
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:36 PM
Bradshaw3 (6,889 posts)
No one shows up to Joe Biden debate parties
From the Philadelphia Inquirer, in Biden's home state of Pennsylvania:
https://www.inquirer.com/news/joe-biden-enthusiasm-philadelphia-sad-watch-parties-elizabeth-warren-grassroots-fundraising-20191020.html "The two men watched in silence and both left before the three-hour debate ended. A reporter turned off the TV on her way out. Bradford’s was one of three watch parties within a 20-mile radius of Center City registered with the campaign. None drew more than seven people." “What surprises me is, Philly, you’d expect it to be Bidentown,” she said. “It really hasn’t felt like that.” Enthusiasm matters when it comes to winning elections, whether some like to admit it or not.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Bradshaw3 | Oct 2019 | OP |
Scurrilous | Oct 2019 | #1 | |
Kahuna7 | Oct 2019 | #33 | |
Bradshaw3 | Oct 2019 | #38 | |
Blue_true | Oct 2019 | #48 | |
crazytown | Oct 2019 | #53 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Oct 2019 | #2 | |
Dennis Donovan | Oct 2019 | #3 | |
Raven123 | Oct 2019 | #45 | |
Dennis Donovan | Oct 2019 | #47 | |
thesquanderer | Oct 2019 | #6 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Oct 2019 | #8 | |
cwydro | Oct 2019 | #23 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Oct 2019 | #24 | |
redqueen | Oct 2019 | #32 | |
jberryhill | Oct 2019 | #29 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #13 | |
MarcA | Oct 2019 | #7 | |
ritapria | Oct 2019 | #12 | |
sacto95834 | Oct 2019 | #28 | |
still_one | Oct 2019 | #36 | |
Blue_true | Oct 2019 | #49 | |
redstateblues | Oct 2019 | #4 | |
Bradshaw3 | Oct 2019 | #39 | |
Think-b4-U-act | Oct 2019 | #5 | |
awesomerwb1 | Oct 2019 | #17 | |
Think-b4-U-act | Oct 2019 | #26 | |
awesomerwb1 | Oct 2019 | #35 | |
Think-b4-U-act | Oct 2019 | #46 | |
woodsprite | Oct 2019 | #9 | |
jberryhill | Oct 2019 | #30 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #10 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Oct 2019 | #11 | |
LanternWaste | Oct 2019 | #14 | |
LeftTurn3623 | Oct 2019 | #20 | |
PhoenixDem | Oct 2019 | #15 | |
Scurrilous | Oct 2019 | #22 | |
redqueen | Oct 2019 | #25 | |
Trenzalore | Oct 2019 | #42 | |
LakeArenal | Oct 2019 | #16 | |
Skya Rhen | Oct 2019 | #18 | |
LeftTurn3623 | Oct 2019 | #19 | |
redqueen | Oct 2019 | #21 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | Oct 2019 | #27 | |
jberryhill | Oct 2019 | #31 | |
Bradshaw3 | Oct 2019 | #40 | |
janterry | Oct 2019 | #34 | |
myohmy2 | Oct 2019 | #37 | |
Trenzalore | Oct 2019 | #41 | |
Otto Lidenbrock | Oct 2019 | #43 | |
Kitchari | Oct 2019 | #44 | |
redqueen | Oct 2019 | #50 | |
PupCamo | Oct 2019 | #51 | |
OhZone | Oct 2019 | #52 |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:40 PM
Scurrilous (38,676 posts)
1. There's no party like a debate party!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Scurrilous (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:09 PM
Kahuna7 (2,531 posts)
33. Surely. nt
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Scurrilous (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:57 PM
Bradshaw3 (6,889 posts)
38. True for Biden parties as the article showed
The other candidates had more people - and more fun!!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Scurrilous (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:01 PM
Blue_true (31,261 posts)
48. Are you serious?
Lots of beer and even soapboxes, if you can stand for long.
Gee, I live my life for the chance to attend debate parties. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Scurrilous (Reply #1)
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 12:08 AM
crazytown (7,277 posts)
53. Warren watch party
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:41 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (107,038 posts)
2. I don't understand the attraction of debate parties at all,
no matter who your favorite candidate is. The debates aren't real debates and they don't give the candidates a reasonable chance to explain anything; they're just fluff for the networks. I'd rather stay home and watch Netflix with my cats than go to a debate party. Maybe the apparent lack of enthusiasm has more to do with the dumb debate format and the fact that there are too many debates and too many candidates.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:48 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)
3. 30 yrs ago, we had a lot of fun with them
We'd invite everyone over to the house and would hand each of them a rubber-suction-cupped-tipped dart pistol. Whenever Bush and / or Quayle came on the screen, I'd announce, "Ready! Aim! Fire!". My old TV (32" RCA XL-100) was covered in spittle!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #3)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 07:19 PM
Raven123 (3,942 posts)
45. Were the debates as numerous, as long, and did they start 18 months before an election?
And were there as many candidates?
It is just a different time I imagine. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Raven123 (Reply #45)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:38 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)
47. This was Oct 1988 - campaigns *started* around Dec 87
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:52 PM
thesquanderer (11,555 posts)
6. All your reasons to not go to a debate party are also valid for not watching the debate at all.
At least the debate party is a way to meet people and socially-network IRL.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to thesquanderer (Reply #6)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:53 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (107,038 posts)
8. But I hate meeting people and socially networking!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:41 PM
cwydro (49,101 posts)
23. Lol, I'm exactly the same way.
Rather be home with my critters any day of the week!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to cwydro (Reply #23)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:46 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (107,038 posts)
24. I am wondering whether debate parties are somewhat less of a thing now
because of so many ways of communicating in real time through social media. I certainly don't think they are useful as a measure of a candidate's support.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #24)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:07 PM
redqueen (112,669 posts)
32. Yes they're still a thing.
But yeah, not exactly a measure of support. That's just the good old MSM doing what they do.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:01 PM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
29. Next thing you know, they are asking to borrow money and sleeping with your partner
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to thesquanderer (Reply #6)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:58 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
13. Who would want to sit in a room with a bunch of other people talking and cheering? I'd prefer....
...staying at home and actually hearing what the candidates say. When my wife and I watch a debate, neither of us talk much.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:53 PM
MarcA (2,145 posts)
7. According to the article debate parties apparently aren't a thing for his supporters.
That said, these gatherings appear to be more of a social get-together for friends.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:56 PM
ritapria (1,812 posts)
12. If they would hold a debate with no more than 6 candidates
It might be worth spending the time to go to a debate party …….I'm not interested in hearing anymore from candidates who have ZERO chance of being nominated …..The next debate will be in November .. Isn't it time to get serious ? ….
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:01 PM
sacto95834 (393 posts)
28. Debate Parties can be fun...
with drinks. On certain words or phases everyone takes a drink.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:35 PM
still_one (87,290 posts)
36. +++++
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:02 PM
Blue_true (31,261 posts)
49. Yeah. They are one of those seriously in the weeds things. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:48 PM
redstateblues (10,559 posts)
4. What an incredibly boring way to spend a night
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to redstateblues (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:58 PM
Bradshaw3 (6,889 posts)
39. Certainly was at the Biden "parties"
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:50 PM
Think-b4-U-act (52 posts)
5. It is things like this
that cause me to worry about Biden
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Think-b4-U-act (Reply #5)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:09 PM
awesomerwb1 (4,110 posts)
17. Riiiight
My main worry about him is....why on earth hasn't he revealed what his favorite brand of sneakers is??
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #17)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:56 PM
Think-b4-U-act (52 posts)
26. That too
But he gets no one excited, except for the fact he can beat and replace Trump.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Think-b4-U-act (Reply #26)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:27 PM
awesomerwb1 (4,110 posts)
35. Which is exactly what the planet
is demanding from us?
If beating and replacing trump doesn't get you excited comrade..... ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #35)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 07:45 PM
Think-b4-U-act (52 posts)
46. At the start of the campaign
I supported Biden, but as the campaign went on I Became convinced he can not beat Trump. I want S Brown from Ohio to re-enter the race. All of our present candidates have problems.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:53 PM
woodsprite (11,451 posts)
9. I've lived in northern DE for 56 years and I wouldn't think that Philly would be Bidentown.
Maybe Pittsburgh - MAYBE. I would think more likely Sanders, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg, or O'Rourke.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to woodsprite (Reply #9)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:04 PM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
30. It's because of that Scranton thing he does whenever he runs nationally
If he's not running for president, then he's "Joe who went to school in Claymont" (albeit at Archmere), and not "Joe who grew up in Alapocas". But when he's running for president, then it's "Joe from Scranton". ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:54 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
10. He should drop out immediately!
![]() ![]() Just in case: ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 03:55 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,724 posts)
11. DU certainly has lively debate parties. . . . nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:00 PM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
14. A neighborhood watch party as a measure of electability. That's what we're reduced to?
I guess when you got nothing, nothing is what you're gonna argue...
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LanternWaste (Reply #14)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:29 PM
LeftTurn3623 (628 posts)
20. more excuses
I guess not being able to raise money is no sign of alarm? Lets just keep pretending there is nothing wrong
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:04 PM
PhoenixDem (581 posts)
15. Unless the candidate induces a cult mentality
the supporters prefer to stay home.
Many candidates don't need a ritualistic pilgrimage. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PhoenixDem (Reply #15)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:36 PM
Scurrilous (38,676 posts)
22. ...
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PhoenixDem (Reply #15)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:47 PM
redqueen (112,669 posts)
25. Why so hostile? nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to PhoenixDem (Reply #15)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:37 PM
Trenzalore (2,085 posts)
42. The last guy who won had them nt.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:08 PM
LakeArenal (25,839 posts)
16. This Biden supporter is confident in my choice.
I don’t need validation from a bunch of partiers.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LakeArenal (Reply #16)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:17 PM
Skya Rhen (2,701 posts)
18. +1000
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:27 PM
LeftTurn3623 (628 posts)
19. That is what I have been saying
he cant draw people or money. This could be trouble
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:32 PM
redqueen (112,669 posts)
21. Just more standard political reporting
about things that don't really matter, which is nothing new.
Debate watch parties are a thing. Have been for years. It's not everyone's cup of tea but it allows supporters to network and have fun. More relaxed than the usual get togethers which are more strategy focused. Maybe the campaign should stop listing them on their website if this kind of publicity is unwanted. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 04:58 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,846 posts)
27. No real surprise there... oh well.
![]() Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!! Either way, they're stronger together!! Welcome to the revolution!!! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:05 PM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
31. How many were at the Warren debate party nearby?
C'mon
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to jberryhill (Reply #31)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:00 PM
Bradshaw3 (6,889 posts)
40. Read the artcle
It talks about other parties.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:22 PM
janterry (4,429 posts)
34. He doesn't inspire excitement
n/t
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 05:43 PM
myohmy2 (3,030 posts)
37. sad...
...very sad...
... ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:36 PM
Trenzalore (2,085 posts)
41. Biden is relying on traditional democratic party groups for support
A lot of the politicos and wannabe politicos in the area are behind him. I don't expect him to have much grass roots or youth support in a primary.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:45 PM
Otto Lidenbrock (581 posts)
43. The counter to this is he's probably the candidate with the most entrenched support
He was leading the polls months before jumping in, and it's pretty much exactly six months since he has been in and the lead is still his.
I look at Yang's online support and can't see another candidate with better enthusiasm yet he's still in single digits. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:45 PM
Kitchari (1,816 posts)
44. Perhaps the people who don't have cable tv
Are the ones who like to go to debate parties
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Kitchari (Reply #44)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:38 PM
redqueen (112,669 posts)
50. Good observation, and that number is steadily increasing. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:41 PM
PupCamo (288 posts)
51. glad someone had a hugely huge debate party turn out
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:44 PM
OhZone (3,201 posts)
52. I didn't know there even was such a thing -
as a debate party!
I do my "debate party" here anyways. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |