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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:43 PM Feb 2020

Buckle up fellow Bernie supporters, it's time for the kitchen sink.

We see it here on DU, we see it on many of the news channels, and now Bloomberg is going to bankroll attack ads across the country. The kitchen sink is being thrown at Bernie Sanders to try and stop his momentum in the primary. Most of these attacks will be smears and attempts to destroy his character. It's going to get ugly, so don't get discouraged.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Buckle up fellow Bernie supporters, it's time for the kitchen sink. (Original Post) HerbChestnut Feb 2020 OP
It'll be just fine. David__77 Feb 2020 #1
Operation Slanders for Sanders. jmg257 Feb 2020 #2
You mean like facts that Sanders wanted to primary Obama? Yeah, time for that to come out uponit7771 Feb 2020 #3
What, NOBODY knew that before? ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #7
A few politicos did maybe, but time for the world to know now ... that's not going to sit uponit7771 Feb 2020 #9
Are you implying that southern states are uninformed? ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #10
Nah, just Sanders campaign manager referrences in 16 which a lot of people don't know about uponit7771 Feb 2020 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #39
Maybe but its not socialized among the "southern states" that Sanders wanted Obama challenge... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #40
Sanders supporters didn't just start struggling when Trump became president. dbolski Feb 2020 #14
Might as well get used to it relayerbob Feb 2020 #4
I dunno, Bloomberg already used a couple "talking points" I've seen circulating... HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #8
They will use everything Bloomie can come up, and then make up some of their own relayerbob Feb 2020 #12
And, TBH relayerbob Feb 2020 #15
"I'm sure Bloomberg is just getting warmed up." HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #17
Yeah, I noticed that. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #26
Exactly democrattotheend Feb 2020 #47
Unless they're false, they're not "kitchen sinks" or attacks or smears. George II Feb 2020 #5
you mean like this: Kurt V. Feb 2020 #28
Clever - where's the rest of the tweet and the one introducing that? Definitely NOT what.... George II Feb 2020 #32
Isn't it obvious I'm not that savvy. lol. anyway the tweet says Bernie on despots. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #38
It actually says it in the tweet. lapucelle Feb 2020 #50
Unless an incumbent is running, it's always ugly. Kaleva Feb 2020 #6
Bloomberg is going to dump so much money against Bernie but ultimately Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #13
+1000 bluewater Feb 2020 #16
Spring training if he's to be the nominee BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #18
Haha Zeus69 Feb 2020 #20
This is very true cherryinpa Feb 2020 #24
absolutely... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #19
...you mean the "establishment" that allows him to run on the Democratic ticket?.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #49
I honestly feel like this forum has been invaded by Russians. OliverQ Feb 2020 #21
I thought Russia supported Bernie? n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #25
No, Russia supports Trump and sowing chaos. OliverQ Feb 2020 #43
So you want to dismiss the intelligence community when it reports something that ehrnst Feb 2020 #48
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #29
You mean the whole site, or just this forum? Interesting. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #34
Just the primary forum. OliverQ Feb 2020 #41
Good. Get the oppo out of the way now. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #22
I just need him to explain ... cherryinpa Feb 2020 #23
Its called vetting. honest.abe Feb 2020 #27
I'd like Bernie to explain why he sat on the Russia helping him story for a month DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #30
It was classified information that got leaked. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #33
Ok. If he couldn't reveal it until it was leaked, that is reasonable. n/t DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #35
Why did president Obama sit on the information that Russia was messing with our SamKnause Feb 2020 #36
There's a better answer posted. DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #37
Bring it on. SamKnause Feb 2020 #31
Um... if Bloomberg really attacks Sanders and not Trump, then he is an idiot. McCamy Taylor Feb 2020 #42
It's his plan. I think it's going to backfire badly. Bloomberg has tons of baggage and he's not Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #45
Bloomberg should focus his ire and money on Trump. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #44
Bernie should have kept his word on the release of his private info. oasis Feb 2020 #46
 

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
2. Operation Slanders for Sanders.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:45 PM
Feb 2020

Every assault needs a good name!

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uponit7771

(90,320 posts)
3. You mean like facts that Sanders wanted to primary Obama? Yeah, time for that to come out
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
7. What, NOBODY knew that before?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(90,320 posts)
9. A few politicos did maybe, but time for the world to know now ... that's not going to sit
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:50 PM
Feb 2020

... well with the "southern states" (bet you didn't know about that one)

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ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
10. Are you implying that southern states are uninformed?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:53 PM
Feb 2020

More than a few "politicos" know about 2012.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

uponit7771

(90,320 posts)
11. Nah, just Sanders campaign manager referrences in 16 which a lot of people don't know about
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #9)

 

uponit7771

(90,320 posts)
40. Maybe but its not socialized among the "southern states" that Sanders wanted Obama challenge...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:11 PM
Feb 2020

... time for it to become common knowledge no?

tia

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dbolski

(52 posts)
14. Sanders supporters didn't just start struggling when Trump became president.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:59 PM
Feb 2020

They were struggling through the Obama years, and it won't matter to them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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relayerbob

(6,539 posts)
4. Might as well get used to it
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020

The GOP will throw far nastier stuff than even Bloomberg will come up with - at any and all of our candidates. If any of them can't survive this, they won't survive in the GE

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
8. I dunno, Bloomberg already used a couple "talking points" I've seen circulating...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020

...around RW groups. Calling Bernie a communist? Using the, "BuT hE hAs ThReE hOuSeS!!11!" line to try and discredit Bernie's fight against income and wealth inequality? I'm sure Bloomberg is just getting warmed up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

relayerbob

(6,539 posts)
12. They will use everything Bloomie can come up, and then make up some of their own
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020

Don't kid yourself, these are going to be a firehouse. Get used to hearing the word Communist, because whether you or I or anyone knows differently, won't matter in the least. The GOP will saturate the airwaves and the internet with the word, and whether in context or not, will take all these interviews and videos and weave their own story. Look what they've done already!! And most of the country i ill-prepared to deal with it.

I'm not justifying it, or liking it, just saying, get prepared, because we're still early in the pre-show, the main act hasn't even gotten warmed up yet

If I were to vote in a presidential
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relayerbob

(6,539 posts)
15. And, TBH
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:59 PM
Feb 2020

I can't understand why having three houses isn't an issue for people wanting wealth quality. Do you have three houses? I sure the hell don't, and never will

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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
17. "I'm sure Bloomberg is just getting warmed up."
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

Let's hope so.

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LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
26. Yeah, I noticed that.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:45 PM
Feb 2020

I'm sure those attacks will stop around here after he takes the lead on super Tuesday and those become rightwing talking points.

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
47. Exactly
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:02 PM
Feb 2020

Can you imagine if the Reverend Wright videos had come out in the fall of 2008? That election might have gone a lot differently. I'd rather air every candidate's dirty laundry now and see who survives. Then all of the opposition research is old news by November.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Unless they're false, they're not "kitchen sinks" or attacks or smears.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:48 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
28. you mean like this:
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:47 PM
Feb 2020

Team Bloomberg
@Mike2020
“Sure, Idi Amin ate people, but let’s not forget he was responsible for impressive growth in the
agriculture sector!” --- #BernieOnDespots
3:35 PM · Feb 24, 2020·Twitter Web App
47
Retweets
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Clever - where's the rest of the tweet and the one introducing that? Definitely NOT what....
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:54 PM
Feb 2020

....Bloomberg is saying about what Sanders might have said.

This is the second time that tweet has been posted in the last few minutes. Hmmmm.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
38. Isn't it obvious I'm not that savvy. lol. anyway the tweet says Bernie on despots.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:59 PM
Feb 2020

me and you both know sanders didn't say those things but how many ppl do you think are already telling their friends these horrible things sanders has said about despots. hi speed - low information

If I were to vote in a presidential
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lapucelle

(18,202 posts)
50. It actually says it in the tweet.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,276 posts)
6. Unless an incumbent is running, it's always ugly.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:48 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
13. Bloomberg is going to dump so much money against Bernie but ultimately
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg and Bernie reach very different audiences. Bloomberg’s got way more crap against him and this is starting to look very desperate. I expect it will backfire badly.

Biden going negative may have more sway picking off some older folks. But they are all getting mighty scared and flop sweat is never attractive. But it’s the primaries and expected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BeyondGeography

(39,359 posts)
18. Spring training if he's to be the nominee
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:17 PM
Feb 2020

Might as well see what the kid's got.

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Undecided
 

cherryinpa

(301 posts)
24. This is very true
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie fans should look at it positively.

A chance to truly stress test their client (btw when is he releasing his cardiac reports)?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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myohmy2

(3,146 posts)
19. absolutely...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:18 PM
Feb 2020

...BERNIE hasn't been given fair shake or treatment from the establishment ever...it's not going to begin now and it's only going to get worse...

...but fret not, stay focused, WE THE PEOPLE are on a roll...let them throw what they want at us, WE can handle it...

...we're not blind nor impotent...we've got the ideas, the money, the People and BERNIE to lead the fight...we'll navigate through the rough troubled establishment waters ahead and we'll win in November...no one said this was going to be easy...

...real change never is...but for god sake, we have a real revolution underway with a strong charismatic leader and this time we shall not be denied...

...BERNIE has shown us the way to fight to win, and win we shall...

...win we must...for our future and the future of this planet depends upon it...

...bring it on!

...with our help, WE and BERNIE can do it...guaranteed...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
49. ...you mean the "establishment" that allows him to run on the Democratic ticket?....
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:27 PM
Feb 2020

.....after he has insulted the party for decades?...

....knowing full well he won't even bother to vote as one?.....

...and allows him to caucus with them, giving him a stronger voice?....

... they just won't ever give him a break!....

.... .....

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
21. I honestly feel like this forum has been invaded by Russians.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:23 PM
Feb 2020

The amount of hate directed at Bernie over the dumbest things is truly astounding. And 99% of it is coming from Biden supporters. It's really turning me off Biden entirely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
25. I thought Russia supported Bernie? n/t
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
43. No, Russia supports Trump and sowing chaos.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:32 PM
Feb 2020

That's what is happening with all the Bernie bashing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
48. So you want to dismiss the intelligence community when it reports something that
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:26 PM
Feb 2020

makes you sad?

That doesn't put you in very good company.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
34. You mean the whole site, or just this forum? Interesting.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
41. Just the primary forum.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:30 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Yavin4

(35,425 posts)
22. Good. Get the oppo out of the way now.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:24 PM
Feb 2020

So that when the Fall campaign starts, it will be about the issues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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cherryinpa

(301 posts)
23. I just need him to explain ...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:25 PM
Feb 2020

The nudey Russian vodka party.

Kinky stuff and nothing illegal for sure, but its not gonna play well in our mid-west states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

honest.abe

(8,635 posts)
27. Its called vetting.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020

Best do it now before its too late.

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DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
30. I'd like Bernie to explain why he sat on the Russia helping him story for a month
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020

That one needs some Bern-splaining!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
33. It was classified information that got leaked.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
35. Ok. If he couldn't reveal it until it was leaked, that is reasonable. n/t
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
36. Why did president Obama sit on the information that Russia was messing with our
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:57 PM
Feb 2020

elections ???

Mitch McConnell threatened him.

Why didn't he speak up after he was threatened ???

I wasn't in Obama's shoes and I'm not in Bernie's shoes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
37. There's a better answer posted.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:59 PM
Feb 2020

B/t/w Obama didn't benefit, did he?

If Bernie was prohibited from revealing Russia supporting him as required by law, that I can buy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
31. Bring it on.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:54 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie can handle this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
42. Um... if Bloomberg really attacks Sanders and not Trump, then he is an idiot.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:31 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
45. It's his plan. I think it's going to backfire badly. Bloomberg has tons of baggage and he's not
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:37 PM
Feb 2020

someone who seems authentic. Part of why lots of stuff gets thrown at Bernie and doesn't seem to stick isn't that there hasn't been vetting - it's that for 40 years he has established an authenticity that many people (maybe not on DU- but in real world) like and respect.

I do see why Biden feels the need to attack - he's really got to win SC and he is doing what he needs to do. Its primary season and expected and I'm sure Bernie and Joe both know it's coming. It will probably pull some older voters and some black voters that were toying with Sanders into the Biden camp and put SC in Biden's column.

But honestly, I think Warren, Buttigieg and Klobachar aren't going to gain much by going after Bernie. Sanders supporters more than likely would have left for Warren if they were going to. Sanders supporters aren't likely to move into the Pete or Amy camp. They need to pull from eachother's camp - and from Bloomberg's if they want to stay in the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,916 posts)
44. Bloomberg should focus his ire and money on Trump.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:34 PM
Feb 2020

That’s the one good thing he could do for Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oasis

(49,341 posts)
46. Bernie should have kept his word on the release of his private info.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:48 PM
Feb 2020

This could be helpful on some of the credibility issues that may arise via "kitchen sink".

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