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Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:55 AM

 

Bloomberg spent $12 million to re-elect Rep Senator Pat Toomey (PA) in 2016

WASHINGTON — In 2016, Democrats thought they had found the perfect candidate to win a United States Senate seat in Pennsylvania and put them within striking distance of taking back the majority. But Katie McGinty, an environmental policy expert with degrees in chemistry and law, ran into an overwhelming obstacle: Michael R. Bloomberg’s fortune.


The former mayor of New York poured in $11.7 million to help re-elect the Republican incumbent, Senator Pat Toomey, who had led an effort, albeit unsuccessful, to expand background checks for gun purchasers, a top priority of Mr. Bloomberg’s.


Mr. Toomey won by less than two percentage points, handing a key victory to the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell: The Republicans held on to control of the chamber by two seats. At the time, it was the most expensive Senate race the country had ever seen, and Mr. Bloomberg’s money was one of the largest influxes of outside influence.


As Mr. Bloomberg begins his campaign for the White House with a promise to spend as much as it takes to defeat President Trump, his Democratic rivals are accusing him of trying to buy his way into the Oval Office. But his political spending on behalf of Republicans is also coming under attack from Democrats who say that his overlapping political goals with Republicans in Washington, and in particular with Mr. McConnell, are disqualifying.

“For many he went too far when he gave money to Pat Toomey,” said Jim Manley, a Democratic consultant and former senior aide to Harry Reid, the previous Senate leader, pointing out that Ms. McGinty also favored stricter gun regulations and that the race was so close.

“He tries to play both sides, and he ends up burning Democrats,” Mr. Manley added. “If that makes you feel good, I’m glad. But the reality is there are no free shots.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/26/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-republicans-donations.html
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melman Feb 2020 OP
George II Feb 2020 #1
Autumn Feb 2020 #4
George II Feb 2020 #6
Autumn Feb 2020 #10
George II Feb 2020 #12
redqueen Feb 2020 #25
Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #54
brooklynite Feb 2020 #20
liskddksil Feb 2020 #22
Autumn Feb 2020 #23
brooklynite Feb 2020 #29
Autumn Feb 2020 #32
brooklynite Feb 2020 #34
melman Feb 2020 #28
liskddksil Feb 2020 #30
showblue22 Feb 2020 #27
Autumn Feb 2020 #33
showblue22 Feb 2020 #35
Autumn Feb 2020 #36
showblue22 Feb 2020 #38
Autumn Feb 2020 #39
showblue22 Feb 2020 #41
Autumn Feb 2020 #43
LanternWaste Feb 2020 #37
Amimnoch Feb 2020 #13
liskddksil Feb 2020 #5
George II Feb 2020 #9
liskddksil Feb 2020 #11
Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #14
Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #48
thesquanderer Feb 2020 #44
MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #2
liskddksil Feb 2020 #3
MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #8
comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #7
Amimnoch Feb 2020 #16
Autumn Feb 2020 #19
PADemD Feb 2020 #15
liskddksil Feb 2020 #17
Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #46
liskddksil Feb 2020 #53
sarisataka Feb 2020 #18
liskddksil Feb 2020 #21
sarisataka Feb 2020 #24
backtoblue Feb 2020 #26
delisen Feb 2020 #56
liskddksil Feb 2020 #57
MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #58
showblue22 Feb 2020 #31
beachbumbob Feb 2020 #40
Zolorp Feb 2020 #42
Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #45
liskddksil Feb 2020 #49
Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #50
liskddksil Feb 2020 #52
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Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #59
liskddksil Feb 2020 #61
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:59 AM

1. You realize that Michael Bloomberg is a candidate for the DEMOCRATIC nomination for President right?

 

The former mayor of New York poured in $11.7 million to help re-elect the Republican incumbent, Senator Pat Toomey, who had led an effort, albeit unsuccessful, to expand background checks for gun purchasers, a top priority of Mr. Bloomberg’s.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:27 AM

4. Yes, all our candidates are running for the DEMOCRATIC nomination for President. Some of them

 

don't work to elect Republicans.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:29 AM

6. You're correct, and only one supported the murderous dictator Fidel Castro.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:33 AM

10. Ah yes the communist Boogyman. That dog don't hunt George.

 

Only one of them supported George Bush. Bush is a little more relevant.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:37 AM

12. Thousands of Cubans died at the hands of the Castro regime. That's not "rofl" worth. Sad.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

25. How many died in the second gulf war? nt

 

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:26 PM

54. Hundreds of thousands -including innocent people were killed

 

Because of the Iraq War.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:43 AM

20. Neither does a previous donation to a Senator most Democrats haven't heard of.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:46 AM

22. $12 million in Ads that basically swung the election away from the Democrat

 

and perhaps helped cost Hillary in Pennsylvania as well. No big deal.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:47 AM

23. I'm a DUer, I've not only heard of Mr. Toomey, if that who you are referencing, I paid attention.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:15 PM

29. The fact that you are a DUer means that you are not an average voter...

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:19 PM

32. No but I pay attention to average voters on other platforms.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:21 PM

34. "on other platforms"

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287468035
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:05 PM

28. So last night you were saying things that happened in 2004 don't matter. Now we're up to 2016...

 

...and it still doesn't matter. When do things start mattering?

I mean, if helping McConnell maintain the GOP majority doesn't matter what in the fuck does matter?
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Response to melman (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:17 PM

30. +++++

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:01 PM

27. The dog my not hunt for YOU

 

But it does for millions other Americans, especially in Florida.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:20 PM

33. Florida isn't the only state that votes.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:22 PM

35. I only said ESPECIALLY in FL.

 

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Response to showblue22 (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:28 PM

36. I don't need to use any qualifier like "especially". Where I'm at? That "communist dog don't hunt.

 

And the "socialist dog" whistle won't even get the dog to sniff.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:38 PM

38. It should

 

They're both Bernie's own words.

Sanders says, "I remember how impressed I was by the Cuban Revolution, Communism and Fidel Castro."
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:50 PM

39. It doesn't. Someone can tell a young Bernie supporter he's a (Gasp) not a dem he's a socialist and

 

that younger supporter will say, "Okay, then that's what I am. A Socialist". And then go on to ask how he and some friends can sign up to phonebank with their cell phones.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:02 PM

41. I'm 33

 

Is that not considered young today?
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:09 PM

43. To me, everyone is young.

 

But then you aren't a Bernie supporter, and that's an example of who I was talking about. As an older woman, I don't ask people their age.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:36 PM

37. We often dismiss the sins of our Sacred Cow as irrelevant.

 

yet more often than not, indict our opponents for the same or lesser.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:29 AM

5. How'd that endorsement work out? What gun reform measures passed with Pat Toomey's

 

leadership? Why was Democrat Katie McGinty not worthy of support?

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Response to liskddksil (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:32 AM

9. In other words, if a cause isn't going to prevail early on, don't bother at all. That sounds like..

 

...the justification by someone for some of his bad votes in the House and Senate.
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Response to George II (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:35 AM

11. No. Toomey was always going to be a vote for Moscow Mitch who would block any gun reform

 

no matter how small. Bloomberg showed poor judgement if he expected Pat Toomey to do anything but support Moscow Mitch.
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Response to George II (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:39 AM

14. No. It means think again about helping elect someone who will vote for "Moscow Mitch"

 

to control the Senate.
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Response to liskddksil (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:42 PM

48. It is all about beating Trump...if it is Sanders/ Bloomberg...I choose Bloomberg...I still think

 

it will be Biden.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:34 PM

44. McGinty would have been strong on gun control too. So it seems like...

 

..something more than just that was behind Bloomberg's huge support for Toomey.
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:23 AM

2. BOOM!

 

That kills any interest I may have had in his campaign. I had assumed that the Russian interference is what put Patty back into office, but obviously this support didn't hurt.
Toomey is such a disaster - and a dedicated Trump tool.
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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:27 AM

3. Glad to hear. I've been trying to spread the word these last few months

 

to little avail. Not just Pat Toomey. Add Scott Brown, Susan Collins and numerous other Republicans in state legislative and congressional races as late as the 2018 cycle.

Toomey and Collins, itself cost us Merrick Garland and gave us Gorsuch and Kavenaugh. Add to that Bloomberg's earlier endorsement of George W. Bush, which gave us Roberts and Alito. Bloomberg's endorsements gave us nearly the entirely Conservative Majority of the Supreme Court that are primed to gut Roe V. Wade.
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Response to liskddksil (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:31 AM

8. You should have seen the garbage..........

 

Patsy sent me when I complained about DeVos being the Secretary of Education. It was obvious that he was writing a script from the "for-profit" education industry. What a disaster this clown is to Pennsylvania,
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:30 AM

7. Bloomberg is still preferable to Sanders in my book.

 

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:41 AM

16. yep.. 100%

 

Let's see.. helped get Toomey elected in 2016 on one hand or helped get Trump elected in the other.. let's think on this.. which one was worse??

Yeah, Bloomberg is MUCH more viable in my book than BS ever will be.
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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:42 AM

19. I know, I saw that post of yours

 

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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:40 AM

15. Admiral Joe Sestak (Ret.) would have beat Toomey

 

The Democratic Party would not support him because he beat former Republican Arlen Spector. They put their support behind Katie McGinty.

Former Representative Sestak won his Congressional seat in a heavy Republican district. I firmly believe he would have beat Toomey.
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Response to PADemD (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:42 AM

17. I agree that Sestak might have been the better choice for Democrats, but still no excuse for

 

someone like Bloomberg supposedly concerned with gun reform to endorse a Republican, who would be an automatic vote for Moscow Mitch. We've seen the results, all gun reform blocked for the foreseeable future.
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Response to liskddksil (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:40 PM

46. Did you ever hear of the Manchin Toomey bill? It would have blocked private party gun sales

 

without a background check.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:20 PM

53. Get back to me when Moscow Mitch brings Manchin Toomey (from 2013)

 

or the much better House Passed bill (from 2019) up to a vote.
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:42 AM

18. Could it be argued

 

That if it wasn't for Bloomberg's efforts in this case, and his previous successful efforts to get Republicans elected to the Senate, that there would have been witnesses allowed in the impeachment trial? That perhaps even been a Democratic majority leader? That Obama's nomination to SCOTUS would not have been shelved until after the election?

His butterfly effect has already left its mark.
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Response to sarisataka (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:44 AM

21. Absolutely.

 

He endorsed Collins in 2014 and Toomey in 2016, who were basically the deciding votes for Kavenaugh and helped to block Garland and get Gorsuch. Add to that his 2004 endorsement of George W. Bush, and we got Roberts and Alito, basically almost the entire conservative Supreme Court Majority.
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Response to liskddksil (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:55 AM

24. It is often forgotten

 

He opposed Mark Pryor in the Arkansas race in 2014 helping tea partier Tom Cotton take the seat.
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Response to sarisataka (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

26. +++++

 

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Response to liskddksil (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:30 PM

56. Bloomberg was so powerful he got Bush re-elected?

 

Glad Bloomberg is going all out for Democratic party now!
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Response to delisen (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:35 PM

57. I'm a proud Democrat and I'm not going to reward him for his long history of supporting Republicans

 

not to mention right-wing policies like charter schools, standardized testing, stop-and-frisk etc.
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Response to liskddksil (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:14 PM

58. Thank you.............

 

even MORE reasons to question his positions/motives.
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:17 PM

31. When you consider who would be best for our nation as a whole.

 

I pick Bloomberg, regardless of who he has supported in his past. For reasons I can not express here. IMO Bloomberg who is a nominee for the democratic party would in the long run be safer for progressive causes. In other words, after Trump and this imminent threat to our democracy is over, picking up the pieces for progressive causes will be easy if it's Bloomberg vs Bernie.
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:53 PM

40. I perfer to vote FOR democrats to be our presidential nominee, just saying

 

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Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:06 PM

42. Don't care, he's still higher on my list than Sanders.

 

Sanders berned a lot of bridges over the past five years.
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Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:38 PM

45. Toomey was good on guns...this is why Bloomberg supported him....

 

But no matter what you say, I want to win...if it comes down to Sander's and Bloomberg, I vote Bloomberg...but I still think Biden beats Sanders.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:10 PM

49. How is a Republican Senator who is an automatic vote for Moscow Mitch good on guns.

 

There won't be any gun control with a Republican Senate. Anyone who favors gun reform and supports Republicans doesn't show good judgement.
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Response to liskddksil (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:14 PM

50. He sponsored a bill with Manchin to make it law that private gun sales require a background check.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:18 PM

52. Which won't go anywhere in a Republican controlled Senate as evidenced

 

by the last few years of inaction.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:31 PM

60. Ironic - around "Groundhog's Day" we talk about these guys............

 

BOTH are like Punxsutawney Phil - they "bravely" poke their head out of the ground, look at what's seemingly safe, and then scurry back into the safety of their own dark, hidden cave. NONE of these characters show ANY courage or conviction that makes them worthy of honor. At least Phil inspired the making of a movie that celebrates a reason to have a party in the middle of winter.

Manchin claims to be a Democrat but keeps breaking the hearts of Democrats by voting for issues that he believes will allow him to keep his job in a deep red state.

Toomey is a "Turtle Soldier" who every once in a while ventures out of his cave and pretends to care about issues that would actually benefit the majority of Pennsylvanians instead of his own favorite 1% banker friends. He dares to do that (it makes great headlines on his "Letters to my Fellow Pennsylvanians" ) because he KNOWS that ain't no way in hell is he gonna' get in trouble for "voting the wrong way."

They both need to go. We need to fight for what is right and kick these carpetbaggers to the curb!

GET OUT THE VOTE - get 'em gone!!!!

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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:40 PM

47. That's why he is at the bottom of my list, just below Biden and Gabbard.

 

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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:17 PM

51. Calm down

 

Bloomberg is softening Trump up for us.
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:27 PM

55. And some question

 

why a Democratic voter would struggle with Bloomberg being our nominee??

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Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:28 PM

59. Toomey voted against witnesses and will vote for acquittal

 

So there is that when people try to minmize what his long-standing and well-funded support of repubs has meant and continues to mean even today.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #59)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:37 PM

61. Yep. Not to many that Susan Collins (who he also supported over Democrat

 

Shenna Bellows) in 2014 and Pat Toomey were deciding votes for Kavenaugh and their votes for majority leader Moscow Mitch helped block Merrick Garland. His earlier endorsement of President George W. Bush gave us Roberts and Alito.
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Response to melman (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:04 PM

62. McGinty was just a terrible candidate who ran an awful campaign

 

Completely bland and foisted onto Dem voters. Toomey was beatable, but she never gave one good reason why Pennsylvanians should vote for her. I kid you not, her campaign ads consisted of her reciting her upbringing as the youngest of 10 kids, Dad a cop, Mom a waitress. If she had run TV spots emphasizing her background, she might have won. Few voters knew anything about her background in chemistry and law although she was somewhat known for being state environmental officer.

Toomey sat on the fence about whether he supported Trump or not. Only at the very end when the die was cast did he say he supported Trump.

I'm with the poster above who believes Sestak would've beat Toomey.
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