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brooklynite

(94,549 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:33 PM Feb 2020

Harry Reid on 'Medicare for All': 'Not a chance in hell it would pass'

The Hill

Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) criticized Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I-Vt.) signature "Medicare for All" health care plan ahead of Wednesday night's Democratic presidential primary debate in Las Vegas.

While Reid said during an interview with ABC News's Rick Klein that he thinks "the world of Bernie Sanders," he called the progressive senator's health care plan "impractical."

"There’s not a chance in hell it would pass," Reid said in the podcast interview.

Reid has spoken out about Medicare for All in the past, telling Vice last year he didn't think the plan could pass and that Democrats should instead focus on strengthening the Affordable Care Act.


Well, what does he know...
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Harry Reid on 'Medicare for All': 'Not a chance in hell it would pass' (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
The current dysfunctional system is very healthy. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #1
Can you point out a candidate who supports keeping "the current dysfunctional system"? brooklynite Feb 2020 #7
They do not frame it that way. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #8
Every civilized country has something like it. FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #2
right NJCher Feb 2020 #3
Uh, he HAS CANCER HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #9
it is your comment that is moronic NJCher Feb 2020 #10
Your comment was disgusting. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #11
awww NJCher Feb 2020 #14
When you make a point coherency is a good start. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #17
also NJCher Feb 2020 #15
Maybe you should gain an understanding of how our government works HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #16
No we can't! jalan48 Feb 2020 #4
I'm beginning to think that we need TERM LIMITS Dan Feb 2020 #5
Only if you can term limit the lobbiests, staffers, etc. FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #6
It. Does. Not. Matter. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #12
It probably won't pass right away. But if President Sanders keeps plugging away at it and totodeinhere Feb 2020 #13
Wrong answer. ALL Dems should support it. BeckyDem Feb 2020 #18
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. The current dysfunctional system is very healthy.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:37 PM
Feb 2020

Well, the industry profits are very healthy.

USA #37 is not a very inspiring slogan.

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brooklynite

(94,549 posts)
7. Can you point out a candidate who supports keeping "the current dysfunctional system"?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. They do not frame it that way.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020

But any approach that allows the healthcare industries to control access and control prices cannot fix the real problems with the US system.

And these industries will fight any attempt at changing the system. Witness their spending to demonize the idea of MFA.

And their propaganda that a single payer system will be more expensive than the current system, when all of the evidence from every country with a single payer system shows the exact opposite.

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FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
2. Every civilized country has something like it.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020

We're not a civilized country because we keep listening to these assholes.

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NJCher

(35,669 posts)
3. right
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:40 PM
Feb 2020

I'm pretty sure he's out of touch, possibly suffering some old age thinking problems.

Still, ya' gotta' love the naysayers. Going back to the beginnings of Bernie's campaign for the presidency, he has moved mountains.



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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
9. Uh, he HAS CANCER
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:11 PM
Feb 2020

It’s not old age thinking problems. What a moronic comment. And he did more for this country in the senate than Bernie could have dreamed of.

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NJCher

(35,669 posts)
10. it is your comment that is moronic
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:15 PM
Feb 2020

cancer and old age thinking problems are not mutually exclusive. One can have both.

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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
11. Your comment was disgusting.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020

But given the candidate involved I’m not surprised. Seems to be a thing.

It’s not a Harry Reid’s fault you don’t know how majorities in the senate work.

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NJCher

(35,669 posts)
14. awww
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020

Guess you aren't aware that people like Harry Reid have been in the frying pan so long that such comments roll right off their back. Anyway, who are you to set yourself up as the defender of Harry Reid? Harry Reid doesn't need you looking after him. I'm quite sure he can take care of himself.

Prejudice much?

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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
17. When you make a point coherency is a good start.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020

I’ve got no fucking idea what you’re bleating about here.

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NJCher

(35,669 posts)
15. also
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:50 PM
Feb 2020

Where do you get that I said it was Harry Reid's fault? Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem?

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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
16. Maybe you should gain an understanding of how our government works
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:25 PM
Feb 2020

President Bernie, if by some miracle he beat Trump, would need a super majority in the senate to pass his m4a. He’s not going to get that. None of the candidates are going to be working with a super majority if elected. That was Reid’s point. He made that point because he was in the senate for a long time and knows how it works. Not because he’s a sick, senile old man, as you are inferring.

So not only was your comment disgusting, it was comically uninformed.

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Dan

(3,562 posts)
5. I'm beginning to think that we need TERM LIMITS
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:50 PM
Feb 2020

And kick all their asses out after two terms, D and R.

Let’s get back to a government of the people by the people.

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FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
6. Only if you can term limit the lobbiests, staffers, etc.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:03 PM
Feb 2020

Otherwise, the elected officials will always be the newbies and they'll always be at the mercy of the more experienced.

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Tom Rinaldo

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12. It. Does. Not. Matter.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:34 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not saying that the future of health care in America doesn't mater, I'm saying that the chance of Medicare for All passing through the next Congress doesn't matter. But for starters, assuming Sanders becomes President, that shuffles the deck completely. The influence that Bernie Sanders has today as one member of the Senate Democratic Caucus is germane so long as he continues to be just one member of the Democratic Caucus in the Senate. Any President has chips to play that only become his or hers after they win that office, but even more to the point, if Bernie Sanders actually wins the Presidential elections suddenly a lot of former calculations would have to be revisited about what is and is not possible in America today.

But the even bigger point is this. President Sanders would not repeal Obamacare before he had the votes to replace it with something better. He is a Democratic candidate for President, not the Republican one. Since when do Democrats stop fighting for social and economic justice anytime the current political lineup denies them the ability to implement it?

Do we have the votes today to pass a Constitutional Amendment to over rule "Citizens United"? No? Then why do Democrats still advocate for doing just that? You work toward an ambitious goal by making the case for that ambitious goal and doing the hard work to make progress toward that goal. Would Gay Marriage have received national support twenty years ago? Does that mean that Gay advocates were foolish to keep pushing for it, for making the fundamental case that justice ultimately required that outcome?

I want a President who fights for what is best and then locks in whatever advances are possible in the short term without surrendering the vision that we should all believe in. When it finally came to it, Bernie Sanders - long time advocate for Single Payer Universal Health Care, voted for the Affordable Care Act. He voted for it even though the Public Option was stripped out of the final version. He locked in an advance and continues to fight for something even better. That is my kind of leadership.

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totodeinhere

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13. It probably won't pass right away. But if President Sanders keeps plugging away at it and
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:37 PM
Feb 2020

if we can take back control of the Senate then it may well pass before Bernie's term ends. I know those are a of if's but I do think it's the right thing to do and we need to try.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
18. Wrong answer. ALL Dems should support it.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020
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