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highplainsdem

(49,005 posts)
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 01:11 PM Aug 2019

Sam Stein: Julian Castro accusing media of swallowing Biden campaign spin re attacks on Obama

Stein is live-tweeting from the AFSCME candidate forum.

The first tweet below is what Castro said onstage.

The second is what he said backstage.




“This is not about criticizing Barack Obama. This is about, ok, what is the next administration going to do.” - Julian Castro on deportations, sort of dialing it back from the debate. He goes on to stress how much worse Trump is than anyone else.






Backstage, Castro accuses the media of swallowing Biden campaign spin in portraying the attacks on him during the debate as attacks on Obama.



I like Julian Castro, a lot.

But this accusation is nonsense. The attacks made on Biden via Obama's record WERE attacks on Obama, and that was seen immediately by viewers at home as well as reporters and pundits.

This wasn't some spin promoted by the Biden campaign.

It was a mistake for our candidates to attack Obama's record, and they're not going to undo that damage by blaming the media and the Biden campaign.
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
1. Castro is projecting. He is the one spinning like a top, desperate to be relevant.
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 01:15 PM
Aug 2019
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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
19. He's a highly accomplished public servant.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 07:48 PM
Aug 2019

He doesn't need to spin to be relevant.

Which of his statements do you disagree with?

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hlthe2b

(102,297 posts)
3. Weak...
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 01:30 PM
Aug 2019

that's all I will say (and yes, I like Castro too)

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4now

(1,596 posts)
4. You followed bad advice and now you try to blame others
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 02:38 PM
Aug 2019

Not a good look.

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tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
5. Desperate candidate desperately clutches at straws
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 02:42 PM
Aug 2019
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oasis

(49,390 posts)
6. Had hopes for Castro, but I'm done with that guy.
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 02:50 PM
Aug 2019
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peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
7. Hello? I listened to the debate and heard the criticism of Obama and his policies
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 02:55 PM
Aug 2019

Joe Biden did not have to 'spin' anything. As I've said elsewhere IMHO this is political malpractice during an election season, particularly with President Obama's soaring approval numbers across the Democratic electorate. And why give the Trumpster ammunition before the battle really gets underway?

Dumb and dumber!

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Cha

(297,323 posts)
12. Who are we gonna believe.. our lying eyes & ears or
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:35 PM
Aug 2019
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peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
14. LOL!!
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:16 PM
Aug 2019

That's about the size of it, Cha!

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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
8. Good God Man.. we were all sitting in our homes listening to it..
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 03:21 PM
Aug 2019
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
9. I had high hopes for Julian. He's now gone from #3 on my list to the bottom with the rest. nt
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:31 PM
Aug 2019
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
10. They were also seen by Democratic Leaders..
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:22 PM
Aug 2019

there were a bunch of them posted on here after it happened.

Thanks, highplainsdem

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highplainsdem

(49,005 posts)
13. Good point! Thanks, Cha!
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:05 PM
Aug 2019
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
16. You're Very Welcome,
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:24 PM
Aug 2019
.. not a good look for Julian Castro. I hate it when anyone tries to gas light.
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
11. Debate Backlash: Many Democrats Say Criticizing Obama's Legacy Isn't A Good Idea
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:31 PM
Aug 2019

“I think attacking President Obama is bad policy and bad politics,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said Thursday. Of Biden’s tenure as vice president, Blumenthal added: “He owns it, for better or worse. But he should be proud of it.”

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois also suggested the Democratic race should be marked by a more hands-off approach toward Obama.

“You can disagree with him, and I have, but the bottom line is ... he did an extraordinary job, and he should be given that recognition by those that are running for the presidency.”




https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-obama-2020_n_5d4326a6e4b0ca604e2edddd

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=224386

Who you gonna trust?
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MustLoveBeagles

(11,614 posts)
15. That was my biggest disappointment with the last debate
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:17 PM
Aug 2019

Trump is the problem not Obama or Biden.

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Cha

(297,323 posts)
17. Absolutely, Beagles!
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:25 PM
Aug 2019
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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
18. Agree with Sam Stein on this case.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 07:46 PM
Aug 2019

Castro's point in the debate was provocative: what have we learned from past policy discussions as two members of the Obama candidate?

The Obama-era Secure Communities policy went too far in the number of deportations. Is anyone disputing that?

The ACA was historic, but I hope that universal coverage is still the goal. And there's a debate going on about how central is employer based insurance to both universal coverage and affordable coverage.

Obama is no longer president. Nothing wrong with advocating improvement in the policies or noting where in hindsight we might have done things differently.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,323 posts)
20. President Obama got what
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 08:05 PM
Aug 2019

was possible and it's a strong foundation.

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