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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:35 AM Jan 2020

Paul Krugman: Biden, Sanders, Social Security and Smears

New York Times

While the news media has been focused on the “spat” between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, something much more serious has been taking place between the Sanders campaign and Joe Biden. Not to sugarcoat it: The Sanders campaign has flat-out lied about things Biden said in 2018 about Social Security, and it has refused to admit the falsehood.

This is bad; it is, indeed, almost Trumpian. The last thing we need is another president who demonizes and lies about anyone who disagrees with him, and can’t admit ever being wrong. Biden deserves an apology, now, and Sanders probably needs to find better aides.

That said — and this is no excuse for the Sanders camp — it would be good to have Biden explain why, in the more distant past, he went along with the Beltway consensus that Social Security needed to be pared back.

First, about that Biden smear: In 2018 Biden gave a speech attacking Paul Ryan, the then-speaker of the House, for wanting to cut taxes on the rich and pay for those tax cuts by cutting Social Security and Medicare. There was nothing in his remarks that should bother progressives.
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Paul Krugman: Biden, Sanders, Social Security and Smears (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
and it is pathetic that there are posters here still propagating this LIE still_one Jan 2020 #1
+1 TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #2
David Sirota retweets it several times an hour. George II Jan 2020 #3
Krugman is wrong. Eric J in MN Jan 2020 #4
Ironic your choice of idioms. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #5
I don't understand. NT Eric J in MN Jan 2020 #6
 

still_one

(92,394 posts)
1. and it is pathetic that there are posters here still propagating this LIE
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:58 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. David Sirota retweets it several times an hour.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
4. Krugman is wrong.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jan 2020

Joe Biden advocated “adjustments” to Social Security in that 2018 video, which is a euphemism for “cuts.”


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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. Ironic your choice of idioms.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:41 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
6. I don't understand. NT
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jan 2020

NT

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primary today, I would vote for:
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