Democratic Primaries

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,348 posts) Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:12 AM Nov 2019

Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders Draw Largest Iowa Crowd of Democratic Primary So Far with Call for 'Solida

Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders Draw Largest Iowa Crowd of Democratic Primary So Far with Call for 'Solidarity' Over Unity

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/09/ocasio-cortez-and-sanders-draw-largest-iowa-crowd-democratic-primary-so-far-call

Joined by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Friday night, Sen. Bernie Sanders held the largest rally of any 2020 Democratic presidential candidate to date in Iowa, drawing more than 2,400 people to Iowa Western Community College in Council Bluffs.

The campaign and its supporters applauded the evening as the latest evidence of Sanders's momentum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders Draw Largest Iowa Crowd of Democratic Primary So Far with Call for 'Solida (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 OP

MSNBC reported the crowd to be in the "hundreds". George II Nov 2019 #1

Yes cause they are right about everything. I'll take the Iowa newspaper over them anyday. vsrazdem Nov 2019 #4

Okay. It was the biggest crowd to witness a rally in Iowa. Period. George II Nov 2019 #9

Why are you purposely misrepresenting the OP. Largest rally in Iowa this primary. vsrazdem Nov 2019 #11

Perhaps because the crowd sizes are always exaggerated? It was a college gymnasium!! George II Nov 2019 #13

So you would know more than the local press that was there? vsrazdem Nov 2019 #17

"Yes cause the local media are right about everything" LanternWaste Nov 2019 #39

The Iowa newspaper also mentioned the Green New Deal as a "comprehensive bill". lapucelle Nov 2019 #26

I read the damn bill. It's basically an outline not a detailed bill. George II Nov 2019 #33

One imagines the media you draw from is "right about everything" as well. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #38

Gotta hand it to you, George... HerbChestnut Nov 2019 #6

Why thank you, Herb. Glad you're keeping a log of my posts. George II Nov 2019 #8

I tend to frequent Bernie and Warren threads, and you're always near the top. HerbChestnut Nov 2019 #16

Think eBay crazytown Nov 2019 #20

I appreciate George's efforts to keep things real. Deserves to be at the top. MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #23

There are five "Democratic Primaries" OPs on the front page. I generally read them all.... George II Nov 2019 #30

A case in point: George II Nov 2019 #35

George II is fast on the uptake ritapria Nov 2019 #29

I've been a loyal Democrat since before the 1972 Presidential election, I'm not going to change now. George II Nov 2019 #31

Ok boomer. HerbChestnut Nov 2019 #36

Facts matter. vsrazdem Nov 2019 #12

It was a small crowd n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #2

But I hear it was a "perfect" crowd. George II Nov 2019 #3

ok ok .. a "perfect" and small crowd n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #14

Not. vsrazdem Nov 2019 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Nov 2019 #27

I heard thousands couldn't get in redstateblues Nov 2019 #7

Millions. George II Nov 2019 #10

I know .. hundreds of thousands were stacked outside n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #15

This preoccupation Skidmore Nov 2019 #18

I know, right? ronnie624 Nov 2019 #25

Things could be worse. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #28

It was an exciting rally. Bernie and his supporters have found their groove. Nanjeanne Nov 2019 #19

The excitement of celebrity. crazytown Nov 2019 #21

I was excited by what the speakers said. So was the audience. Nanjeanne Nov 2019 #22

OK crazytown Nov 2019 #24

Nobody disputes Bernie's ability to draw rally crowds... brooklynite Nov 2019 #32

So he's matched Pete's crowd size FreeState Nov 2019 #34

Bernie drew the biggest crowds in 2016 Xandric77 Nov 2019 #37

AOC has star power. No doubt about it. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #40

George II

(67,782 posts)

1. MSNBC reported the crowd to be in the "hundreds".

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:18 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)

4. Yes cause they are right about everything. I'll take the Iowa newspaper over them anyday.

Reply to George II (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:26 AM

Nov 2019

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders and U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez drew more than 2,000 people to Drake University on Saturday to hear them rail against the climate crisis and the oil companies they blame for it, and promote their "Green New Deal."

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/11/08/bernie-sanders-aoc-push-green-new-deal-iowa-rally-council-bluffs/2521316001/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

9. Okay. It was the biggest crowd to witness a rally in Iowa. Period.

Reply to vsrazdem (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:33 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)

11. Why are you purposely misrepresenting the OP. Largest rally in Iowa this primary.

Reply to George II (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

Nov 2019

I think its great when any our candidates have large crowds. That means people are interesting, excited and listening, but it seems that every post where Bernie has a crowd people have to poo-poo it and put him down. Is SAD.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

13. Perhaps because the crowd sizes are always exaggerated? It was a college gymnasium!!

Reply to vsrazdem (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:54 AM

Nov 2019

Most likely the fire marshals would not have permitted 2400 in that space.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)

17. So you would know more than the local press that was there?

Reply to George II (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:25 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

39. "Yes cause the local media are right about everything"

Reply to vsrazdem (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 04:29 PM

Nov 2019

It would be funny if you were able to perceive the irony.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lapucelle

(18,369 posts)

26. The Iowa newspaper also mentioned the Green New Deal as a "comprehensive bill".

Reply to vsrazdem (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:42 PM

Nov 2019

Ocasio-Cortez is a lead sponsor of the “Green New Deal,” a comprehensive bill to remake the economy around fighting climate change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

33. I read the damn bill. It's basically an outline not a detailed bill.

Reply to lapucelle (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:23 PM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

38. One imagines the media you draw from is "right about everything" as well.

Reply to vsrazdem (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 04:28 PM

Nov 2019

Odd how you use the very mechanism (the media) to validate your narrative that you use to criticize that of others... but I get it-- we pretend one media is better than another, without any objective evidence to support that implicit premise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

6. Gotta hand it to you, George...

Reply to George II (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:29 AM

Nov 2019

You often find a way to get the first comment in a Bernie thread.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

8. Why thank you, Herb. Glad you're keeping a log of my posts.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:32 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

16. I tend to frequent Bernie and Warren threads, and you're always near the top.

Reply to George II (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:10 AM

Nov 2019

Kinda hard to miss...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

20. Think eBay

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:49 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)

23. I appreciate George's efforts to keep things real. Deserves to be at the top.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:56 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

30. There are five "Democratic Primaries" OPs on the front page. I generally read them all....

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:47 PM

Nov 2019

More often than not there's at least one about Sanders, sometimes two or three. If I were to comment in each, what do you think the odds are that I'd be commenting on a Sanders thread? Sometimes 2 or 3 of 5, and rarely zero.

I, and many here probably comment less on Warren, Biden, and other candidates' threads simply because there are less than Sanders threads.

Finally, as I said Herb, I'm so glad you're keeping track of my posting frequency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

35. A case in point:

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 03:12 PM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ritapria

(1,812 posts)

29. George II is fast on the uptake

Reply to George II (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:07 PM

Nov 2019

I wish he would change his mind and support Bernie ; but I'm not holding my breath …….

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

31. I've been a loyal Democrat since before the 1972 Presidential election, I'm not going to change now.

Reply to ritapria (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:48 PM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

36. Ok boomer.

Reply to George II (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 03:49 PM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)

12. Facts matter.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:48 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)

2. It was a small crowd n/t

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:21 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

3. But I hear it was a "perfect" crowd.

Reply to PhoenixDem (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:26 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)

14. ok ok .. a "perfect" and small crowd n/t

Reply to George II (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:02 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)

5. Not.

Reply to PhoenixDem (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:27 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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redstateblues

(10,565 posts)

7. I heard thousands couldn't get in

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:30 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

10. Millions.

Reply to redstateblues (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:34 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)

15. I know .. hundreds of thousands were stacked outside n/t

Reply to redstateblues (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:04 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)

18. This preoccupation

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:53 AM

Nov 2019

with crowd size during this election cycle is getting laughable. Both sides.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)

25. I know, right?

Reply to Skidmore (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:34 PM

Nov 2019

You can't tell if a candidate is popular by noting the number of supporters they attract. Jeez.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TexasTowelie

(112,542 posts)

28. Things could be worse.

Reply to Skidmore (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:05 PM

Nov 2019

The preoccupation could be about the size of something else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Nanjeanne

(5,003 posts)

19. It was an exciting rally. Bernie and his supporters have found their groove.

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:18 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

21. The excitement of celebrity.

Reply to Nanjeanne (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:52 AM

Nov 2019

College kids turning up to see AOC. Making sure it's not done with mirrors.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Nanjeanne

(5,003 posts)

22. I was excited by what the speakers said. So was the audience.

Reply to crazytown (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:54 AM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

24. OK

Reply to Nanjeanne (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:57 AM

Nov 2019

First hand experience tops snark Excitement is good, if sustained.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

brooklynite

(94,808 posts)

32. Nobody disputes Bernie's ability to draw rally crowds...

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:13 PM

Nov 2019

...translating rally crowds to voters is the problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

FreeState

(10,585 posts)

34. So he's matched Pete's crowd size

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:59 PM

Nov 2019

More than 2,300 people stood in a steady rain for a Buttigieg rally in a downtown plaza where Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter Ben Harper performed, and the candidate gave a speech and thanked the “Barnstormers for Pete,” a group of die-hard supporters that travels the country to boost the mayor’s candidacy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/politics/elections/ct-iowa-joe-biden-pete-buttigieg-2020-presidential-race-moderates-20191107-qdqrz2fb3fd55o4xlkaq2ogzye-story.html%3foutputType=amp

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Xandric77

(54 posts)

37. Bernie drew the biggest crowds in 2016

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 04:02 PM

Nov 2019

But the one with the tiny crowds won the nomination

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)

40. AOC has star power. No doubt about it.

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 04:43 PM

Nov 2019

Sad what has happened to Sanders in just the last couple of years. Those who were once looking to him are now trying to lead him. Amazing how fast things can change once you reach a certain age.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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