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Asking about Bernie Sanders' medical condition is a "smear campaign" (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Nope RandySF Feb 2020 #1
Nice deflection there PatSeg Feb 2020 #2
That's exactly what it looks like. I'm glad that people are catching on. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #4
Ha! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #5
I favor all of the candidates releasing thier medical records, dware Feb 2020 #6
"I can't get hired to do a stupid fucking movie without a medical exam.." Cha Feb 2020 #23
Wow!! dware Feb 2020 #27
You're Welcome, dware.. Cha Feb 2020 #34
bribri knows a lot about smear campaigns. lapucelle Feb 2020 #7
So sad.. Cha Feb 2020 #35
About what I'd expect from his campaign. Is she the Kelly Anne Conway of the left? apcalc Feb 2020 #8
Sure does. I think it's brave to say it. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #28
+1 we need to keep at it, don't let up my friend apcalc Feb 2020 #45
Amy is a okay for me, too. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #46
I see no problem asking all of the candidates for their health records. 33taw Feb 2020 #9
She also claimed it was akin to birtherism mcar Feb 2020 #10
President Obama Released the Long Forrm of his Birth Certificate, Cha Feb 2020 #31
There is nothing wrong with voters wanting to make sure... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #11
To see the toll it takes on a person, dware Feb 2020 #15
They never stop. Squinch Feb 2020 #12
He had a heart attack and the waters parted. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #13
He released as much as Biden and Liz did. If that's not good enough for the media fuck em. Autumn Feb 2020 #14
That makes lying about Bloomberg OK? TwilightZone Feb 2020 #16
That makes lying about Bernie OK? Autumn Feb 2020 #19
"Bernie Sanders Promised to Release 'All the Medical Records' Following Heart Attack" Cha Feb 2020 #29
Anything negative about Sanders is "a smear campaign" but anything negative about anybody else is gollygee Feb 2020 #17
If we keep Turbineguy Feb 2020 #18
Bloomberg has two stents. Let's see his medical records. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #20
Let's see all of the candidates records. dware Feb 2020 #24
He released what Biden and Warren released. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #26
That's not what I asked, dware Feb 2020 #30
I have no idea if they did or didn't. How can I answer that? Do they get asked about Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #32
Here's a clue, dware Feb 2020 #37
Oh okay. If that's what a reasonable person concludes then Sanders will not win Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #40
Reasonable people, like yourself, dware Feb 2020 #41
That's me. Reasonable! Let's hope we stay that way thru the Primaries. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #44
No, it's called concern about the health of the man who may be elected to lead the country. Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #21
I've made by peace with Democratic Presidential candidates in their mid to late 70's Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #22
Liars and Propagandists.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #25
Dear Dems.... berksdem Feb 2020 #33
Dear Dems, Please don't make both of us vote for Bernie. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #47
right there with you LakeArenal! berksdem Feb 2020 #49
No, the equivalent of a flight physical. gordianot Feb 2020 #36
What a difference four years has made here at DU Jake Stern Feb 2020 #38
The problem being that Bernie said he would release his records, dware Feb 2020 #39
No the problem is the rank hypocrisy Jake Stern Feb 2020 #42
Well, for the record, dware Feb 2020 #43
please state the date Hillary had a heart attack dsc Feb 2020 #48
That's not true showblue22 Feb 2020 #51
Hillary's records are Transparent.. everyone running for president Shoud BE Cha Feb 2020 #53
It should scare DU to fucking death that Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #50
Tulsi Gabbard? Oh great. dem4decades Feb 2020 #52
 

PatSeg

(47,892 posts)
2. Nice deflection there
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:28 AM
Feb 2020

but it only makes it look more like Sanders has something to hide.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. That's exactly what it looks like. I'm glad that people are catching on.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:30 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

dware

(12,607 posts)
6. I favor all of the candidates releasing thier medical records,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:31 AM
Feb 2020

the fact that Bernie promised to, then refused to, suggests that there's something in there that he doesn't want the public to see which casts doubt on his viability to be president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(298,462 posts)
23. "I can't get hired to do a stupid fucking movie without a medical exam.."
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:43 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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dware

(12,607 posts)
27. Wow!!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:47 AM
Feb 2020

I didn't know that about the movie industry.

The same should absolutely apply to any Presidential candidate, especially one that had a heart attack while campaigning.
It leads me to believe that there is something there that would sink his candidacy.

Thank you Cha for this info.

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Cha

(298,462 posts)
34. You're Welcome, dware..
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:53 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,427 posts)
7. bribri knows a lot about smear campaigns.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:32 AM
Feb 2020


*****************************************************************************************

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
8. About what I'd expect from his campaign. Is she the Kelly Anne Conway of the left?
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:32 AM
Feb 2020

More hidden stuff. No thank you. Smacks of Trump.

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LakeArenal

(28,938 posts)
28. Sure does. I think it's brave to say it.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:48 AM
Feb 2020

Thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
45. +1 we need to keep at it, don't let up my friend
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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LakeArenal

(28,938 posts)
46. Amy is a okay for me, too.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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33taw

(2,454 posts)
9. I see no problem asking all of the candidates for their health records.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:32 AM
Feb 2020

If they choose not to provide them, I would wonder why.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,530 posts)
10. She also claimed it was akin to birtherism
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:33 AM
Feb 2020


And:


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Sanders spokesperson, who voted for Jill Stein in 2016, says Hillary was simply “the lesser of two evils” vs Trump.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(298,462 posts)
31. President Obama Released the Long Forrm of his Birth Certificate,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:51 AM
Feb 2020

3rd party stein voter.. that's an open post to BJG.

Hey... thank you, mcar!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
11. There is nothing wrong with voters wanting to make sure...
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:33 AM
Feb 2020

that a candidate will be able to take the stress of being President for 4 to 8 years. I mean, look at Trump. He's become a blubbering idiot. Wait, he was already that way? Seriously?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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dware

(12,607 posts)
15. To see the toll it takes on a person,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:37 AM
Feb 2020

all one needs to do is look at before and after pictures of President GW Bush and President Obama, you can see the aging process right before your very eyes.








If I were to vote in a presidential
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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
13. He had a heart attack and the waters parted.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:34 AM
Feb 2020

He is ready to slay Goliath now.

Just trust them.

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
14. He released as much as Biden and Liz did. If that's not good enough for the media fuck em.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:35 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(25,558 posts)
16. That makes lying about Bloomberg OK?
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:38 AM
Feb 2020

Right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
19. That makes lying about Bernie OK?
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:41 AM
Feb 2020

Right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(298,462 posts)
29. "Bernie Sanders Promised to Release 'All the Medical Records' Following Heart Attack"
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:49 AM
Feb 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287404845

Bernie Sanders promised to disclose his medical records. What happened?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287407962
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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. Anything negative about Sanders is "a smear campaign" but anything negative about anybody else is
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:38 AM
Feb 2020

"discussing the issues."

Learn the rules!

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Turbineguy

(37,471 posts)
18. If we keep
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:39 AM
Feb 2020

finding reasons not to vote for Democrats, great!

We can keep trump and help the GOP destroy the country.

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Nanjeanne

(5,022 posts)
20. Bloomberg has two stents. Let's see his medical records.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:41 AM
Feb 2020

Also read through this physicians 20 tweet thread explaining what the letters by Sanders doctors actually details.

In the thread you can also see his analysis of the Biden letters and the Warren letters.

Very interesting and comprehensive analysis of the information the three candidates provided



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,607 posts)
24. Let's see all of the candidates records.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:44 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie saying he would release them, then refuse to makes it seem there's something there he doesn't want the public to see.

Has any of the other candidates said they'll release their medical records and then refused to release?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(5,022 posts)
26. He released what Biden and Warren released.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:45 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,607 posts)
30. That's not what I asked,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:49 AM
Feb 2020

Has any other candidate said they'll release their records and then refused to?
it's a simple yes or no question.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Nanjeanne

(5,022 posts)
32. I have no idea if they did or didn't. How can I answer that? Do they get asked about
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:52 AM
Feb 2020

it continually in interviews. Is the twitter universe asking every candidate.

I don’t read every single thing about every single candidate so how can I answer your question. Better yet, do I even care about it? I’m fine with what the 3 candidates released. There’s lots of comprehensive info in there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,607 posts)
37. Here's a clue,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
Feb 2020

no other Democratic Presidential candidate, other than Bernie, has said they'll release their medical records, then refused to.

That would lead a reasonable person to believe that there's something in those records that Bernie doesn't want the public to see, something that might sink his candidacy on the spot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(5,022 posts)
40. Oh okay. If that's what a reasonable person concludes then Sanders will not win
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:03 AM
Feb 2020

the nom and you can relax and stop beating the drum. All is good. Reasonable people after all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,607 posts)
41. Reasonable people, like yourself,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:05 AM
Feb 2020

can disagree and still remain cordial, as you have done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(5,022 posts)
44. That's me. Reasonable! Let's hope we stay that way thru the Primaries.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:33 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Arkansas Granny

(31,553 posts)
21. No, it's called concern about the health of the man who may be elected to lead the country.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:41 AM
Feb 2020

I think all candidates should release their medical records. It doesn't have to be in great detail, just enough to make sure they are physically fit for a demanding job.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,919 posts)
22. I've made by peace with Democratic Presidential candidates in their mid to late 70's
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:42 AM
Feb 2020

The top three polling in the race so far are mid to late 70's males. And in that age group a previously unknown heart issue could emerge for any of them at any time. Fortunately in many cases, with today's medical advances, treatments can be effective at greatly prolonging life. But all of these men, IMO, can be called "at risk". Bill Clinton had serious heart issues, after he left office, that emerged while he was campaigning for John Kerry:

"He was transferred to Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center in New York City, where he underwent a successful on-pump quadruple coronary artery bypass surgery on September 6, 2004. The medical team stated, had he not had surgery, he would have likely suffered a massive heart attack within a few months".

That's 16 years and counting. I will note with no great pleasure that Dick Cheney is also still with us today.

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Happy Hoosier

(7,526 posts)
25. Liars and Propagandists....
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:44 AM
Feb 2020

I don't understand how so many in party are getting conned by this.... totally depressing.

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berksdem

(607 posts)
33. Dear Dems....
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:52 AM
Feb 2020

please dontt make me vote for Bernie.

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LakeArenal

(28,938 posts)
47. Dear Dems, Please don't make both of us vote for Bernie.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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berksdem

(607 posts)
49. right there with you LakeArenal!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020
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gordianot

(15,276 posts)
36. No, the equivalent of a flight physical.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
Feb 2020

No one would ever want me to pilot a plane driving a car is a risk I avoid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
38. What a difference four years has made here at DU
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:57 AM
Feb 2020

2016: “Hillary’s medical records are nobody’s business! Shame on people for hounding her over her health!”

2020: “Bernie must release his medical records or else he’s hiding something!”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,607 posts)
39. The problem being that Bernie said he would release his records,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:01 AM
Feb 2020

then he had a heart attack and is now refusing to release those records, that would lead a reasonable person to believe that there's something in those records that would possibly end his candidacy.

I favor all the candidates releasing their medical records and let the chips fall where they may.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
42. No the problem is the rank hypocrisy
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:11 AM
Feb 2020

My beef is that I see names on this list that back in 2016 were loudly criticizing people who questioned Hillary’s health and were asking for her medical records. The same ones who now are demanding Bernie release his.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,607 posts)
43. Well, for the record,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:15 AM
Feb 2020

I wasn't one of those people, I was still on hiatus from DU.

As I said, I favor all candidates releasing their med. records.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dsc

(52,187 posts)
48. please state the date Hillary had a heart attack
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:27 PM
Feb 2020

I'll wait.

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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
51. That's not true
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:49 PM
Feb 2020

Hillary was always very transparent with her medical records as well as her taxes. More transparent than anyone currently running.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(298,462 posts)
53. Hillary's records are Transparent.. everyone running for president Shoud BE
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 07:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
50. It should scare DU to fucking death that
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:48 PM
Feb 2020

1. Sanders has pretty much said "fuck it" and decided to be the "Trump" of this race and adopt his strategy to the letter... The only difference is he's putting a nicer liberal gift wrap on it.

2. These sycophants and lackeys running his campaign will be running the White House if he wins. I thought we were supposed to be bringing competence and respect for truth back?

3. If Sanders wins, we'll only be one heart attack away from President Tulsi Gabbard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

dem4decades

(11,337 posts)
52. Tulsi Gabbard? Oh great.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020
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