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Physicians for a National Health Program @PNHP ( Medicare for All ) (Original Post) BeckyDem Oct 2019 OP
There are no losers and it's unreasonable for no one. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #1
A dose of reality for Medicare-for-all Gothmog Oct 2019 #2
A Trump electing idea? BeckyDem Oct 2019 #3
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
1. There are no losers and it's unreasonable for no one. NT
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 07:40 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(142,917 posts)
2. A dose of reality for Medicare-for-all
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 01:11 PM
Oct 2019



Now we have two more data points. The quite credible think tank, Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, comes up with some options assuming a cost of $30 trillion over the next decade (a midway point in the range of estimates):

We estimate the cost could be covered with a 32 percent payroll tax, a 25 percent income surtax, a 42 percent value-added tax, or a public premium averaging $7,500 per capita or more than $12,000 per individual who wouldn’t otherwise be enrolled in Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP. Medicare for All could also be paid for by more than doubling individual and corporate income tax rates, reducing federal spending by 80 percent, or increasing the national debt by 108 percent of GDP. Tax increases on high earners, corporations, and the financial sector by themselves could not cover much more than one-third of the cost of Medicare for All.


But you say, none of that is remotely feasible politically and would have all sorts of negative economic consequences.

Warren actually has an even harder task since CFRB does not exempt the middle class. Therefore, Warren cannot use “a 32 percent payroll tax, a 25 percent income surtax, a 42 percent value-added tax, or a public premium averaging $7,500 per capita” if they are going to hit the middle class to such an extent that it wipes out savings from removing insurance premiums, co-pays, deductibles, etc. This is the equivalent of trying to balance on elephant on the head of a pin.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
3. A Trump electing idea?
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 07:12 PM
Oct 2019

Please post that garbage elsewhere please.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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