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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:59 PM Dec 2019

I'm supporting Warren but Klobuchar is impressing me!

I've seen her on some TV interviews. She does very well. She is "midwestern nice" but has an inner toughness that appeals to me.

I'd like to know more. I understand she had a former employee who had job issues with her and I'd like to know more about that.

As with every Dem candidate I am looking at her in a debate situation with Trump. If she gets that far, I wonder what derisive nickname he'll try to hang on her and how he'd attack her.

Amy strikes me as having a cool hand but comes from strength...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I'm supporting Warren but Klobuchar is impressing me! (Original Post) CTyankee Dec 2019 OP
Klobucher is our most electable candidate. creeksneakers2 Dec 2019 #1
😮No, that would be Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #2
I honestly do not think that is going to happen.... chillfactor Dec 2019 #6
Well, as we've come to find out, sometimes the most electable candidate doesn't get nominated. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #8
I'm voting for Amy squirecam Dec 2019 #40
They guy who lost the primaries by 4 million last time has already hit peak Bernie. nt pnwmom Dec 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #19
She is ok. Her problem is that she is not inspiring. RDANGELO Dec 2019 #3
Agree. She strikes me as a lightweight in contrast to some very strong opponents. Doremus Dec 2019 #9
Maybe that's why Trump doesn't have a derisive nickname for her yet... CTyankee Dec 2019 #12
Give him time, lol Doremus Dec 2019 #15
Lightweight hardly judeling Dec 2019 #17
I have always preferred Klobuchar over Warren.... chillfactor Dec 2019 #4
Me too JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #32
I really like Klobuchar. She impressed me in a couple of debates. Wish she had helpisontheway Dec 2019 #5
Go to her group to find more about her positions question everything Dec 2019 #7
Thanks. I'll read up on her... CTyankee Dec 2019 #11
Thanks. Will read tomorrow, Now I must sleep... CTyankee Dec 2019 #14
inner toughness is a good way to put it bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #10
I've been very impressed with her as well PatSeg Dec 2019 #13
Not according to her poll numbers. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #20
It is still early PatSeg Dec 2019 #22
Fair point. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #24
What are her likability poll numbers? NT TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #38
Warren with Klobuchar interest judeling Dec 2019 #16
I don't want to be "impressed", I want to know she can win the nomination and then the GE. brooklynite Dec 2019 #21
The GE Definitely judeling Dec 2019 #23
I kinda think she could, otherwise I wouldn't be posting this... CTyankee Dec 2019 #28
Klobuchar could be Biden's pick for VP ritapria Dec 2019 #25
I hope so squirecam Dec 2019 #41
At first for me she was in the background but as I paid more attention Raine Dec 2019 #26
I support Joe lapfog_1 Dec 2019 #27
She was originally in my BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #29
Oh, I didn't know about that. What did she say? Was it on policy or more personal? CTyankee Dec 2019 #33
Your bottom line BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #36
This is an awesome task and that is why we need a strong woman at the controls! CTyankee Dec 2019 #39
That is an interesting Dynamic judeling Dec 2019 #34
I don't think JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #30
+1 nt brer cat Dec 2019 #35
i always liked amy..i hope shes on the ticket somewhere with someone... samnsara Dec 2019 #31
That squirecam Dec 2019 #42
"Amy strikes me as having a cool hand but comes from strength..." TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #37
Amy clicks a lot of boxes on my check list for VP. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #43
 

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
1. Klobucher is our most electable candidate.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:05 PM
Dec 2019

She's very level headed and doesn't make mistakes.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
2. 😮No, that would be Bernie!!
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:09 PM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
6. I honestly do not think that is going to happen....
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:25 PM
Dec 2019

I will be Biden with either a woman like Klobuchar or a man of color or even Mayor Pete as VP candidate. Maybe even Stacey who is dynamite! I will be so glad when our ticket is established so all DUers are on the same page for a change and not arguing with each other,

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
8. Well, as we've come to find out, sometimes the most electable candidate doesn't get nominated.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:27 PM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
40. I'm voting for Amy
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:19 PM
Dec 2019

But my expectation is Amy or Abrams for VP.

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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
18. They guy who lost the primaries by 4 million last time has already hit peak Bernie. nt
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:27 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #18)

 

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
3. She is ok. Her problem is that she is not inspiring.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:14 PM
Dec 2019

She needs to show more emotion, conviction, instead of just words coming out of her mouth,

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Doremus

(7,261 posts)
9. Agree. She strikes me as a lightweight in contrast to some very strong opponents.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:30 PM
Dec 2019

I admit I'm not enamored of her centrist ideals but I wouldn't care for her very much anyway. "Uninspiring" is a good descriptor.

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. Maybe that's why Trump doesn't have a derisive nickname for her yet...
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:34 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Doremus

(7,261 posts)
15. Give him time, lol
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:38 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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judeling

(1,086 posts)
17. Lightweight hardly
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:12 AM
Dec 2019

Uninspiring perhaps, not what she aims for. It is most interesting that she is not running to be leader of the movement and more captain of the team.

But don't kid yourself she is a shark.

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chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
4. I have always preferred Klobuchar over Warren....
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:18 PM
Dec 2019

Klobuchar is a strong intelligent, educated woman whom I admire.

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JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
32. Me too
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:39 AM
Dec 2019

I can relate to her more than Warren.

There are 8 candidates I would be more than happy to vote for in a GE and she's one of them.

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helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
5. I really like Klobuchar. She impressed me in a couple of debates. Wish she had
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:21 PM
Dec 2019

more support.

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question everything

(47,479 posts)
7. Go to her group to find more about her positions
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:27 PM
Dec 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1300

Her prolific bill writings

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13001

Respect from WSJ and George Will. Well she does try to appeal to the center

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13007

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13004

Her proposal for a national infrastructure including how to pay for it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13006

https://www.democraticunderground.com/130031

Her sense of humor - from 2009

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13003

A retired coal miner loves her

https://www.democraticunderground.com/130070

and more..



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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. Thanks. I'll read up on her...
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:32 PM
Dec 2019
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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. Thanks. Will read tomorrow, Now I must sleep...
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:36 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
10. inner toughness is a good way to put it
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:30 PM
Dec 2019

you do get the sense that no one pushes her around, she knows what's happening in any given moment, and she's not in the race to simply create sound bites. I get the impression she is thinking hard all the time.

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PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
13. I've been very impressed with her as well
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:35 PM
Dec 2019

She has a lot going for her and a broad appeal.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
20. Not according to her poll numbers.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:31 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
22. It is still early
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:06 AM
Dec 2019

Previous primaries at this point rarely indicated who the eventual nominee would be. I still think it will be Biden, but I wouldn't bet on it. Primaries are full of surprises.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
24. Fair point.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:34 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
38. What are her likability poll numbers? NT
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:33 PM
Dec 2019
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judeling

(1,086 posts)
16. Warren with Klobuchar interest
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:50 PM
Dec 2019

is not uncommon. They both have some attributes in common. Warren tends to be more of an architect and Klobuchar a builder. The difference is more in working with the materials at hand then designing new solutions. I can see the attraction in both views.

I would say former employee's. it is an interesting case in management styles. Amy came out of Big Law, she had an extremely stable tenure as county prosecutor slightly less then normal turn over. In the Senate she has had one of the top turnovers from the beginning. I do know several former staffers and the overall consensus is that they just burn out. It was the pace more then anything and the Washington staff was much more effected then the home state or campaign staffs.
It is also interesting that the turn over statistics seem to indicate a gender component. I note that in one of her years seven of the top 10 in turnover were woman.
Also she gets poached more then most out of a staff of 30 the Obama administration grabbed 33.
Given the campaign and the lack of staff stories associated with it that she is intense but fair. That she has a temper but only lets it out when she feels safe with friends.

As far as Trump goes, it is interesting to look at how She and Harris question in the committee. Harris aggressively points out you are a fool, Klobuchar lets them do it themselves. I actually think Amy's way is better with Trump.

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brooklynite

(94,552 posts)
21. I don't want to be "impressed", I want to know she can win the nomination and then the GE.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:45 AM
Dec 2019
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judeling

(1,086 posts)
23. The GE Definitely
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:25 AM
Dec 2019

Indeed the most likely to do that although several can.
But what she is even more likely to do is bring others along. Interesting factoid not only is she always the top vote getter statewide, not only has she won every congressional district each time, but every time she has run at least one of the state chambers flipped to Team D.

The Nomination perhaps not.
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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
28. I kinda think she could, otherwise I wouldn't be posting this...
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:33 AM
Dec 2019

She has a personal story that is riveting about her alcoholic father and how his tragedy has spurred her interest in addiction and how government can help substance abusers overcome them. Sensible.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
25. Klobuchar could be Biden's pick for VP
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:14 AM
Dec 2019
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
41. I hope so
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:20 PM
Dec 2019

She would be great.

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Raine

(30,540 posts)
26. At first for me she was in the background but as I paid more attention
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:48 AM
Dec 2019

to her I realized how much I really like her and believe she's the most electable.

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lapfog_1

(29,204 posts)
27. I support Joe
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:49 AM
Dec 2019

but I could support Klobuchar if Joe stumbles in the early primaries.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
29. She was originally in my
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:39 AM
Dec 2019

top three.

She now falls behind Buttigieg and Booker in my rankings. One reason that I have downgraded her is because of her gratuitous (IMO) snipes against Warren.

She is very smart, IMO, and a hard worker. But she makes me have to grit my teeth.

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
33. Oh, I didn't know about that. What did she say? Was it on policy or more personal?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:11 AM
Dec 2019

I must say I've been quite upset of late over the mfa fallout that is more than likely later in the campaign if Warren is our candidate. I am not happy about how that is being handled. I think it was left too vague.

Bottom line, we have to win in 2020 and get this orange menace out of the WH. Period.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
36. Your bottom line
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:28 PM
Dec 2019

is my bottom line.

**********

But it isn't enough! I don't want the "same-old same-old" when Dems win, because we simply cannot afford to let the criminals keep getting away with their crimes. We keep trying to be the better persons and move forward, but GOPers just see us as suckers for doing so and keep on with their nastiness.

That happened after Iran-Contra; it happened after Guantanamo and torture; it happened after our financial system nearly fell apart in 2008 ... and the real culprits never paid the price. They just slithered into their holes for awhile and came out again when they thought it was safe with 45.

The corruption has GOT to be dug out by its roots.

As it is now, even if we win the Presidency and even if we are miraculously able to have both a Dem House and Senate, we must literally rebuild most of our our institutions from the bottom up again. What credibility and influence we have lost on the international playing field will take generations to claw back. And it may be too late for us ALL wrt climate change.

******************

Any Democratic candidate who does NOT realize this will NOT be the candidate that we need.

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
39. This is an awesome task and that is why we need a strong woman at the controls!
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:49 PM
Dec 2019

I am sick and tired of the "too far left" meme that the media is trying to put over on us! IMO, and to my great dismay, Warren didn't have a powerful rejoinder on mfa. It was not strong enough to satisfy the media so back we go again to the "too left" business.

I know. I want a "bullet proof" woman candidate. Yeah, I do. Or at least one who's not gonna get the "socialism" label hung around her neck. Our necks. I'm tired of "explaining." And the "undecideds" aren't gonna buy it because the repukes will twist the explanation any way they want to.

We gotta win the election before we can do anything about health care or the environment or safeguarding a woman's right to choose.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
34. That is an interesting Dynamic
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:56 AM
Dec 2019

Between the two. They have been going at each other for years, in a friendly way more or less.
Amy points out the political weaknesses in Warren's plans and Warren chides Klobuchar for not pushing even harder.

The back and forth they have had over anti-trust over the last couple of years is fascinating.

These two are well suited for each other. To be honest I see Warren as Klobuchar's Frances Perkins.

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JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
30. I don't think
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:35 AM
Dec 2019

Trump will debate our Candidate. So that's not a scenario in play for me. 45 is too are and it will play to his base.

Personally? I love her. She's tough as nails and has very little tolerance for nonsense.

And so what if she was "mean" to employees? Men are mean all of the time and no calls it mean . . . It's called Leadership.

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
31. i always liked amy..i hope shes on the ticket somewhere with someone...
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:36 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
42. That
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:22 PM
Dec 2019

Rhymes with oh perhaps?

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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
37. "Amy strikes me as having a cool hand but comes from strength..."
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:30 PM
Dec 2019

This. I am big on Klobuchar.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
43. Amy clicks a lot of boxes on my check list for VP.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:27 PM
Dec 2019

She could help the ticket win, especially in the Northern-Central swing states.

She could help get legislation pushed through Congress (and has one of the best records for doing so as a Senator).

And she'd make a great loyal partner for Joe Biden.

I've long thought Biden would want someone to serve as VP who was "his Biden" to President Obama. A real team-mate with a close personal connection.

No one fits the bill better than Amy Klobachar to my way of thinking

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