Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHarry Reid on 'Medicare for All': 'Not a chance in hell it would pass'
The HillWhile Reid said during an interview with ABC News's Rick Klein that he thinks "the world of Bernie Sanders," he called the progressive senator's health care plan "impractical."
"Theres not a chance in hell it would pass," Reid said in the podcast interview.
Reid has spoken out about Medicare for All in the past, telling Vice last year he didn't think the plan could pass and that Democrats should instead focus on strengthening the Affordable Care Act.
Well, what does he know...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Well, the industry profits are very healthy.
USA #37 is not a very inspiring slogan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,549 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But any approach that allows the healthcare industries to control access and control prices cannot fix the real problems with the US system.
And these industries will fight any attempt at changing the system. Witness their spending to demonize the idea of MFA.
And their propaganda that a single payer system will be more expensive than the current system, when all of the evidence from every country with a single payer system shows the exact opposite.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)We're not a civilized country because we keep listening to these assholes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NJCher
(35,669 posts)I'm pretty sure he's out of touch, possibly suffering some old age thinking problems.
Still, ya' gotta' love the naysayers. Going back to the beginnings of Bernie's campaign for the presidency, he has moved mountains.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Its not old age thinking problems. What a moronic comment. And he did more for this country in the senate than Bernie could have dreamed of.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,669 posts)cancer and old age thinking problems are not mutually exclusive. One can have both.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)But given the candidate involved Im not surprised. Seems to be a thing.
Its not a Harry Reids fault you dont know how majorities in the senate work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,669 posts)Guess you aren't aware that people like Harry Reid have been in the frying pan so long that such comments roll right off their back. Anyway, who are you to set yourself up as the defender of Harry Reid? Harry Reid doesn't need you looking after him. I'm quite sure he can take care of himself.
Prejudice much?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Ive got no fucking idea what youre bleating about here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,669 posts)Where do you get that I said it was Harry Reid's fault? Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)President Bernie, if by some miracle he beat Trump, would need a super majority in the senate to pass his m4a. Hes not going to get that. None of the candidates are going to be working with a super majority if elected. That was Reids point. He made that point because he was in the senate for a long time and knows how it works. Not because hes a sick, senile old man, as you are inferring.
So not only was your comment disgusting, it was comically uninformed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,864 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dan
(3,562 posts)And kick all their asses out after two terms, D and R.
Lets get back to a government of the people by the people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Otherwise, the elected officials will always be the newbies and they'll always be at the mercy of the more experienced.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)I'm not saying that the future of health care in America doesn't mater, I'm saying that the chance of Medicare for All passing through the next Congress doesn't matter. But for starters, assuming Sanders becomes President, that shuffles the deck completely. The influence that Bernie Sanders has today as one member of the Senate Democratic Caucus is germane so long as he continues to be just one member of the Democratic Caucus in the Senate. Any President has chips to play that only become his or hers after they win that office, but even more to the point, if Bernie Sanders actually wins the Presidential elections suddenly a lot of former calculations would have to be revisited about what is and is not possible in America today.
But the even bigger point is this. President Sanders would not repeal Obamacare before he had the votes to replace it with something better. He is a Democratic candidate for President, not the Republican one. Since when do Democrats stop fighting for social and economic justice anytime the current political lineup denies them the ability to implement it?
Do we have the votes today to pass a Constitutional Amendment to over rule "Citizens United"? No? Then why do Democrats still advocate for doing just that? You work toward an ambitious goal by making the case for that ambitious goal and doing the hard work to make progress toward that goal. Would Gay Marriage have received national support twenty years ago? Does that mean that Gay advocates were foolish to keep pushing for it, for making the fundamental case that justice ultimately required that outcome?
I want a President who fights for what is best and then locks in whatever advances are possible in the short term without surrendering the vision that we should all believe in. When it finally came to it, Bernie Sanders - long time advocate for Single Payer Universal Health Care, voted for the Affordable Care Act. He voted for it even though the Public Option was stripped out of the final version. He locked in an advance and continues to fight for something even better. That is my kind of leadership.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)if we can take back control of the Senate then it may well pass before Bernie's term ends. I know those are a of if's but I do think it's the right thing to do and we need to try.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden