Joe Biden reportedly denied Communion at a South Carolina church because of his stance on abortion

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Former vice president Joe Biden was reportedly denied Communion on Sunday morning at a church in Florence, S.C., where he was making a campaign stop.

The Rev. Robert E. Morey of Saint Anthony Catholic Church, told a local newspaper that Biden, who is running in the 2020 presidential election, attended his church’s 9 a.m. Mass. Morey said he denied Biden Communion because of the Democratic candidate’s political stance on abortion.

“Holy Communion signifies we are one with God, each other and the Church. Our actions should reflect that,” Morey said in a statement to the Morning News. “Any public figure who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching.”

Morey did not immediately return a phone call and email request for comment on Tuesday.

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[redstatebluegirl]

1. Oh good grief.

A friend of mine was refused communion in a church in Illinois because someone in the church saw her name on a list of donors to Planned Parenthood. Two weeks later I went home and told my parents I was leaving the church. I now identify as a "recovering Catholic", even have a bumper sticker that says this.

The church is so far behind the times it is impossible to imagine anyone wanting to become a member.

[Hortensis]

2. Okay. The team was supposed to vet the aminister and select

an appropriate church. Or they did and he was ambushed. That's also possible.

Whatever.

[boomer_wv]

9. Assuming

That being denied communion isnt a better outcome politically.

[Blue_true]

48. That happened to a democrat before. The priest caught holy hell and vanished from

the pulpit.

[Hortensis]

55. It's not. Religion lite is very respectable and accepted.

It only becomes questionable to a serious majority when public officials think they should be serving and applying "god's" law and will over that of our secular democracy.

[cwydro]

38. Yeah, kinda seems like poor planning.

[Gothmog]

3. Franklin Graham calls on pastors and priests to deny pro-choice politicians communion like one just

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[Mandeville]

4. another reason to be an ex-Catholic

[MBS]

12. there are different kinds of Catholics

Unfortunately, it's the far-right, authoritarian version, like the priest who denied Biden communion (SIGH), that get all the press (and also do all the damage)

Every religion that I know about has both a fundamentalist/militant/"hate the infidels" wing and a "love and tolerance" wing: Catholicism, Islam, Judaism, Protestant denominations, even Hinduism.

[demigoddess]

5. another reason to be a heathen.

it is not what you think you should do, it is what you want to force other people to do.

[IADEMO2004]

6. I never liked eating Jesus anyway

[Blue_true]

49. That is a strange concept, isn't it.

But all of the dogma of Christianity was taken from prior religions or paganism. It is totally possible that in one prior religion or pagan ritual, the flesh of a deceased wise-one was eaten to somehow sanctify the flesh eaters.

[IADEMO2004]

52. Food for Thought. apologies

[Sanity Claws]

7. The Church should reprimand that priest

That priest is a publicity whore. Why else would he make a statement to the Morning News?

[Turin_C3PO]

8. Then they

better deny pro-death penalty politicians communion too.

[George II]

11. You noticed that too. Over the years I've noticed that close to 100% of those "anti-abortion"...

....are also "pro-death penalty". Talk about hypocrisy.

[George II]

10. The three Catholic Churches that we attend (depending upon the time of the masses)....

....don't deny Communion to anyone simply because of their stances on abortion.

Morey should be sanctioned by the Catholic Church. Joe Biden isn't explicitly "pro-abortion", in fact I would bet he's against abortion. However, he like many other sensible Democratic politicians feel that no one should be denied an abortion if she so chooses to have one. That's why politicians don't say they're "pro-abortion" but "pro-choice".

That's a HUGE distinction. This has come up countless times over the years, the earliest I can remember (although maybe not the first) is when Mario Cuomo articulated this well. He was anti-abortion but left the choice to the individual.

[MBS]

13. thank you. n/t

[WhiskeyGrinder]

14. "The three Catholic Churches that we attend (depending upon the time of the masses)

....don't deny Communion to anyone simply because of their stances on abortion."

Do...do they have people fill out a questionnaire, or what?

[George II]

15. No, but in their bulletins and publications they give their formal opinion. They are ANTI-abortion..

..and imply that the act of having an abortion is wrong in their eyes. But clearly Joe Biden and all the men in our congregations have not had abortions.

Plus receiving Communion for someone who has "sinned" is considered a personal choice by many Catholics. The Pope has even allowed divorced Catholics to receive Communion in many circumstance.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

17. Don't ask, don't tell; which is what most of them do.

[melman]

22. This is totally wrong

It doesn't just apply to the woman who actually has the abortion. It's anyone who procures, performs, pays for or helps facilitate it.

[George II]

23. Do you regularly attend Catholic Church? If you do and pay attention....

....you'd know that what I said it correct.

Okay, now go find some link that contradicts what I said, I'm sure there is one out there.

[OnDoutside]

30. It depends on the priest. You're lucky where you are by the sound of it.

[George II]

31. It's the archdiocese, not the individual priest. They don't condone abortion and it's still a sin..

...but one who simply does not condemn abortion itself isn't denied Communion for that.

[OnDoutside]

33. Again, you're lucky where you are. In the run up to the Abortion

Referendum here in Ireland, one of the older priests in our local church, having read out the "hold the party line" letter from the bishop, went further saying anyone voting against it was committing a sin and shouldn't be receiving communion.

[cwydro]

39. So women who have an abortion are wrong "in their eyes," but doctors, husbands etc. are A-OK?

Sheesh.

[George II]

40. I don't know the details of all possibilities, but my point is that someone who is "pro-choice"....

....is not a sinner.

[melman]

21. No they don't

And it's not the kind of thing they'd ever put in a bulletin either.

[George II]

25. So you're calling me a liar, eh?

[redqueen]

20. Must be one of those Opus Dei churches. nt

[Blue_true]

50. No one that I ever met is pro-abortion.

That is a label that the right tagged democrats with and we foolishly failed to aggressively challenge that label.

[Peacetrain]

16. So what.. the shame is on that priest not VP Biden.. this is his church

and if he is denied communion at this Catholic Church.. does not mean he is denied communion at every Catholic Church.. Congregations have personalities just like town, neighborhoods... you don't stop being an American.. you don't stop being a Catholic... you go Joe..

[bullwinkle428]

18. Did anyone ask the fine Reverend what the church's position is on

putting children into cages?

[OnDoutside]

29. To be fair, the Catholic church has been quite vociferous in

fighting against the Trump cage policy. But of course they can be hardline and hypocritical when it comes to protecting kiddie fiddlers, for fear of litigation.

[awesomerwb1]

34. Do you happen to watch EWTN?

Just curious if you do, if they ever mention that?

Because I had a housemate who loved to watch tyhatchannel and when I tried watching it with her, it was like watching fox news. Russiapublican guests left and right.

*Ex-Catholic here.

[OnDoutside]

45. No, I wouldn't go near that stuff. On the Sky satellite TV, all the

religious channels are grouped together out of the way on high channel numbers, which is handy I'd come across it from time to time, briefly.

40 years ago, there was 85%+ mass attendance in Ireland, nowadays it's down to about 30%+ and it didn't have to be that way.

[BlueMTexpat]

19. Ridiculous.

Simply ridiculous.

And why I am .a recovering Catholic - and have been one for 50+ years.

[Bettie]

24. John Kerry was refused communion at least a couple of times too

it's the thing that conservative Catholics do when they want to insist that he's not part of that club.

[karynnj]

41. I don't think he was - in a few articles, it was mentioned that his campaign staff called

churches to make sure that he would not be embarrassed that way. He quietly went to church most Sundays.

The story was that some priests and a Colorado bishop told the press he would be denied communion, but I don't think he was ever actually denied communion.

[Bettie]

43. OK, they announced loudly that they'd deny

and then it got worked out then....that was a long time ago.

[karynnj]

44. They were loud

In one article I read, the reason it was mentioned was to show what a priority it was of some of his staff to insure that they could tell him if there was a nearby church that he could quietly attend. The sad thing about that - and the Biden case - is that neither were trying to use going to church as a political event, but as a personal religious attendance. Sad because it showed that they very likely cared.

[kozar]

26. but ok to

administer to the adulterers,drunks,addicts.swindlers,etc ,etc

[YOHABLO]

27. I guess receiving communion is okay if you're a pedophile and molest young boys and girls.

[OnDoutside]

28. It's a Don't Tell and We won't ask policy. Unfortunately, what's left

running the church are hardliners who positively rejoice in telling people to leave the church if they don't completely obey.

[treestar]

57. Or even to give it out

that's a good point. The priest is sanctified to turn the bread into the body and the wine into blood, so of all people to judge others in the event they are the ones committing other wrongs, that's even worse.

[Collimator]

32. Mafiosos are treated as members of the Church in good standing.

No matter what an open secret their "business" dealings are to the local community and to the local Church.

[yardwork]

37. How Christian of them. /nt

[Jake Stern]

42. Maybe Joe should look into the Episcopal Church

I used to attend services at one in Missouri. Loads of former Catholics who wanted the liturgy and ceremony but not the arch-conservative social stands.

They ordain LGBT and women into the priesthood and consecrate them as bishops. They tend to skew liberal in social issues.

[Odoreida]

46. Seriously, so what?

To his credit, Joe himself is not making an issue of it.

[UniteFightBack]

47. DICK. nt

[kimbutgar]

51. Ho hum this is a bs political stun the priest is a gop operative getting paid extra in the

Donation box. He really make catholic priests look petty for partisan purposes.

[delisen]

53. Churches and God-not identical

Churches that want to be God-too many and almost all run by males.

Priestly humility-something we need more of

Blasphemy-this sin includes speaking for God

Judge not lest you be judged- something to ponder for those who claim to serve God

[Cha]

54. Biden's "stance" is Pro Choice.. the

woman can make up her own mind.

[treestar]

56. IMO that is wrong

The church purports to dictate not only how you decide an issue, but on your political position on it?

[Act_of_Reparation]

58. Yes, of course they do.

They're a religion. Dictating morality is literally their function.

[Gothmog]

59. Maybe the Catholic Church should worry less about Joe Biden and more about the abuse of children:

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[Gothmog]

60. Politicizing Communion is pastoral malpractice

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