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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:34 PM Feb 2020

All Russia cares about is sowing chaos and division among Americans.

Russia doesn't care what the result of the election is, all they want to do is divide the American people and grind our political system to a halt. By making it known they are "supporting" Sanders, they have successfully outraged a significant number of people. There are already posts on this forum questioning the results of the election if Bernie becomes the nominee. This is exactly what Putin wants. Time to take a step back and breathe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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All Russia cares about is sowing chaos and division among Americans. (Original Post) HerbChestnut Feb 2020 OP
They have done a great job too marlakay Feb 2020 #1
of course Russia cares about the results of the election Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #2
Encourging (R's) to crossover and vote for Bernie TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #3
Then Bernie should have let it be known Russia was helping him. boston bean Feb 2020 #4
All russia cares about is getting trump rigged in like the Cha Feb 2020 #5
No, that's not "all" Russia cares about Mike 03 Feb 2020 #6
+1000 NT Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #9
Yep Martin Eden Feb 2020 #18
They sure as hell DO care about the results, elleng Feb 2020 #7
Oh bullshit. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #8
Yes, I agree, absolutely correct relayerbob Feb 2020 #10
"the GOP can say they told Sanders about it" TwilightZone Feb 2020 #14
End result is the same relayerbob Feb 2020 #15
No, it's not. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #16
Well as they say, we often give the advice we most need to take. Anon-C Feb 2020 #11
They're not supporting him for President DrToast Feb 2020 #12
They also helped him in 2016... Just sayin' Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #13
Correct. DanTex Feb 2020 #17
Wired Magazine just wrote about it: Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #19
 

marlakay

(11,431 posts)
1. They have done a great job too
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:36 PM
Feb 2020

Right and left can barely speak to each other, progressives and moderates tolerate barely each other sometimes.

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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
2. of course Russia cares about the results of the election
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:36 PM
Feb 2020

look at the russian economy, based on fossil fuels.
look at the advantages russia will reap in a global warming world.

Russia doesn't want reduction in fossil fuels, russia doesn't want effective reversal of global warming.


the chaos and division are merely the cherry on top of the whipped cream.

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TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
3. Encourging (R's) to crossover and vote for Bernie
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:37 PM
Feb 2020

in the primary sets up good chances for a Trump re-election.

Great, huh.

We're so screwn.

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boston bean

(36,219 posts)
4. Then Bernie should have let it be known Russia was helping him.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(296,875 posts)
5. All russia cares about is getting trump rigged in like the
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:38 PM
Feb 2020

last ******* time

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
6. No, that's not "all" Russia cares about
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
Feb 2020

They care about the US leaving them alone in Ukraine
Us getting out of NATO
Us getting out of South Korea
Russia would like us out of Afghanistan
Getting out of Syria
Removing sanctions, especially the Magnitsky Act
Leaving them alone in the Arctic
Terminating our agreements with other developing nations so that they can fill the void left by our absence
Generally, weakening out international presence and authority
Not participating in climate action, so it gives them cover to do the same
Weakening out strong ties with European nations (See "NATO" above)

And probably a dozen other things Fiona Hill could explain to us.

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Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
18. Yep
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:32 PM
Feb 2020

I scanned other replies before posting some of that.

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elleng

(130,760 posts)
7. They sure as hell DO care about the results,
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM
Feb 2020

it's ridiculous to not recognize that.

Chaos is russians' and trump's preferred m.o.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,840 posts)
8. Oh bullshit.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM
Feb 2020

All Russia cares about is getting their puppet elected (mission accomplished) and reelected (pending) so that he can continue to do Putin's bidding from our White House.

They will support whoever can help them accomplish that and attack whoever they view as an impediment to that.

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relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
10. Yes, I agree, absolutely correct
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM
Feb 2020

The story may or may not even be true, as long as the GOP can say they told Sanders about it, and "leak" the story. Then, pretend to be outraged. Causes even more chaos in the Dems, casts more doubt on the elections, and will allow Trump to claim, in the event of a Sanders victory, that it's rigged and fake, and refuse to leave office.

Insidious, and the GOP is completely complicit in this treason. The whole bloody lot of 'em.

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TwilightZone

(25,429 posts)
14. "the GOP can say they told Sanders about it"
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:31 PM
Feb 2020

It wasn't the GOP, it was US intelligence sources.

Sanders also acknowledged that Russia was trying to interfere in the statement he released, so apparently he was convinced that there was evidence of same.

Conspiracy theories aren't required when reality isn't that complicated.

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relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
15. End result is the same
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:46 PM
Feb 2020

A difference without a distinction

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TwilightZone

(25,429 posts)
16. No, it's not.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:52 PM
Feb 2020

One is true; one is false.

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Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
11. Well as they say, we often give the advice we most need to take.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:47 PM
Feb 2020
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DrToast

(6,414 posts)
12. They're not supporting him for President
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020

They’re supporting him to run against Trump because they think Trump will beat him.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
13. They also helped him in 2016... Just sayin'
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:51 PM
Feb 2020
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