Okay...I'm sorry...

[SHRED]

Seriously?






Glad it was screenshot.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[frazzled]

1. Um, yah, it's pretty wacky

But, of course, given that we're pretty sure it will not make further landfall, the power of the mind will be thought to have worked!

[tblue37]

45. Pay Robertson took credit for praying away a hurricane once. nt

[dalton99a]

2. Love the storm, embrace it, and gently ask it to move

[Funtatlaguy]

6. Shame she couldn't have moved it from the Bahamas.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

42. Is she running for president as a Democratic Candidate?

Am I in the wrong forum?

[hlthe2b]

3. Well, I'd be content if she stayed at home and prayed and left the serious business of governing

and establishing public policy to those who rely on more intellect and accumulated knowledge and less whispered "spiritual" messages. I'll choose vaccines over prayer, thank you.

[genxlib]

4. Yikes

Saw her on the Daily Show a few weeks ago and she sounded pretty reasonable but she is definitely on the Woo train.

Keep her away from the nomination

[GeorgeGist]

5. Doesn't work on GUNS though.

[Pachamama]

7. So the power of prayer kept Hurricane Dorian sitting over the Bahamas for 2 days????

WTF????

This wins the award for most bizarre tweet ever....

While I believe in the power of the collective mind and even if you want to call it prayer, she completely undermines the whole point of her message....not to mention that she seems to be in agreement that "thoughts and prayers" is a strategy for things.

[Midnightwalk]

23. Those dang reckless prayer-ers

Prayed the storm away from florida without a thought for The Bahamas.

Or something.

[pangaia]

11. "Intent is very, very powerful, "

I caught this, quite amazed that someone would see the truth in it.

Such as-- only conscious prayer has any chance of being fulfilled...

[Farmer-Rick]

19. There is absolutely NO evidence that "Intent" does anything supernatural

How can you believe such things with NO evidence. Prove your extraordinary claim. Test it, prove it. Science has found absolutely NOTHING that proves what you think can affect weather.

"Intent is very, very powerful, and the intent of many is many times very powerful. A few may even be able affect the weather, at least temporarily."

Prayer has been proven time and time again to do absolutely nothing. Isn't that intent? Shouldn't those thoughts have done something? And why weren't the thoughts of the people who live in the Bahamas able to turn the hurricane? There are 395,361 people living there. Why didn't their thoughts move the hurricane away?

Prove it. If this were true, you would have received a Nobel. And you and all the people whose thoughts can affect the weather, would be millionaires by now. Think of all the money you and they could make making it rain in droughts, making it stop raining in floods, making it rain to put out wild fires and making tornadoes move away from cities and towns and making hurricanes turn and destroy the Bahamas. The military would hire you to make destructive weather patterns attack their enemies. There would be just so many wonderful and deadly things you could do it your thoughts, if "intent" could control the weather even temporarily.

[jberryhill]

28. Ah, the Bahamians lacked enough intent to avoid devastation

So, it's basically their fault and they don't deserve help.

[NRaleighLiberal]

9. Wow. How narcissistic. And just flat out weird

All those sinning people in the Bahamas... Shame on them for not praying hard enough.

[AtheistCrusader]

13. It's the 'fuck you, got mine' nature of religion/metaphysical spirituality.

[LanternWaste]

15. I think we can apply that to people as a whole.

As greed is endemic to people, nations and history... independent of any specific religion or philosophy.

[AtheistCrusader]

16. Oh sure, greed is widespread. But things like religion are great force multipliers.

[NRaleighLiberal]

18. Yes. "I'm saved, you're not. Sucks to be you". So destructive.

[SHRED]

27. And some of them go door to door

Acting all humble.

I call bullshit on that arrogance.

[honest.abe]

10. I do believe in the power of prayer but I dont believe we can alter weather with prayer.

Weather is controlled by a incredibly complex interaction of the laws of physics and those laws never change. They have been the same since the universe was created. To alter weather by someone praying would be a violation of those laws.

[Farmer-Rick]

20. Prayer has been proven to do absolutely Nothing

If it could help, people would be paid to do it.

And what about all those poor people who prayed but their prayers were never, ever answered? How does this magical being in the sky decide whose prayers he is going to answer? It's almost as if he is totally random and unpredictable with answering prayers. Just like you would expect if there was no magical being in the sky. Just like you would expect if prayer did absolutely Nothing.

[honest.abe]

24. It is impossible to prove one way or the other.

That's the nature of faith and belief in a higher power.

[Farmer-Rick]

25. No, prayer is NOT God

God can't be proven one way or the other.

But there all sorts of test you can do on prayer. And they have been done. And prayer fails every time. Test it out yourself. It's easy to prove it does not work. You always get results that are no better than chance.

[honest.abe]

26. Never mind.

[jberryhill]

30. Whether sick people get better can be measured with accuracy

[honest.abe]

31. One doesnt always know what the answer is to a particular prayer.

Sometimes what appears good is bad and what appears bad is good.

[jberryhill]

33. Ah, so "sick person not getting better and dying" is good

Okay.

And diseases, unlike weather, are not physical processes?

[honest.abe]

34. Death is inevitable.

[jberryhill]

37. Well, the "power of the mind" can be rescinded too

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/politics/marianne-williamson-hurricane-dorian-tweet-trnd/index.html


Washington (CNN) - Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson posted and then deleted a tweet Wednesday morning that suggested the "power of mind" could deter Hurricane Dorian from slamming into the US.

[honest.abe]

38. Good. That was a rather dumb tweet.

As I said before praying to control the weather is illogical.

[Voltaire2]

40. uh what? Sure you can subject "prayer" to the same sort of efficacy test other medical

procedures are subjected to. And then you can measure the results and see if prayer is effective.

Your faith is not subject to verification, but claims about the real world are.

[honest.abe]

41. I dont pray for things that can be measured like that.

I pray for guidance, i pray to be thankful for what blessings i have, I pray for forgiveness, i pray for others, i pray for God's will. I do pray for good health but I dont blame God if i get sick. Getting sick is part of life.

[bluedigger]

12. It's not like she's taking personal credit for it.

For someone to do something like that would be crazy.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

14. I am really sick of people claiming

that prayer does such things. If prayer is so effective, then why are there any mass shootings any more? Or, why don't most people get cured from Cancer when their church prays for them?

During a recent cold snap one winter, a cousin of mine posted something on FB about praying for the homeless who were sleeping on the streets. I said that visiting them and giving them blankets would be far more effective than a prayer. She didn't respond, but I hope she got in her car and gave out a few blankets. Probably not. People that suggest we pray for some magical relief from whatever rarely do anything actually useful I've noticed.

[SCVDem]

17. Can I take a hit first?

You have to be high to think that will change anything.

These victims need direct intervention on a grand scale.

MOVE IT!

[crazytown]

21. Sweet!

[greatauntoftriplets]

22. Maybe it hit the Bahamas so hard because she left out the "thoughts" part.

Woooooooooooooooooo!

[Faux pas]

29. Sheesh

is she still in the running?

[jberryhill]

32. Because... fuck the Bahamians

[defacto7]

35. I see. Prayer and good thoughts are like voting for god.

There just aren't enough voters in the Bahamas to matter. Maybe we could adjust our storm models to compare the power of the storm with the number of praying people in a given area. This would give us the ability to measure storm movability as well as help us map the areas that have weak faith or low god voting numbers that may deserve an omnipignorant deity.

[question everything]

36. Yet, on these pages she is ahead of Castro, Bullock, Ryan

[nini]

39. boggles the mind - doesn't it?

Scary really.

[Politicub]

44. Dorian did not get enough love in its childhood.

If people had only cared about it when it was a wee tropical depression, it might have been content with itself. But no one cared, and Dorian became angry. The rest is history.