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Autumn

(45,079 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:05 PM Jan 2020

Fact-Checking Joe Biden Before the Iowa Caucuses

The former vice president has made inaccurate claims this month about his record on Social Security, race and foreign policy.

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. remains atop most national polls before the first votes are cast next month in the Democratic presidential primary. Before the Iowa caucuses, The New York Times reviewed recent statements he made defending his decades-long career, stressing his standing in the black community and highlighting his perceived strength on foreign policy. Here’s a fact check.

WHAT THE FACTS ARE

Mr. Biden tried to defend his record on Social Security and birth control with questionable claims.
WHAT WAS SAID

Antonia Hylton, a reporter for Vice News: “Do you think, though, that it’s fair for voters to question your commitment to Social Security when in the past you’ve proposed a freeze to it?”

Mr. Biden: “No, I didn’t propose a freeze.”
— at the Brown & Black Democratic Presidential Forum last week in Iowa

False. In 1984, faced with budget deficits under the Reagan administration, Mr. Biden was a co-sponsor of an amendment with two Republican senators that froze for one year nearly all military and domestic spending, including cost-of-living adjustments to Social Security benefits.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/biden-factcheck.html?fbclid=IwAR2S6sY1EoteNoQN-dZvcLZTQtJVtpRw445FcgNHEMDmON-HjEyki9ytcU0

Much more at link.




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Fact-Checking Joe Biden Before the Iowa Caucuses (Original Post) Autumn Jan 2020 OP
I want the Dems to attack Trump left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #1
This vetting is extremely important. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #2
It's beyond odd... pfeiffer Jan 2020 #4
I would think the Russians would prefer made up lies . nt Autumn Jan 2020 #5
This story has been posted sooo many times ...yawns Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #11
If Biden is so bad on race, why did this man choose him to be his VP? RandySF Jan 2020 #3
Nailed it!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #9
Obama didn't choose Biden to help him with the black vote. Think about it. floppyboo Jan 2020 #44
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #6
You're very welcome Uncle Joe. Autumn Jan 2020 #7
.... Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #12
Independents are not voting for a Socialist! MRDAWG Jan 2020 #8
As this WAPO poll proves who beats dotard Biden 38% sanders 18% Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #10
I like Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden katmondoo Jan 2020 #26
I've heard that before. Autumn Jan 2020 #33
Again? Beaverhausen Jan 2020 #13
It's new to me. progressoid Jan 2020 #18
then you haven't been paying attention stopdiggin Jan 2020 #19
Some of us have lives outside of DU. progressoid Jan 2020 #21
I can't read every post, I have a life. I looked back 2 pages and yesterday was a very busy day Autumn Jan 2020 #23
Ok. Eko Jan 2020 #14
We've been reading screeds about Rogan for days. redqueen Jan 2020 #15
We've been reading screeds about Rogan for days. redqueen Jan 2020 #16
All the way back to 1984!!! Let's see, that's 36 years ago..... George II Jan 2020 #17
All the way back to 1972 George!!! Let's see, that's 46 years ago..... Autumn Jan 2020 #22
What else happened in 1972? BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #25
Try Google. Or ask George nt Autumn Jan 2020 #27
What are you talking about???? George II Jan 2020 #34
. Autumn Jan 2020 #35
You introduce 1972 into the discussion, you get asked why, and all you can do is laugh. George II Jan 2020 #37
Come on Gerorge. Your first response to my OP was this Autumn Jan 2020 #38
... George II Jan 2020 #39
George was that not your response to my OP? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who can see that. Autumn Jan 2020 #40
Written by Linda Qui who is like Holly Otterbein NCProgressive Jan 2020 #20
Holly is a doll. Her Dad is one of my favorite people. Autumn Jan 2020 #24
Joe O. IS great!! He must be very proud of his daughter... I sure am!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #29
That young lady is sharp, I'm proud of her too. About the only thing I do on Twitter is retweet her. Autumn Jan 2020 #30
Are you aware that Holly's job at Politico IS to report on Bernie Sanders & the progressive Left? Autumn Jan 2020 #36
But reporting needs to be unbiased NCProgressive Jan 2020 #41
Again. Her job is to report on Bernie & the Left for Politico. She has done a few articles that Autumn Jan 2020 #42
hahahahaha NCProgressive Jan 2020 #43
Thank you for the post... Joe needs to be vetted BEFORE the voting starts!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28
so what is said 30+ years ago is germaine how? I gots lots of Bernie statements from 40 years ago beachbumbob Jan 2020 #31
What is said 46 years ago by Bernie is so very germane, those thing are posted very often and over Autumn Jan 2020 #32
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. I want the Dems to attack Trump
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:09 PM
Jan 2020

Stop tearing each other down,
and giving the GOP sound bytes for the fall campaign.

All this mud slinging by Democratic candidates against each other will be used by Trump against the eventual nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
2. This vetting is extremely important.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020

It’s beyond odd to claim that cuts weren’t attempted.

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pfeiffer

(280 posts)
4. It's beyond odd...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020

to think stories like this will ever hurt Joe.

But I bet the Russians love it!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
5. I would think the Russians would prefer made up lies . nt
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:28 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,765 posts)
11. This story has been posted sooo many times ...yawns
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(58,805 posts)
3. If Biden is so bad on race, why did this man choose him to be his VP?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
44. Obama didn't choose Biden to help him with the black vote. Think about it.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,361 posts)
6. Kicked and recommended.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:32 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for the thread Autumn.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
7. You're very welcome Uncle Joe.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MRDAWG

(501 posts)
8. Independents are not voting for a Socialist!
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:45 PM
Jan 2020

Only Biden can beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,765 posts)
10. As this WAPO poll proves who beats dotard Biden 38% sanders 18%
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:51 PM
Jan 2020

Who attracts independent voters
Biden 29
Sanders 17


?s=21
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
26. I like Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
33. I've heard that before.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
13. Again?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jan 2020

This was posted yesterday. Give it up

Tell us why to vote FOR your candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
19. then you haven't been paying attention
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:18 AM
Jan 2020

the same story has been running for days.
post after post .. after post ..
giving new definition to flogging a dead horse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
21. Some of us have lives outside of DU.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:51 AM
Jan 2020

While I have been a member here for over 15 years, I also work 10-12 hours a day so I can't monitor every post.

YMMV

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
23. I can't read every post, I have a life. I looked back 2 pages and yesterday was a very busy day
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jan 2020
You can ignore it. It's easy to not click on an OP. I do it all the time.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(7,282 posts)
14. Ok.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jan 2020

While running for re-election in 1996, then-Congressman Sanders said at a news conference that the Social Security system had “been adjusted before, and adjustments will have to be made again.” The Sanders campaign has assailed Biden for saying Social Security was in need of “adjustments” in a 2018 speech, with Chief Policy Adviser Warren Gunnels on Wednesday quoting an interest group saying the term was a “euphemism” for cuts.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-22/sanders-biden-battle-over-who-will-best-protect-social-security

If I were to vote in a presidential
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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
15. We've been reading screeds about Rogan for days.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jan 2020

This gets posted twice and people act like it's all over nothing to see here.

Interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
16. We've been reading screeds about Rogan for days.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jan 2020

This gets posted twice and people act like it's all over nothing to see here.

Interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. All the way back to 1984!!! Let's see, that's 36 years ago.....
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
22. All the way back to 1972 George!!! Let's see, that's 46 years ago.....
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jan 2020

If we're doing math

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
25. What else happened in 1972?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
27. Try Google. Or ask George nt
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. What are you talking about????
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jan 2020

Who mentioned 1972?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. You introduce 1972 into the discussion, you get asked why, and all you can do is laugh.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jan 2020

Might have been more effective if you just deleted your references to 1972.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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Autumn

(45,079 posts)
38. Come on Gerorge. Your first response to my OP was this
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jan 2020
Star Member George II (48,570 posts)

17. All the way back to 1984!!! Let's see, that's 36 years ago.....


and you want to complain because I responded to you, an on topic response to YOUR posts I might add, with

Autumn (37,361 posts)

22. All the way back to 1972 George!!! Let's see, that's 46 years ago.....

If we're doing math


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
40. George was that not your response to my OP? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who can see that.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Unless a new feature has been rolled out and I missed it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
20. Written by Linda Qui who is like Holly Otterbein
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:32 AM
Jan 2020

All her fact check articles are against Biden, Steyer, Buttigieg and Trump.

She has bever written a fact-check article on Bernie Sanders.

Yellow biased journalism at its worst.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
24. Holly is a doll. Her Dad is one of my favorite people.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. Joe O. IS great!! He must be very proud of his daughter... I sure am!!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
30. That young lady is sharp, I'm proud of her too. About the only thing I do on Twitter is retweet her.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
36. Are you aware that Holly's job at Politico IS to report on Bernie Sanders & the progressive Left?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
41. But reporting needs to be unbiased
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jan 2020

Being a reporter doesn't mean she has to be a sycophantic devotee and write effusive articles.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
42. Again. Her job is to report on Bernie & the Left for Politico. She has done a few articles that
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jan 2020

were critical but fair.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
43. hahahahaha
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:07 PM
Jan 2020

Cool story

But the reporter cited in the OP has done nothing but anti-Biden reporting

Sirota has planted his buddies everywhere

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. Thank you for the post... Joe needs to be vetted BEFORE the voting starts!!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jan 2020

We need a candidate, like Bernie, who's gone through the vetting process, and has come out of it in the strongest position to beat tRumpy the Clown in November.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
31. so what is said 30+ years ago is germaine how? I gots lots of Bernie statements from 40 years ago
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jan 2020

that would not go over too well today when he was a full blown socialist who campaigned for the Socialist Workers Party in the 1980 and 1984 presidential campaigns...man that would play well wouldn't it in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, Nc & SC, Wisconsin, Michigan, even be problematic in Illinois, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota,

The issues are about today, who can best lead a nationwide landslide and permanently make the GOP a minority party. I don;t see how Texas is would ever won by a sanders or a warren nomination in any reality

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
32. What is said 46 years ago by Bernie is so very germane, those thing are posted very often and over
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jan 2020

and over again. Biden, like Bernie, has a long political history. I've been assured by some it's called vetting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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