the SC Democratic primary on Thursday ..

 

Early voting (they refuse to call it that) is at the city/county office complex in Greenville. It took me 45 minutes to vote in the Democratic primary.

There was also voting for a sheriff's runoff election, which threw in an element of confusion. But they would alow you to vote in only one election at a time. After voting in one, you could get back in line and go back through (show ID, etc) and vote in the other election. After I finished voting in the Democratic primary, I decided to come back next week to vote in the sheriff election. Early voting turnout for that election next week will be very, very light.

My early voting experience went well. I have voted in several elections now where the paper ballot backup is used. The only difference that I can tell from Joinfortmill's experience is at the very end: in Greenville County the paper ballots are scanned, then returned to the voter to be placed by the voter in a locked ballot box.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:22 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

25. and I thought Texas was crazy

 

at least all of our candidates are on one ballot in one election. Sheriff, County Commissioners, JP, Constable are all primaried at the same time as the Lege, Congress, president, etc
Geez Loueez we have enough trouble getting folks to vote as it is without throwing all the county votes into a separate ballot.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:36 AM

warmfeet (3,321 posts)

15. Elizabeth Warren was at the very bottom of my ballot in Minnesota.

 

Not sure if the ballots are randomized here.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:01 AM

Star Member LiberalFighter (43,668 posts)

20. You didn't indicate why they had a problem finding you.

 

It may be worthwhile to contact your county Democratic Party and let them know and even the local Election Board so they know what to do.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

Star Member yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)

26. when that happens here, we call Elections Central

 

and usually they can locate the voter.

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:45 AM

Star Member still_one (83,636 posts)

28. California isn't alphbetical order either

 

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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:58 AM

Frances (8,445 posts)

29. I am undecided

 

Why did you choose Biden?
Like most DUers, I will vote for a tomato before I vote for Trump
I worry that while Joe is a decent guy and I value decency, he won’t generate excitement
But now I hear he’s thinking of Kamala Harris as a running mate
What do you think of that possibility?
By the way, am I breaking any rules by asking this question?
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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 12:07 PM

Star Member still_one (83,636 posts)

30. I am voting for Biden for a lot reasons. The two main ones are his experience, and I becuse I

 

Believe he has the best chance to win the general election

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