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Undecided 36%
Elizabeth Warren22%
Joe Biden13%
Bernie Sanders8%
Kamala Harris8%

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:50 PM

 

Tuesday Debate Thread #2

Have at it everyone.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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madaboutharry Jul 30 #3
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:52 PM

1. I'm just reading DU..

 

Thanks everyone.. MustLoveBeagles!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:55 PM

6. It's been interesting so far

 



I wish Beto would jump into the fray more, but he's doing better tonight which is a big relief.
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primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:57 PM

14. I just read Beto was

 

doing Better!

Good, Mahalo!
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:52 PM

2. Thank you, Beagles.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:55 PM

8. Your welcome

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:53 PM

3. This debate is giving me a headache!

 

The candidates are getting scolded and spoken to by Tapper and Bash like they are in boot camp.

There has to be a better way of getting people to keep to the time limits.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Pete Buttigieg

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:54 PM

4. I agree; bad format.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:58 PM

21. I hate that.. and when does it Ever

 

change?.. I'd want to jump through the screen if I were watching
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Joe Biden

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:02 PM

35. The moderators are breaking the rules they stated themselves.

 

They keep cutting off all the candidates besides Warren and Sanders, to whom they keep returning and allowing to go on. This is not what democracy looks like. Every candidate on that stage, no matter what they are polling, deserves equal time and equal respect.
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Response to frazzled (Reply #35)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:17 PM

75. Warren gets interrupted every time.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to blm (Reply #75)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

92. She has the second highest time count

 

Next to Bernie, who has 3 1/2 times the amount of speaking that the least candidate (Hickenlooper) has gotten. Itís very lopsided.




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Response to frazzled (Reply #92)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:24 PM

100. Because the moderators were gunning for her, and then interrupting

 

and showing disrespect. Been noted on earlier debate thread
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Response to frazzled (Reply #92)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM

168. I'm no math genius

 

but I believe Mayor Pete's 5:60 would be an even 6 minutes!?!
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Pete Buttigieg

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Response to True Dough (Reply #168)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:21 AM

197. lol, that reminds me of Pete's 'I may not be a master fisherman, but I know bait when I see it' line

 

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Pete Buttigieg

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Response to Celerity (Reply #197)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:43 AM

198. Oh yeah, that was a superb line!

 

I guess I was subconsciously drawing on it. Always inspired by Pete!

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Pete Buttigieg

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:08 PM

47. The Mods are HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 



Rude, even worse than MF45, IMO.
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Kamala Harris

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:10 PM

52. Whackamole...

 

They go over time and a big gavel comes down and bops them on the head. I'm having trouble watching a bunch of Democrats fight amongst themselves on prime time.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:54 PM

5. These mandatory 15-second responses are a joke

 

This is debate about the future of our country, it's not a game show.
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Kamala Harris

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:55 PM

7. YES, LOUSY.

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:57 PM

11. But that's the only thing they know how to do - "infotainment"

 

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Undecided

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:57 PM

12. This just as bad as the stupid hand raising in the first debate

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

179. Could the party say "no" to a given format?

 

Certainly some of these problems are foreseeable.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:56 PM

9. Warren is being disingenuous by conflating asylum seeking with non asylum illegal entry

 

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Pete Buttigieg

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Response to Celerity (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM

167. I noticed that.

 

It was a bit annoying, and otherwise she has done really well.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:56 PM

10. The questions seem to be crafted to give

 

the Republicans canned talking points, they are ALL gotcha questions. Fer cryin' out loud CNN.
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Response to Bettie (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:58 PM

17. Every question is a republican talking point.

 

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Kamala Harris

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:09 PM

50. Exactly! EOM

 

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Kamala Harris

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Response to Bettie (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:58 PM

18. Yeah

 

I'm not too impressed by that.
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Beto O'Rourke

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Response to Bettie (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:58 PM

20. I agree...

 

You frame the health care debate with a stupid question about raising taxes on the middle class and the immigration debate by completely focusing on decriminalization.
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Response to Bettie (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:00 PM

25. Exactly, it never changes. from what

 

I read about anyway.
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Joe Biden

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:57 PM

13. I turned it off

 

they're not allowed enough time to finish what they're saying.

I get the time limits but they need more than 30 seconds or whatever it is.

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Kamala Harris

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Response to nini (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:59 PM

22. Yes

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to nini (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:01 PM

29. Turning it off now.

 

just too many right wing talking points phrased as questions. Makes me feel ill.
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Response to Bettie (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:06 PM

40. This (through no fault of anyone on stage) is doing overall damage to our Party IMHO

 

because of the RW question-framing.
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Pete Buttigieg

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Response to Celerity (Reply #40)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:08 PM

49. For format reasons, imo;

 

questions are pretty universal.
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Undecided

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Response to elleng (Reply #49)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM

67. Fair point

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Pete Buttigieg

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:57 PM

15. wow, I just agreed with Williamson

 

never saw that coming.

re: causes of some sicknesses... chemicals. etc.

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Undecided

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:59 PM

24. They each have good things to say.

 

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Undecided

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:00 PM

26. She said that last time. Valid but it'll never get traction.

 

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Joe Biden

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Response to nolabear (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:01 PM

31. Not as long as there's a fast-food industry lobby

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:07 PM

46. I liked that response

 

and I like what she's saying about campaign funding.

She may be "out there" but she is an intelligent woman and she's able to say things that need to be said because she has no delusions about where her campaign is going.
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Response to dflprincess (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:09 PM

51. Yes.

 

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Undecided

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:31 PM

113. If I didn't know she was a kook, I could be impressed. (n/t)

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #113)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:41 PM

140. Actually I am impressed

 

not enough to support her of course, but still enough to hope the other candidates will think about what she said and remember the reactions she got from the crowd.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:58 PM

16. I'm sorry but this format just sucks

 

Debates among this many candidates provide little insight or valuable discussion. I don't think it shows the candidates at their best, either. I would propose interviews by moderators like Cooper with perhaps four canddiates and no audience. Also no Williamson, Delaney, etc.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:00 PM

27. SOME other way.

 

Can't show ANYONE at their best.
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Response to elleng (Reply #27)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:02 PM

33. Agree, ANY other way would beat this

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:58 PM

19. How does a Donald trump even get within cheating distance.

 

-Pete Buttigieg
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:59 PM

23. Hickenlooper's out.

 

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Response to nolabear (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM

64. He and Ryan have been very very poor both debates. Beto too (gonna catch heat on that one lol)

 

as well. He is not good in this format. Bullock and Pete have been great. Warren looks radical far more this debate. Not a good look.

Bernie is Bernie. Love him or hate him he is the same every time.

Klobuchar seems anxious and off her game. Williamson of all people actually has been good. Delaney is hurting all by repeating Rethug talking points.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #64)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:17 PM

74. I'm surprised Warren isn't doing better. Klobuchar has had the least speaking time.

 

CNN is keeping a running tab on time. Any needs to stop being so polite. Sheís getting nothing.
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Response to nolabear (Reply #74)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:20 PM

89. Warren just SLAMMED Delaney, lololol

 

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Response to Celerity (Reply #89)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:21 PM

91. That was golden! 😄

 

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Response to nolabear (Reply #91)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

97. +1

 

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Response to Celerity (Reply #64)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:50 PM

160. Beto is much better than last time, and I think Warren is doing okay...

 

...but I agree with all your other assessments.
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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #160)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM

164. Beto was doing better the 2nd half, but then lost the plot on reparations

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:00 PM

28. Amy is very impressive with her passion and knowledge

 

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Kamala Harris

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:02 PM

36. She is.

 

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:05 PM

39. Yes she is

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:01 PM

30. Klobachar called out Turtle!

 

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #30)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:02 PM

34. Yes!

 

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Kamala Harris

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:02 PM

32. Bullock's out.

 

Dark money and the Koch brothers will get him nothing.
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Response to nolabear (Reply #32)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

94. Not at all, dark money is a HUGE reason we are all in this mess

 

It has shaped the legislative agenda for ages in a horrid way.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:03 PM

37. Based on reponses, it seems lke some of the candidates have never read the 2016 Democratic platform.

 

Securing Universal Health Care

Democrats believe that health care is a right, not a privilege
, and our health care system should put people before profits. Thanks to the hard work of President Obama and Democrats in Congress, we took a critically important step toward the goal of universal health care by passing the Affordable Care Act, which has covered 20 million more Americans and ensured millions more will never be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition


The right to healthcare has been a core Democratic Party value since the 1990's.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:07 PM

43. smh..

 

Mahalo, lapucelle
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Response to Cha (Reply #43)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:13 PM

58. Why are some of the candidates talking about a "healthcare as a right" as if it' s a new concept?

 

Securing Universal Health Care
Democrats believe that health care is a right, not a privilege, and our health care system should put people before profits. Thanks to the hard work of President Obama and Democrats in Congress, we took a critically important step toward the goal of universal health care by passing the Affordable Care Act, which has covered 20 million more Americans and ensured millions more will never be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Democrats will never falter in our generations-long fight to guarantee health care as a fundamental right for every American. As part of that guarantee, Americans should be able to access public coverage through a public option, and those over 55 should be able to opt in to Medicare. Democrats will empower the states, which are the true laboratories of democracy, to use innovation waivers under the ACA to develop unique locally tailored approaches to health coverage. This will include removing barriers to states which seek to experiment with plans to ensure universal health care to every person in their state. By contrast, Donald Trump wants to repeal the ACA, leaving tens of millions of Americans without coverage.



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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:04 PM

38. Per CNN Klobuchar has had the least speaking time.

 

She needs to shout those men down.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:06 PM

41. Williamson yadayadayada

 

Iím glad sheís a Democrat but what a waste of space.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #41)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:07 PM

45. she, of course, doesn't stand a chance...

 

and I don't know why she is even there.

But, I agree with her views.
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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:11 PM

53. A rightwing radio talker saw the debate entry criteria and did

 

a campaign to help her meet it. With the polling standard raised for the next debate, she likely won't make any more.
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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:14 PM

63. I like her but her anti-vaccine views are a dealbreaker for me

 

I can't go there with her.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:06 PM

42. Yadda, yadda, yadda

 

Is that some kind of mantra?
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:07 PM

44. yada yada yada-who is this woman? HOW does she have the backing to make the debate?

 

she is strange
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Response to demtenjeep (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM

66. A rightwing campaign helped get her on.

 

They can't influence democratic polls, so tonight is likely her last debate.

She is a true democrat and has a wonderful heart (ran a campaign to feed homeless people each day, even cooking meals in that effort), but she doesn't have the grounding of someone who has run a political campaign, like everyone else on stage with her.
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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:19 PM

86. She's a little late for the Steinfeld audition

 





She's okay, well mostly. I just don't think she's presidential.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:08 PM

48. Bernie said there would be a pharma commercial during the debate

 

waiting for it so I can laugh.
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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:11 PM

54. Watching Monsanto round up helpline.

 

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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:12 PM

55. They sure are giving BS a LOT of time

 

and he's getting on my last nerve.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:12 PM

56. Hickenlooper runs away from the question

 

And should keep running straight out of the primary.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #56)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:24 PM

101. Hickenlooper, a victim of his name.

 

He could be the sharpest person on the planet. This country will not elect President Hickenlooper.

Although to be honest, I had to eat a jar of horseraddish because Ah nold got himself elected governator of California.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:13 PM

57. Tapper sucks

 

He's asking questions that encourage the candidates to attack each other.
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Response to susanr516 (Reply #57)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:58 PM

173. Zactly.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:13 PM

59. FUCK YOU CNN

 

Middle class tax raises is how they frame health care... decriminalization is the only way they address immigration... now a fucking question about SOCIALISM?!? Go fuck yourself... i think these candidates are doing great and this is all a fucking setup.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:14 PM

60. I Never

 

turned it on. Reading up thread comments a nap was a better idea.
Besides, it will all get repeated and analyzed all week. Wake me when the less than 1%'ers have dropped out or gone broke.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:14 PM

61. Bernie said since health care is a right, everyone, including anyone who comes in even without

 

legally immigrating, being a refuge, or seeking asylum, will be covered. No other country does this.He says we have enough money to do this.

Really? I get covering those going through legal immigration, DACA, those we are going to document, but the idea that we can cover anyone who comes here is not reasonable.

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #61)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:41 PM

141. so you're saying

 

for example, undocumented immigrants with a sick baby - that baby should not receive medical treatment?
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Response to Skittles (Reply #141)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:49 AM

192. Of course the baby should. But free healthcare for all is ridiculous. In every other single payer

 

country, people without papers who have not been given any status, as refuges, or immigrants, do not get full healthcare. Emergency hospitals and urgent care, but not complete coverage.

Do you think in France or Germany or Ireland or England that people without papers are given full
benefits?


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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #192)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:07 AM

196. so you think people who are ill should not receive medical attention?

 

or is there an age limit?
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Response to Skittles (Reply #196)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:13 PM

199. I think no country that has universal coverage offers that coverage regardless of immigration

 

status. Witness France, where West Africans who have not been granted papers, are protesting their being excluded from all benefits and protections.

Now, they do have a case to make for being in France and wanting legal immigration status.

In the US, with a more sane policy, we should be taking on war refuges as we had promised, asylum seekers, and giving amnesty to millions who have lived and worked here for years, while granting immediate citizenship to DACAs. All of these new immigrants, in process folks, and new citizens must have full health coverage.

But if we try to extend full health benefits to those who do not qualify under a fair and comprehensive immigration policy, we will stretch health dollars to breaking, resulting in
poorer quality for all, and the need to privatize. We will also incur a far right wing backlash such as Europe is undergoing.

Yes, if anyone is sick and on our soil, he or she should be treated. Yes, we need donít ask donít tell
Vaccination programs, screening and treatment for infectious diseases, care during emergencies.

Every country where universal works has eligibility criteria that must be met for one to be put permanently on health care benefits.

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #199)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:22 PM

200. Yes, if anyone is sick and on our soil, he or she should be treated

 

that's all you needed to say
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #61)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:59 PM

176. Communicable diseases do not discriminate

 

based on immigration status. Accidents happen to citizens, non-citizens, and newly arrived immigrants alike. People need cancer screening and other preventative care. If health care is a human right, we must provide health care to everyone in the country. It would be dangerous to do otherwise.
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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #176)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:53 AM

193. I am not talking about immigrants or about refusing care for emergencies. Any single payer

 

system would be utterly jammed and bankrupt if the full panoply of services were extended to all
people.

And yes public health centers should screen for communicable, infectious diseases.

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #61)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:07 PM

191. They go to the ER now.

 

It would be better to have them in the pool.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:14 PM

62. Bernie & Hick have a moment...throwing arms in air...lol.

 

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #62)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM

69. Reminded me of Arlo Guthrie

 

and the shrink at the draft board in "Alice's Restaurant"!
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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM

70. i'm afraid that's going to turn into a meme real quick

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM

65. Tim Ryan aka the GOP talking point machine

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #65)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM

68. Its like he wrote all the questions

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #65)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

78. That's a perfect description!

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:16 PM

71. Do Republican candidates ever get asked if the party is moving too far to the right?

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #71)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:17 PM

73. Nope 👎

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:16 PM

72. Just started watching....

 

Watching Sanders looking angry and waving hands....Hickenlooper made him looking bad....

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #72)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

79. He even made me check

 

to see if I was standing on his lawn.
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Response to Pachamama (Reply #72)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

81. He's looking more like a kabuki warrior all the time.

 

Does nothing for me.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:17 PM

76. Moderating is pretty bad... but ALL the candidates are lightyears ahead of the alternative

 

Props to Mayor Pete for staying on point and sharp delivery.
Props to Tim Ryan and Beto O'Rourke for a good diversity of ideas mixed with pretty good delivery.
Props to Warren and Sanders for sticking with their guns in the face of general disagreement on the fine points.

They are all amazing candidates, those not mentioned are impressive too. But the ones I mentioned above are the stand outs to this undecided for this debate.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:17 PM

77. Why the hell is Bullock getting so much air time?

 

It seems like they go to him for a response for every question they ask.
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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #77)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

177. That's a puzzle to me too.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

80. Warren goes boom

 

Lol
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #80)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

83. REALLY a great point!

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #80)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:19 PM

85. I think everyone in my apartment building heard me yell

 

"I love you Elizabeth!"

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

82. Warren for the Win!!!!

 

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #82)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:19 PM

87. She's on fire

 

and as I predicted, so far, nobody's challenged her directly. They'll challenge Bernie on her issues, which is safer.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:19 PM

84. Ahahahaaaaaaa

 

Get the hook on Delaney.
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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #84)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:20 PM

90. Definitely....

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:20 PM

88. GO Liz!

 

She's on fire!
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

93. Glad to see Amy avoid Tapper's sloppy trap.

 

Geez that was blatant!
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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

96. Good for Amy

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

95. I love the play by play on DU!

 

Thanks!!!
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Response to backtoblue (Reply #95)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:25 PM

103. Me too, from the sound of it I'm glad I'm watching "Elizabeth", a good period movie..n/t

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:23 PM

98. Seems that the moderates are trying to go after Warren/Sanders

 

as if they are the same candidate....and not 2 separate candidates.
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #98)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:27 PM

104. They are trying to induce a fight between the two.

 

More drama.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:24 PM

99. no no no Beto just said he agreed with trump

 

no no no
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:25 PM

102. I have been watching for 15 mins and its so badly moderated & would say the women

 

...win the Night so far....

...and a few people like Delaney need to quit the campaign for President....



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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:27 PM

105. I'll be glad when the 1-2 percenters are gone, then there will be more time for deeper responses

 

This 30 second thing sucks, but it is a problem of the party's own doing.
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Response to Tarc (Reply #105)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:28 PM

106. it's riduculous. it's not really a debate. it's speed dating.

 

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #106)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:29 PM

107. Speed De-bating.....

 

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #107)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:32 PM

115. Good one!

 

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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:51 PM

162. ha ha that is perfect.

 

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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:29 PM

108. Bernie's turning red and yelling....

 

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #108)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:31 PM

112. How can you tell?

 

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #108)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:37 PM

123. That's how many of us feel about the importance of these issues.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:29 PM

109. "Democrats are afraid of big ideas".

 

smh
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #109)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:30 PM

111. Who said that?

 



I missed it....Bernie was yelling and it rattled me...
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Response to Pachamama (Reply #111)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:32 PM

114. Bernie did

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:30 PM

110. Ok -- Ryan got a dig in on Sanders.

 

He said, "You don't have to yell".
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:32 PM

116. Bullock doesn't always have a plan for, you know, talking

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #116)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:37 PM

125. "Dark psychic force..."

 

It's almost like a seance.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:34 PM

118. Klobuchar has been forgotten.

 

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Response to phylny (Reply #118)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:35 PM

120. Talking now....

 

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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:35 PM

121. She just got a softball question.

 

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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:34 PM

119. I look forward to this being Bullock's first and last debate.

 

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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

131. Yeah. I liked him in the first 2 minutes, but he seems more

 

and more obnoxious as the debate goes on.
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #131)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:41 PM

138. Same here

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #138)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:49 PM

156. Debate thread 3..?????

 

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #119)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:40 PM

134. I agree and that williamson woman too

 

she is awful
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Response to demtenjeep (Reply #134)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:02 PM

181. Well she does have a plan that even E Warren somehow seems to have missed...

 

... a plan to "combat the dark psychic forces".

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Response to demtenjeep (Reply #134)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

188. Loved her answer on the college question.

 

Refinancing college debt would help the economy.

Reminding us of the core Democratic philosophy of putting people first.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:35 PM

122. Like me some Mayor Pete

 

but there are some good things being said between all the mess
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:37 PM

124. Big hand for Williamson

 

She's doing better than expected tonight.
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Response to True Dough (Reply #124)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

128. She's still said her goofy stuff.

 

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #128)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:41 PM

137. But it was 80% less goofy!

 

If only she can keep it up!
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Response to True Dough (Reply #137)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:41 PM

142. Goofy lite, I guess!

 

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #128)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:44 PM

147. Only goofy to those who aren't in tune with the universe.

 

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #147)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:45 PM

150. Damn, you're right, mine is on AM!

 

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Response to True Dough (Reply #124)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

130. Well earned.

 

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Response to True Dough (Reply #124)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:39 PM

132. She deserved it then.

 

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Response to True Dough (Reply #124)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:39 PM

133. All three of the women - and Mayor Pete are the ones impressing me tonight....

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

126. I can't believe people in Flint are still using bottled water

 

WTH?
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

127. Wow @ Marianne Williamson.

 

"If you think any of this wonkiness" is going to address the evil that trump has dredged up... (paraphrasing).
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

129. Marianne Williamson!!!

 

She doesn't have a chance....but wow, she speaks the truth...

Again....the women tonight are the most impressive....
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Response to Pachamama (Reply #129)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:40 PM

135. agree, she should have some role in the up coming administration

 

I'm not sure what though
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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #135)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:42 PM

143. She mentioned a department of Children something on an interview

 

I can't remember the name but I thought it was a really good idea.
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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #135)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:42 PM

144. Chaplain? n/t

 

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #135)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:43 PM

146. Science advisor maybe?

 

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #129)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:41 PM

139. That was a good response

 

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #129)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

180. ++

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:41 PM

136. DOMESTIC TERRORISM - Warren said it!!!!

 


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Response to Pachamama (Reply #136)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:43 PM

145. Yes, domestic terrorism

 

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #136)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:44 PM

149. bought damn time

 

we have only been saying it for years
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:44 PM

148. Pete handled that tough question like a pro. Nt

 

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #148)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:50 PM

159. I am almost ready to say Biden/Pete

 

Warren for Secretary of anythng she wants!
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:45 PM

151. O'Rouke's hail mary pass. nt

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:46 PM

152. Williamson is going for the reparations issue

 

Pete must be sweating like crazy right now.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:46 PM

153. Marianne is speaking truth right now. nt

 

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #153)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:48 PM

154. Yes

 

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #153)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:48 PM

155. Yes, she is

 

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #153)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:49 PM

157. Reparations ARE warranted, but VERY unpopular with the public.

 

Sad to say it, but itís a bad issue for us to run on.
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #157)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM

166. Money won't fix the inherently racist and biased system

 

It also won't address the side effects that this same racist and biased system is also hurting other groups.

It will take serious investment into fixing the system - a job which will take both money and time - to address and truly fix things.

L-
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #153)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:49 PM

158. The crowd loves it. n/t

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:50 PM

161. can we get another thread for the last part

 

its getting kind of long
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Response to demtenjeep (Reply #161)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM

165. Go ahead and start one!

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:51 PM

163. Even if you have insurance and get sick, you will be bankrupt. Why is any democrat fighting to keep

 

That system.
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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #163)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:53 PM

169. because it's complicated.

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #163)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:59 PM

175. It is not true that even with insurance, you will be bankrupt. Some plans cover 100 percent with

 

minimal co-pays, extremely low drug costs, and offer top clinics and hospitals and doctors. Medicaid offers excellent coverage and even pays for in-home care. Some retirees as part of their
retirement benefits have Medicare plus a plan for low or no cost.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #175)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

187. I have very good healthcare. This is an example of what happens.

 

My husband had a massive stroke right after dump was installed. Some of the treatment, meds and doctors were out of network cost. Which means insurance doesnít cover it. We ended up with a 200,000 bill when we left the hospital.
Most insurance is good if youíre not sick, but if something tragic happens or you get cancer youíre screwed. Ask most people with diabetes how much their insulin costs. Read about how many of them have passed because they canít afford it. Check out go fund me, thousands of people begging for money to help them buy Medicine to stay alive. Profiting off healthcare is immoral and pathetic.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #187)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:20 AM

194. Out of network surprise bills are the subject of legislation now. It is terrible that happened to

 

your husband. This has got to change and can through legislation. In the case of a widely known hospital in CA, these bills have been fought and people are winning.

ACA can be made affordable and offers complete coverage. Medicare with a supplemental, good plan can give 100 percent coverage.

Medicaid does cover insulin, specialists even, good hospitals, and doctors, at home care too.

Many union plans are excellent.

People with good plans want to keep them and should be able to.

Every one else should be covered too and not with lousy plans.

I am simply not for one way to get to universal coverage.

It simply is not true that most good insurance plans only hold up if you donít get sick. Medicare plus a supplemental gives 100 percent coverage. Medicaid 100 percent. Yes, most will not pay for
experimental treatments. But neither do single payer systems. They do decide based on stats what
they will cover and what they wonít.

Anecdotal? Ok. I am reimbursed through my pension the cost of Medicare. My retirement benefits
gives me a PPO plan and pays the premium. I am covered 100 percent and pay 10 dollar deductibles. My drugs cost between a few dollars and tops, 15 dollars. My mother paid 261 a month for an excellent Kaiser plan, much like mine. Hers also a retirement deal. A few costs out of pocket, not much, for one of her major illnesses.

And I could go on.



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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #194)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:27 AM

195. For many of us, my story is the reality.This is why the profit must be removed. However that happens

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #163)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

178. Because, if you're lucky, like my son is right now, his insurance has no deductibles, and no

 

all the premiums are paid by his employer. Before you say anything, I admit his position is one in a million. But the idea is the same, lots of people who have insurance through their employer are pretty happy with it and are AFRAID of change. Afraid what you're offering won't be as good.
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Response to napi21 (Reply #178)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

190. A system that bankrupts other people that don't happen to be you

 

Is immoral IMO
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:54 PM

170. Tim Ryan thinks he can fix it.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:55 PM

171. Warren, Williamson, and Mayor Pete are most impressive so far.

 

Not the best day IMO for Sanders/ORourke. Williamson is more clear tonight than Kloubuchar.

Ryan, Delaney, and Hickenlooper need their own party.

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #171)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:57 PM

172. Agree on all counts....

 

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #171)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:58 PM

174. I'm pretty much done with Delaney

 

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Response to susanr516 (Reply #174)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:03 PM

182. Delaney Tried To Mansplain Economic Policy to Liz

 

He died on that hill.
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Response to susanr516 (Reply #174)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:05 PM

183. Agreed

 

It's interesting to see Bullock. Haven't heard him before. Seems sensible - not quite at a level with Warren and Inslee, IMO, my personal top two.
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Response to susanr516 (Reply #174)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

185. Same here.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

184. Why oh why are they giving Delaney so much time?

 

Ridiculous.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

186. question: bernie & trump said the same thing

 

about not being world police. how can we tell the difference between the two of you?


HAHAHAHA!!!!

what a STUPID fucking question!
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Response to orleans (Reply #186)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

189. Yep.

 

Sanders had a nice one liner.
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