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Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:43 PM

 

Buckle up fellow Bernie supporters, it's time for the kitchen sink.

We see it here on DU, we see it on many of the news channels, and now Bloomberg is going to bankroll attack ads across the country. The kitchen sink is being thrown at Bernie Sanders to try and stop his momentum in the primary. Most of these attacks will be smears and attempts to destroy his character. It's going to get ugly, so don't get discouraged.
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Reply Buckle up fellow Bernie supporters, it's time for the kitchen sink. (Original post)
HerbChestnut Feb 2020 OP
David__77 Feb 2020 #1
jmg257 Feb 2020 #2
uponit7771 Feb 2020 #3
ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #7
uponit7771 Feb 2020 #9
ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #10
uponit7771 Feb 2020 #11
Post removed Feb 2020 #39
uponit7771 Feb 2020 #40
dbolski Feb 2020 #14
relayerbob Feb 2020 #4
HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #8
relayerbob Feb 2020 #12
relayerbob Feb 2020 #15
HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #17
LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #26
democrattotheend Feb 2020 #47
George II Feb 2020 #5
Kurt V. Feb 2020 #28
George II Feb 2020 #32
Kurt V. Feb 2020 #38
lapucelle Feb 2020 #50
Kaleva Feb 2020 #6
Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #13
bluewater Feb 2020 #16
BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #18
Zeus69 Feb 2020 #20
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #24
myohmy2 Feb 2020 #19
ehrnst Feb 2020 #49
OliverQ Feb 2020 #21
zackymilly Feb 2020 #25
OliverQ Feb 2020 #43
ehrnst Feb 2020 #48
Post removed Feb 2020 #29
YOHABLO Feb 2020 #34
OliverQ Feb 2020 #41
Yavin4 Feb 2020 #22
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #23
honest.abe Feb 2020 #27
DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #30
HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #33
DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #35
SamKnause Feb 2020 #36
DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #37
SamKnause Feb 2020 #31
McCamy Taylor Feb 2020 #42
Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #45
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:44 PM

1. It'll be just fine.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:45 PM

2. Operation Slanders for Sanders.

 

Every assault needs a good name!

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:46 PM

3. You mean like facts that Sanders wanted to primary Obama? Yeah, time for that to come out

 

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:49 PM

7. What, NOBODY knew that before?

 

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:50 PM

9. A few politicos did maybe, but time for the world to know now ... that's not going to sit

 

... well with the "southern states" (bet you didn't know about that one)
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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:53 PM

10. Are you implying that southern states are uninformed?

 

More than a few "politicos" know about 2012.
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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:55 PM

11. Nah, just Sanders campaign manager referrences in 16 which a lot of people don't know about

 

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Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:11 PM

40. Maybe but its not socialized among the "southern states" that Sanders wanted Obama challenge...

 

... time for it to become common knowledge no?

tia
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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:59 PM

14. Sanders supporters didn't just start struggling when Trump became president.

 

They were struggling through the Obama years, and it won't matter to them.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:46 PM

4. Might as well get used to it

 

The GOP will throw far nastier stuff than even Bloomberg will come up with - at any and all of our candidates. If any of them can't survive this, they won't survive in the GE
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Response to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:49 PM

8. I dunno, Bloomberg already used a couple "talking points" I've seen circulating...

 

...around RW groups. Calling Bernie a communist? Using the, "BuT hE hAs ThReE hOuSeS!!11!" line to try and discredit Bernie's fight against income and wealth inequality? I'm sure Bloomberg is just getting warmed up.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:58 PM

12. They will use everything Bloomie can come up, and then make up some of their own

 

Don't kid yourself, these are going to be a firehouse. Get used to hearing the word Communist, because whether you or I or anyone knows differently, won't matter in the least. The GOP will saturate the airwaves and the internet with the word, and whether in context or not, will take all these interviews and videos and weave their own story. Look what they've done already!! And most of the country i ill-prepared to deal with it.

I'm not justifying it, or liking it, just saying, get prepared, because we're still early in the pre-show, the main act hasn't even gotten warmed up yet
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:59 PM

15. And, TBH

 

I can't understand why having three houses isn't an issue for people wanting wealth quality. Do you have three houses? I sure the hell don't, and never will
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:15 PM

17. "I'm sure Bloomberg is just getting warmed up."

 

Let's hope so.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:45 PM

26. Yeah, I noticed that.

 

I'm sure those attacks will stop around here after he takes the lead on super Tuesday and those become rightwing talking points.
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Response to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:02 PM

47. Exactly

 

Can you imagine if the Reverend Wright videos had come out in the fall of 2008? That election might have gone a lot differently. I'd rather air every candidate's dirty laundry now and see who survives. Then all of the opposition research is old news by November.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:48 PM

5. Unless they're false, they're not "kitchen sinks" or attacks or smears.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:47 PM

28. you mean like this:

 


Team Bloomberg
@Mike2020
“Sure, Idi Amin ate people, but let’s not forget he was responsible for impressive growth in the
agriculture sector!” --- #BernieOnDespots
3:35 PM · Feb 24, 2020·Twitter Web App
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:54 PM

32. Clever - where's the rest of the tweet and the one introducing that? Definitely NOT what....

 

....Bloomberg is saying about what Sanders might have said.

This is the second time that tweet has been posted in the last few minutes. Hmmmm.
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Response to George II (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:59 PM

38. Isn't it obvious I'm not that savvy. lol. anyway the tweet says Bernie on despots.

 

me and you both know sanders didn't say those things but how many ppl do you think are already telling their friends these horrible things sanders has said about despots. hi speed - low information
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:38 PM

50. It actually says it in the tweet.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:48 PM

6. Unless an incumbent is running, it's always ugly.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:58 PM

13. Bloomberg is going to dump so much money against Bernie but ultimately

 

Bloomberg and Bernie reach very different audiences. Bloomberg’s got way more crap against him and this is starting to look very desperate. I expect it will backfire badly.

Biden going negative may have more sway picking off some older folks. But they are all getting mighty scared and flop sweat is never attractive. But it’s the primaries and expected.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:00 PM

16. +1000

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:17 PM

18. Spring training if he's to be the nominee

 

Might as well see what the kid's got.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:22 PM

20. Haha

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:27 PM

24. This is very true

 

Bernie fans should look at it positively.

A chance to truly stress test their client (btw when is he releasing his cardiac reports)?
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:18 PM

19. absolutely...

 

...BERNIE hasn't been given fair shake or treatment from the establishment ever...it's not going to begin now and it's only going to get worse...

...but fret not, stay focused, WE THE PEOPLE are on a roll...let them throw what they want at us, WE can handle it...

...we're not blind nor impotent...we've got the ideas, the money, the People and BERNIE to lead the fight...we'll navigate through the rough troubled establishment waters ahead and we'll win in November...no one said this was going to be easy...

...real change never is...but for god sake, we have a real revolution underway with a strong charismatic leader and this time we shall not be denied...

...BERNIE has shown us the way to fight to win, and win we shall...

...win we must...for our future and the future of this planet depends upon it...

...bring it on!

...with our help, WE and BERNIE can do it...guaranteed...
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Response to myohmy2 (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:27 PM

49. ...you mean the "establishment" that allows him to run on the Democratic ticket?....

 

.....after he has insulted the party for decades?...

....knowing full well he won't even bother to vote as one?.....

...and allows him to caucus with them, giving him a stronger voice?....

... they just won't ever give him a break!....

.... .....

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:23 PM

21. I honestly feel like this forum has been invaded by Russians.

 

The amount of hate directed at Bernie over the dumbest things is truly astounding. And 99% of it is coming from Biden supporters. It's really turning me off Biden entirely.
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Response to OliverQ (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:41 PM

25. I thought Russia supported Bernie? n/t

 

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Response to zackymilly (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:32 PM

43. No, Russia supports Trump and sowing chaos.

 

That's what is happening with all the Bernie bashing.
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Response to OliverQ (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:26 PM

48. So you want to dismiss the intelligence community when it reports something that

 

makes you sad?

That doesn't put you in very good company.



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Response to OliverQ (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:55 PM

34. You mean the whole site, or just this forum? Interesting.

 

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:30 PM

41. Just the primary forum.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:24 PM

22. Good. Get the oppo out of the way now.

 

So that when the Fall campaign starts, it will be about the issues.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:25 PM

23. I just need him to explain ...

 

The nudey Russian vodka party.

Kinky stuff and nothing illegal for sure, but its not gonna play well in our mid-west states.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:46 PM

27. Its called vetting.

 

Best do it now before its too late.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:52 PM

30. I'd like Bernie to explain why he sat on the Russia helping him story for a month

 

That one needs some Bern-splaining!
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Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:55 PM

33. It was classified information that got leaked.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:56 PM

35. Ok. If he couldn't reveal it until it was leaked, that is reasonable. n/t

 

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Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:57 PM

36. Why did president Obama sit on the information that Russia was messing with our

 

elections ???

Mitch McConnell threatened him.

Why didn't he speak up after he was threatened ???

I wasn't in Obama's shoes and I'm not in Bernie's shoes.
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Response to SamKnause (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:59 PM

37. There's a better answer posted.

 

B/t/w Obama didn't benefit, did he?

If Bernie was prohibited from revealing Russia supporting him as required by law, that I can buy.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:54 PM

31. Bring it on.

 

Bernie can handle this.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:31 PM

42. Um... if Bloomberg really attacks Sanders and not Trump, then he is an idiot.

 

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:37 PM

45. It's his plan. I think it's going to backfire badly. Bloomberg has tons of baggage and he's not

 

someone who seems authentic. Part of why lots of stuff gets thrown at Bernie and doesn't seem to stick isn't that there hasn't been vetting - it's that for 40 years he has established an authenticity that many people (maybe not on DU- but in real world) like and respect.

I do see why Biden feels the need to attack - he's really got to win SC and he is doing what he needs to do. Its primary season and expected and I'm sure Bernie and Joe both know it's coming. It will probably pull some older voters and some black voters that were toying with Sanders into the Biden camp and put SC in Biden's column.

But honestly, I think Warren, Buttigieg and Klobachar aren't going to gain much by going after Bernie. Sanders supporters more than likely would have left for Warren if they were going to. Sanders supporters aren't likely to move into the Pete or Amy camp. They need to pull from eachother's camp - and from Bloomberg's if they want to stay in the race.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:34 PM

44. Bloomberg should focus his ire and money on Trump.

 

That’s the one good thing he could do for Democrats.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:48 PM

46. Bernie should have kept his word on the release of his private info.

 

This could be helpful on some of the credibility issues that may arise via "kitchen sink".
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