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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:05 PM

 

Fact-Checking Joe Biden Before the Iowa Caucuses

The former vice president has made inaccurate claims this month about his record on Social Security, race and foreign policy.

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. remains atop most national polls before the first votes are cast next month in the Democratic presidential primary. Before the Iowa caucuses, The New York Times reviewed recent statements he made defending his decades-long career, stressing his standing in the black community and highlighting his perceived strength on foreign policy. Here’s a fact check.

WHAT THE FACTS ARE

Mr. Biden tried to defend his record on Social Security and birth control with questionable claims.
WHAT WAS SAID

Antonia Hylton, a reporter for Vice News: “Do you think, though, that it’s fair for voters to question your commitment to Social Security when in the past you’ve proposed a freeze to it?”

Mr. Biden: “No, I didn’t propose a freeze.”
— at the Brown & Black Democratic Presidential Forum last week in Iowa

False. In 1984, faced with budget deficits under the Reagan administration, Mr. Biden was a co-sponsor of an amendment with two Republican senators that froze for one year nearly all military and domestic spending, including cost-of-living adjustments to Social Security benefits.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/biden-factcheck.html?fbclid=IwAR2S6sY1EoteNoQN-dZvcLZTQtJVtpRw445FcgNHEMDmON-HjEyki9ytcU0

Much more at link.




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Reply Fact-Checking Joe Biden Before the Iowa Caucuses (Original post)
Autumn Jan 2020 OP
left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #1
Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #2
pfeiffer Jan 2020 #4
Autumn Jan 2020 #5
Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #11
RandySF Jan 2020 #3
Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #9
floppyboo Jan 2020 #44
Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #6
Autumn Jan 2020 #7
Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #12
MRDAWG Jan 2020 #8
Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #10
katmondoo Jan 2020 #26
Autumn Jan 2020 #33
Beaverhausen Jan 2020 #13
progressoid Jan 2020 #18
stopdiggin Jan 2020 #19
progressoid Jan 2020 #21
Autumn Jan 2020 #23
Eko Jan 2020 #14
redqueen Jan 2020 #15
redqueen Jan 2020 #16
George II Jan 2020 #17
Autumn Jan 2020 #22
BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #25
Autumn Jan 2020 #27
George II Jan 2020 #34
LineLineLineLineNew Reply .
Autumn Jan 2020 #35
George II Jan 2020 #37
Autumn Jan 2020 #38
George II Jan 2020 #39
Autumn Jan 2020 #40
NCProgressive Jan 2020 #20
Autumn Jan 2020 #24
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #29
Autumn Jan 2020 #30
Autumn Jan 2020 #36
NCProgressive Jan 2020 #41
Autumn Jan 2020 #42
NCProgressive Jan 2020 #43
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28
beachbumbob Jan 2020 #31
Autumn Jan 2020 #32

Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:09 PM

1. I want the Dems to attack Trump

 

Stop tearing each other down,
and giving the GOP sound bytes for the fall campaign.

All this mud slinging by Democratic candidates against each other will be used by Trump against the eventual nominee.
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

2. This vetting is extremely important.

 

It’s beyond odd to claim that cuts weren’t attempted.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:19 PM

4. It's beyond odd...

 

to think stories like this will ever hurt Joe.

But I bet the Russians love it!
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Response to pfeiffer (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:28 PM

5. I would think the Russians would prefer made up lies . nt

 

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Response to pfeiffer (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:54 PM

11. This story has been posted sooo many times ...yawns

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:13 PM

3. If Biden is so bad on race, why did this man choose him to be his VP?

 

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Response to RandySF (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:49 PM

9. Nailed it!!

 

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:08 PM

44. Obama didn't choose Biden to help him with the black vote. Think about it.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:32 PM

6. Kicked and recommended.

 

Thanks for the thread Autumn.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:33 PM

7. You're very welcome Uncle Joe.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:55 PM

12. ....

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:45 PM

8. Independents are not voting for a Socialist!

 

Only Biden can beat Trump.
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Response to MRDAWG (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:51 PM

10. As this WAPO poll proves who beats dotard Biden 38% sanders 18%

 

Who attracts independent voters
Biden 29
Sanders 17


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Response to MRDAWG (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:21 AM

26. I like Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden

 

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Response to MRDAWG (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:40 PM

33. I've heard that before.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:59 PM

13. Again?

 

This was posted yesterday. Give it up

Tell us why to vote FOR your candidate.
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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:26 AM

18. It's new to me.

 

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Response to progressoid (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:18 AM

19. then you haven't been paying attention

 

the same story has been running for days.
post after post .. after post ..
giving new definition to flogging a dead horse.
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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:51 AM

21. Some of us have lives outside of DU.

 

While I have been a member here for over 15 years, I also work 10-12 hours a day so I can't monitor every post.

YMMV

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:58 AM

23. I can't read every post, I have a life. I looked back 2 pages and yesterday was a very busy day

 

You can ignore it. It's easy to not click on an OP. I do it all the time.
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:01 PM

14. Ok.

 

While running for re-election in 1996, then-Congressman Sanders said at a news conference that the Social Security system had “been adjusted before, and adjustments will have to be made again.” The Sanders campaign has assailed Biden for saying Social Security was in need of “adjustments” in a 2018 speech, with Chief Policy Adviser Warren Gunnels on Wednesday quoting an interest group saying the term was a “euphemism” for cuts.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-22/sanders-biden-battle-over-who-will-best-protect-social-security
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM

15. We've been reading screeds about Rogan for days.

 

This gets posted twice and people act like it's all over nothing to see here.

Interesting.
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM

16. We've been reading screeds about Rogan for days.

 

This gets posted twice and people act like it's all over nothing to see here.

Interesting.
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:47 PM

17. All the way back to 1984!!! Let's see, that's 36 years ago.....

 

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Response to George II (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:55 AM

22. All the way back to 1972 George!!! Let's see, that's 46 years ago.....

 

If we're doing math
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Response to Autumn (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:17 AM

25. What else happened in 1972?

 

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:24 AM

27. Try Google. Or ask George nt

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

34. What are you talking about????

 

Who mentioned 1972?

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Response to George II (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:59 PM

35. .

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:06 PM

37. You introduce 1972 into the discussion, you get asked why, and all you can do is laugh.

 

Might have been more effective if you just deleted your references to 1972.



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Response to George II (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:19 PM

38. Come on Gerorge. Your first response to my OP was this

 

Star Member George II (48,570 posts)

17. All the way back to 1984!!! Let's see, that's 36 years ago.....


and you want to complain because I responded to you, an on topic response to YOUR posts I might add, with

Autumn (37,361 posts)

22. All the way back to 1972 George!!! Let's see, that's 46 years ago.....

If we're doing math


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Response to Autumn (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:21 PM

39. ...

 

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Response to George II (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:31 PM

40. George was that not your response to my OP? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who can see that.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:32 AM

20. Written by Linda Qui who is like Holly Otterbein

 

All her fact check articles are against Biden, Steyer, Buttigieg and Trump.

She has bever written a fact-check article on Bernie Sanders.

Yellow biased journalism at its worst.
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Response to NCProgressive (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:16 AM

24. Holly is a doll. Her Dad is one of my favorite people.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:28 AM

29. Joe O. IS great!! He must be very proud of his daughter... I sure am!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:33 AM

30. That young lady is sharp, I'm proud of her too. About the only thing I do on Twitter is retweet her.

 

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Response to NCProgressive (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:05 PM

36. Are you aware that Holly's job at Politico IS to report on Bernie Sanders & the progressive Left?

 

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein
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Response to Autumn (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:44 PM

41. But reporting needs to be unbiased

 

Being a reporter doesn't mean she has to be a sycophantic devotee and write effusive articles.
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Response to NCProgressive (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:41 PM

42. Again. Her job is to report on Bernie & the Left for Politico. She has done a few articles that

 

were critical but fair.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:07 PM

43. hahahahaha

 

Cool story

But the reporter cited in the OP has done nothing but anti-Biden reporting

Sirota has planted his buddies everywhere
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:26 AM

28. Thank you for the post... Joe needs to be vetted BEFORE the voting starts!!

 

We need a candidate, like Bernie, who's gone through the vetting process, and has come out of it in the strongest position to beat tRumpy the Clown in November.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:52 AM

31. so what is said 30+ years ago is germaine how? I gots lots of Bernie statements from 40 years ago

 

that would not go over too well today when he was a full blown socialist who campaigned for the Socialist Workers Party in the 1980 and 1984 presidential campaigns...man that would play well wouldn't it in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, Nc & SC, Wisconsin, Michigan, even be problematic in Illinois, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota,

The issues are about today, who can best lead a nationwide landslide and permanently make the GOP a minority party. I don;t see how Texas is would ever won by a sanders or a warren nomination in any reality
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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:07 PM

32. What is said 46 years ago by Bernie is so very germane, those thing are posted very often and over

 

and over again. Biden, like Bernie, has a long political history. I've been assured by some it's called vetting.
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