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HMMMMMMMMMMM (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 OP
I still don't get why we think Trump is even gonna be an option in 2020 jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #1
This midterm victory was because of center-left wins primarily, not far-left. scheming daemons Feb 2019 #2
please provide jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #4
AOC wasn't a seat flip. scheming daemons Feb 2019 #7
Dems lost the burbs in 014 by twelve points. They were tied in the burbs in 018 DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #8
There's two. The one you are thinking of.... plus Tulsi Gabbard. scheming daemons Feb 2019 #10
She has no chance. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #11
you still have failed to provide a source jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #9
Arizona needs 100,000 D voters Tetrachloride Feb 2019 #3
Arizona needs fewer conservatives Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #5
The most remarkable thing about that poll to me is how poorly one candidate is doing. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #6
 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
1. I still don't get why we think Trump is even gonna be an option in 2020
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:52 PM
Feb 2019

he will be gone...just say Republican...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
2. This midterm victory was because of center-left wins primarily, not far-left.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:53 PM
Feb 2019

37 of the 40 seats gained were won by establishment candidates, not AOC/Bernie clones.


If we nominate Bernie or Warren... we will lose to Trump.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
4. please provide
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

your source for this...I find it extremely hard to believe. You really have not noticed the gigantic appeal of AOC...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
7. AOC wasn't a seat flip.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:33 PM
Feb 2019

The overwhelming number of seat flips went to candidates like Conor Lamb.... *NOT* candidates like AOC.

She won an already-Democratic seat.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
8. Dems lost the burbs in 014 by twelve points. They were tied in the burbs in 018
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:36 PM
Feb 2019

That is how we won the mid terms. There is one candidate who threatens those gains in 2020 and consequently our chances of victory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
10. There's two. The one you are thinking of.... plus Tulsi Gabbard.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:58 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
9. you still have failed to provide a source
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:48 PM
Feb 2019

other than yourself...sorry, not buying it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Tetrachloride

(7,940 posts)
3. Arizona needs 100,000 D voters
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

to overcome the loss in the 2016 Presidential election. [link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Arizona]Arizona Wiki election 2016[link]

Perhaps some Californians can move there for a couple months.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
5. Arizona needs fewer conservatives
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:21 PM
Feb 2019

Interesting state. Evolving state. The early polling often has trouble capturing true mood in an evolving state, because the template is out of date. That's why I wouldn't put full stock in a poll like this.

It is true that Arizona has more Republicans than Democrats (32-28 in 2016), which is opposite of most swing states. But there are high number of liberals -- 27% in the 2016 Arizona exit poll. Once I saw that 27% a day or two after the 2016 election I was amazed and encouraged. In the 26 years I have been following this, Arizona 2016 was the first state to ever report more conservatives than the national average and also more liberals than the national average. There are a high number of registered independents in Arizona but they aren't shy about listing an ideology, when asked, at least compared to the trend elsewhere.

The 40% conservatives still makes Arizona an unlikely state in a 50/50 environment. It would need to drop to 37% or thereabouts before we could be expected to pick off Arizona in a dead even race. It is similar to Virginia maybe a dozen years ago in that regard, and more recently Nevada. In those states I didn't fret the bottom line as much as how many people were calling themselves conservative.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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