Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)so there is that.
Scrap the military entirely might do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)"It will come from somewhere, it always does"! Incredible, eh?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)See? Easy! Problem solved!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Have searched about and havent found it yet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Falcata
(156 posts)wouldn't do it. The military budget is in the billions, medical care is in the trillions department....
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,643 posts)The other fails completely it looks to me.
Why are any Dems getting so vitriolic about specifics of paying for a highly desirable goal. The GOP never does this. They make essentially the same case as Bernie relatively speaking. Their argument is always the same. The costs will be offset by returns (in their case revenue to the government, in Sanders case lower cost to individuals which equals more money in peoples pockets). The freak out over details at this point is absurd. You/we are letting the media control the narrative and then adding fuel to it. Does the GOP ever do this?!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,323 posts)Apparently, a lot of Bernie's campaign is based on not differentiating between promises and goals. And enough people don't see the difference between the two.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,643 posts)Sanders at least has always been true to his words and will, in my estimation, fight for what he promises. He also is, contrary to the opinion of some here, a pragmatist and has shown that throughout his career ... capturing gains that he could when and via means he could. And he did that quite masterfully, particularly while in the House, using the amendment process.
Enough people do in fact see the difference. We all know Sanders won't get everything he wants, but he will start the process fighting for it, not capitulating ground on the basis of so-called "realism/pragmatism". "Pragmatism" is and has been a one way street -- to the right for the past 40+ years.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,323 posts)Just to start the process. And that's the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is what you described as "enough people do in fact see the difference". Sadly, the outcome of this will not likely be what you expect, but the opposite of what you expect. If enough people see the difference between goals and promises, Trump will remain in power and will consolidate it, and the first victims will be the people who can't tell the difference between the two.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,643 posts)best bet. The twain just wont meet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Is indeed the shit end of farm animal
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)Exactly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden