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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:56 PM Feb 2020

New Nevada Poll: Bernie 35, Elizabeth 16, Pete 15, Joe 14

https://www.dataforprogress.org/memos/sanders-has-strong-lead-in-nevada

Key Findings:

Senator Bernie Sanders has a commanding nineteen point in the Nevada caucus, with 35 percent of likely caucusgoers supporting him. He is followed by Senator Elizabeth Warren, former Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Former Vice President Joe Biden who are all tightly clustered at 16, 15 and 14 percentage points, respectively.

Senator Amy Klobuchar, whose third place finish in the New Hampshire primary garnered considerable media coverage sits in sixth place with 9 percent of likely caucusgoers supporting her.

Sanders performs extremely well with Hispanic likely caucusgoers, registering 66 percent support, with no other candidate cracking double digits. He continues to see strong support among younger voters, with likely caucusgoers under 45 supporting him at 64 percent. Of those who have made up their mind, Sanders registers 47 percent support.

Democratic voters strongly support both Medicare for All (69 percent in support, 23 percent opposed) and a Green New Deal (93 percent in support, 6 percent opposed).
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New Nevada Poll: Bernie 35, Elizabeth 16, Pete 15, Joe 14 (Original Post) HerbChestnut Feb 2020 OP
he's creeping up, now only 65% of ppl do not want him lol nt msongs Feb 2020 #1
And even *more* people don't want each of the *other* candidates. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #7
I actually thought the comment you replied to was by someone joking about those types of comments. David__77 Feb 2020 #34
It's not a joke. They repeat it over and over again in every BS thread. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #43
Considering how many canddiates remain in the filed I think it's remarkable that totodeinhere Feb 2020 #19
And 86% of people don't want Biden. OliverQ Feb 2020 #31
This argument is SO BORING and overplayed. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #42
Data for progress? rwheeler31 Feb 2020 #2
Yes, it's a pro-Sanders think tank. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #4
Are you sure about that? progressoid Feb 2020 #32
+1000 UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #6
They've been pretty good so far. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #8
. Deero Feb 2020 #39
Is that this poll? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #3
Yep. Turns out they're a pretty good pollster judging by results in Iowa and NH. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #10
If Pete gets another 2nd place finish LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #5
Even that poll shows some serious prolems for Pete judeling Feb 2020 #18
If the poll holds up LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #44
Same with Pete. judeling Feb 2020 #45
I will be the first to say Pete should drop when the times comes LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #48
Because I believ right now Pete's numbers are inflated. judeling Feb 2020 #49
so what is the excuse for Biden doing so poorly then? LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #50
Biden was directly tied to the Trial judeling Feb 2020 #51
I agree customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #25
Not "another" second place finish, he finished first in the two states that have voted. George II Feb 2020 #33
He finished 2nd in NH? LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #41
He finished first in both IA and NH (tied for 1st). George II Feb 2020 #46
I could live with those results nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #9
Over 30,000 new Latinos have registered to vote in Nevada Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #11
Nice. Nt Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #29
Just read the poll and forget the provider for a moment. judeling Feb 2020 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #13
That's 22% more than the other one posted today that had Bernie at 13%. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #14
Yep, and this pollster has been pretty good so far according to results in Iowa and NH. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #15
I was surprised to see him only 1 point behind Biden with moderates. Yay Bernie! floppyboo Feb 2020 #16
Rcp avg now has Sanders up + 9.0 Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #17
Indeed! I am so happy for everyone who has worked so hard! floppyboo Feb 2020 #20
Warren coming back and I'm glad they took in the lunasun Feb 2020 #21
Data for Progress conducts it's poll via text messages!!! George II Feb 2020 #22
Great so Sanders supporters Moderateguy Feb 2020 #23
Wow!! HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #24
and its founders a left wing activists with an agenda still_one Feb 2020 #27
Data for Progress? No bias with that poll I am sure still_one Feb 2020 #26
No bias whatsoever: George II Feb 2020 #28
I will rely on the other polls, whose organizations don't have a political agenda still_one Feb 2020 #30
Here comes Pete! nt BootinUp Feb 2020 #35
This polling company had Sanders. Winning NH 28 to 26 over Pete Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #36
Yup, they've been one of the most accurate pollsters so far. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #37
Yeah excellent polling so far by this pollster. dbolski Feb 2020 #38
I think both polls today were wrong squirecam Feb 2020 #40
If Biden isn't viable, that'll kill his campaign. brooklynite Feb 2020 #47
 

msongs

(67,366 posts)
1. he's creeping up, now only 65% of ppl do not want him lol nt
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
7. And even *more* people don't want each of the *other* candidates.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:06 PM
Feb 2020

Not sure there's much there to LOL about.

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David__77

(23,334 posts)
34. I actually thought the comment you replied to was by someone joking about those types of comments.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:00 PM
Feb 2020

...

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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
43. It's not a joke. They repeat it over and over again in every BS thread.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
19. Considering how many canddiates remain in the filed I think it's remarkable that
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:27 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie is able to reach this level of support assuming the poll is accurate.

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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
31. And 86% of people don't want Biden.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:03 PM
Feb 2020
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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
42. This argument is SO BORING and overplayed.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:57 PM
Feb 2020

And totally incorrect. But you’ll keep repeating it like a parrot because that’s what you do.

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rwheeler31

(6,242 posts)
2. Data for progress?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:02 PM
Feb 2020

Is this a Sanders outfit?

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
4. Yes, it's a pro-Sanders think tank.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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progressoid

(49,951 posts)
32. Are you sure about that?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:07 PM
Feb 2020

Sean McElwee: co-founder and Executive Director

McElwee believes that the party needs more AOCs and Ayanna Pressleys and fewer Bernies. “The path to leftist electoral power is through racial justice and economic justice,” he told me. “Our gains on the left have exclusively come from more diverse candidates.”


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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
8. They've been pretty good so far.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:07 PM
Feb 2020

Their Iowa and NH polls were some of the more accurate ones compared to other pollsters.

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Deero

(86 posts)
39. .
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:50 PM
Feb 2020

NH was pretty good. Iowa was meh.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
10. Yep. Turns out they're a pretty good pollster judging by results in Iowa and NH.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:08 PM
Feb 2020
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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
5. If Pete gets another 2nd place finish
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:05 PM
Feb 2020

He could really have a shot at this . Seems like the more the voters hear him and get to know him they support him. Every where he goes his numbers go up.

No disrespect to Joe but his numbers go down Wherever he goes.

It’s becoming pretty clear Pete should be the “moderate” candidate left standing in this race.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
18. Even that poll shows some serious prolems for Pete
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:26 PM
Feb 2020

His favorable is continuing to fall, as is his consideration for second choice and except for Gabbard his Hispanic support is the worst.

I'm not saying this poll is bad for him but the are some warning signs.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
44. If the poll holds up
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:59 PM
Feb 2020

And Amy finishes in 6th place can we all agree it’s time to hang it up?

The field needs to narrow and soon

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
45. Same with Pete.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:11 AM
Feb 2020

We will have to see what happens.

I certainly believe Pete will be gone before Amy.
The biggest problem with this poll is it pushes to hard. There are no undecided.
Amy's voters are late Breaking that is normal for a Head before Heart candidate like Amy and Liz.

Pete's voters are not. If the Senators had been in the Field for the last Two weeks of Iowa Pete would have struggled to finish 4th. IMO.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
48. I will be the first to say Pete should drop when the times comes
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:49 AM
Feb 2020

But what reason do you think Pete should drop before Amy? This poll has Pete maybe getting 2nd place finish in Nevada. He is currently leading in delegates. He won Iowa and almost upset Bernie in NH. This would be 3 straight states he has done good. I agree the upside does not look great long term but nobody doing what he is doing would drop out at this point.

Amy hasn't done anything yet. She finished 5th in Iowa - a distant 3rd in NH and could finish 6th in Nevada. Polling 6th in SC. Nationally she is polling at half of Pete and 6th. She is also currently polling behind Bernie in her home state of Minnesota. If she finishes 6th in Nevada and doesn't drop afterwards she is just being selfish and doing this for herself and not for the people.


and your theory on late breaking voters is not true. They broke for Pete in Iowa and NH.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
49. Because I believ right now Pete's numbers are inflated.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:16 AM
Feb 2020

He is in the position he is in because he had the field to himself for the last two weeks in Iowa.

I know most people skip past that. But Pete's trend before that was down and the internals reinforce the top line. But by having Iowa to himself without impeachment attacked directly to him allowed him to present the only positive message and keep his troops motivated.

Amy's trend was in exactly the other direction. Those trends have reasserted themselves Amy is now catching Pete again and is likely to pass him as is starting to show even nationally.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
50. so what is the excuse for Biden doing so poorly then?
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:25 AM
Feb 2020

He had the field to himself? What about Bernie doing so good? And Warren not doing good?

You can make up things so they seem better but results are results. And Pete is doing better in Nevada than Amy even with all the over hype attention Amy has got and Pete never received.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
51. Biden was directly tied to the Trial
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:23 AM
Feb 2020

He could not escape it.
Bernie and Warren basically stayed where they were in Iowa. Iowa informed NH.
Sanders relies on turnout. He has a solid base that needs to be mobilized. Without him on the ground that was much much more difficult.
Warren's support is much more intellectually based and she needs to be visible to confirm the choice. She has a problem with out of sight out of mind.

I think now that we see the turnout between Iowa and NH we really can see how much that 2 weeks hurt.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
25. I agree
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:44 PM
Feb 2020

The campaigns of Biden, Klobuchar and Buttigieg need to figure out pretty quickly who needs to drop out to make it possible for a centrist to corral the needed 36% of the delegates by the convention to allow the superdelegates to push them over the top on the second ballot. Super Tuesday might be too late.

Otherwise, the superdelegates will have to choose between Bernie and Bloomie, and risk losing some part of the Democratic base. The orange turd must be overjoyed.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
33. Not "another" second place finish, he finished first in the two states that have voted.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:14 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
46. He finished first in both IA and NH (tied for 1st).
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:19 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Fiendish Thingy

(15,554 posts)
9. I could live with those results nt
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:08 PM
Feb 2020
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Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
11. Over 30,000 new Latinos have registered to vote in Nevada
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:10 PM
Feb 2020

According to a latino out reach Group that was on msnbc yesterday, so I figured Sanders would end up in the high 30's. He may take all the delegates in Nevada as the rest of the field is struggling to make the 15 percent threshold.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
12. Just read the poll and forget the provider for a moment.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:14 PM
Feb 2020

There is nothing inherently wrong with this poll.

There model my be a bit skewed but they all are to some extent. They have been roughly accurate so far.

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Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
13. Kicked and recommended.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:15 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks for the thread HerbChestnut.

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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
14. That's 22% more than the other one posted today that had Bernie at 13%.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:15 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
15. Yep, and this pollster has been pretty good so far according to results in Iowa and NH.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:22 PM
Feb 2020
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
16. I was surprised to see him only 1 point behind Biden with moderates. Yay Bernie!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:23 PM
Feb 2020
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Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
17. Rcp avg now has Sanders up + 9.0
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
Feb 2020
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-6866.html

It is kinda skewed since the suffolk poll was over a month ago before Iowa, so one more poll and that one will be off the avg.
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
20. Indeed! I am so happy for everyone who has worked so hard!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:29 PM
Feb 2020

So excited! Bernie and team have done a great job of gathering excitement around the Democratic party platform like no one else!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
21. Warren coming back and I'm glad they took in the
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

numbers on this :
Democratic voters strongly support both Medicare for All (69 percent in support, 23 percent opposed) and a Green New Deal (93 percent in support, 6 percent opposed).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Data for Progress conducts it's poll via text messages!!!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
23. Great so Sanders supporters
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:40 PM
Feb 2020

Will assume that the text massage was a GE vote for Bernie and won’t show up to vote 😶

If I were to vote in a presidential
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
24. Wow!!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:42 PM
Feb 2020

They've also been pretty accurate so far according to results in Iowa in NH. Maybe they're on to something!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
28. No bias whatsoever:
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:59 PM
Feb 2020
Data for Progress supports far-left policies, including Medicare-for-All, the Green New Deal, and the dismantling of U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement (ICE).
If I were to vote in a presidential
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still_one

(92,061 posts)
30. I will rely on the other polls, whose organizations don't have a political agenda
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
36. This polling company had Sanders. Winning NH 28 to 26 over Pete
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:26 PM
Feb 2020

Spectacular and was within 3 points of Sanders final percentage in Iowa. No one was closer in the first 2 states.

https://www.dataforprogress.org/memos/2020/2/10/sanders-with-narrow-lead-in-new-hampshire

If I were to vote in a presidential
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
37. Yup, they've been one of the most accurate pollsters so far.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:28 PM
Feb 2020

Let's hope it continues

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dbolski

(52 posts)
38. Yeah excellent polling so far by this pollster.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:35 PM
Feb 2020

It seems like people say negative things about pollsters when it doesn't favor their candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
40. I think both polls today were wrong
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

I didn’t think Bernie dropped to 13% in the first poll. I don’t think he’s at 35% here.

But what I found interesting was the cross tabs for the second and third choices. Bernie came in last for both second and third choices.

What that tells me is what I’ve said before. That Bernie has the most enthusiastic supporters, but an equal group who don’t like him. As Nevada is a caucus, his best round will always be the first. The other candidates will gain more support during the second round.

I think the RJ poll, which is in the “middle” of both of these polls, is a better judge of where the race is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,373 posts)
47. If Biden isn't viable, that'll kill his campaign.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:20 AM
Feb 2020
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