Democratic Primaries

Yosemito

(648 posts) Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:52 PM Mar 2019

Joe Biden is a hard-core liberal, and a bit more populist than Bernie

According to political scientists of ontheissues.org, a website that analyzes politicians' ideologies based on their past votes, Joe Biden is a hard-core liberal.
Below are the graphs for both Bernie Sanders (also classified as a hard-core liberal) and Biden:

Bernie is a bit more liberatian (opposite of populist) than Biden.
http://www.ontheissues.org/joe_biden.htm

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Joe Biden is a hard-core liberal, and a bit more populist than Bernie (Original Post) Yosemito Mar 2019 OP

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #1

Thank the political scientists Yosemito Mar 2019 #2

I'd rather 'thank' you, for throwing it around. elleng Mar 2019 #5

You caught me quoting political scientists Yosemito Mar 2019 #6

Not sure what that means. Eko Mar 2019 #8

I guess according to some. Others Cha Mar 2019 #21

Oh yeah, Eko Mar 2019 #22

.. Cha Mar 2019 #23

.. Cha Mar 2019 #18

Trump would call Bernie Sanders "socialist" or "communist" Doodley Mar 2019 #3

Just like they did with President Obama. How did that work out for them? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #4

Bernie is NOT Obama! revmclaren Mar 2019 #7

LOL.. "just a friendly reminder" Cha Mar 2019 #19

President Obama wasn't a self described "Democratic Socialist." CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #10

Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #12

Seriously... Bernie is NOT Obama! revmclaren Mar 2019 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Huffleprecious Mar 2019 #28

The charts are baloney. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #9

Not much distance between the two of them, and Biden is a year younger! George II Mar 2019 #11

And, exponentially Cha Mar 2019 #24

Riiiight!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #13

bwahahahahahahaha shanny Mar 2019 #15

I really like Joe Gothmog Mar 2019 #16

I doubt that Joe Biden would describe himself Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #17

I know I'd rather have Joe Biden Cha Mar 2019 #20

I would say he is more a Progressive, Socialist, Democrat. pwb Mar 2019 #25

The only way we lose in 2020 watoos Mar 2019 #26

Bernie needs to be vetted like everyone else. blue cat Mar 2019 #30

I like Bernie and I like Joe, watoos Mar 2019 #32

Bottom Line. democratisphere Mar 2019 #27

So Biden is against pot legalization? Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #35

Oddly enough every major candidate Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #38

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Not what I said. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #40

Maybe not the most important issue BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #41

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Hard core liberals aren't cozy with the banking industry mucifer Mar 2019 #31

Another purity test? watoos Mar 2019 #33

This is a discussion board where we discuss I answered why I don't think Biden is more of mucifer Mar 2019 #34

Student Loans zipplewrath Mar 2019 #36

Biden and the bankruptcy bill require both explanation and restitution. chimpymustgo Mar 2019 #37

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Yosemito

(648 posts)

2. Thank the political scientists

Reply to Post removed (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:56 PM

Mar 2019

From ontheissues.org.
Go to "Contact us".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

elleng

(134,533 posts)

5. I'd rather 'thank' you, for throwing it around.

Reply to Yosemito (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:14 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Yosemito

(648 posts)

6. You caught me quoting political scientists

Reply to elleng (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

Mar 2019

I'll live in shame forever. What do they know about politics?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Eko

(8,088 posts)

8. Not sure what that means.

Reply to Post removed (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:24 PM

Mar 2019

Are people not allowed to use labels now?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(302,367 posts)

21. I guess according to some. Others

Reply to Eko (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:16 AM

Mar 2019

have no problem tossing vacant, buzzword "labels" around.. like "establishment".

These descriptions seem much more benign and Not insulting, imo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Eko

(8,088 posts)

22. Oh yeah,

Reply to Cha (Reply #21)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:22 AM

Mar 2019

for some people labels are only bad when they are against them. Interesting inst it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(302,367 posts)

23. ..

Reply to Eko (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:30 AM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(302,367 posts)

18. ..

Reply to Post removed (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:15 AM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Doodley

(9,786 posts)

3. Trump would call Bernie Sanders "socialist" or "communist"

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:04 PM

Mar 2019

a thousand times until election day. IMO, it would not go well for us. Joe Biden misses that bullet, but you'd get a similar vision.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,560 posts)

4. Just like they did with President Obama. How did that work out for them?

Reply to Doodley (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:06 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)

7. Bernie is NOT Obama!

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:20 PM

Mar 2019

Just a friendly reminder.

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(302,367 posts)

19. LOL.. "just a friendly reminder"

Reply to revmclaren (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:17 AM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

CrossingTheRubicon

(731 posts)

10. President Obama wasn't a self described "Democratic Socialist."

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:33 PM

Mar 2019

Nice try anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,469 posts)

12. Seriously!!

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:39 PM

Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)

14. Seriously... Bernie is NOT Obama!

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:43 PM

Mar 2019

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Response to Doodley (Reply #3)

Huffleprecious This message was self-deleted by its author.

CrossingTheRubicon

(731 posts)

9. The charts are baloney.

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:32 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

11. Not much distance between the two of them, and Biden is a year younger!

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:34 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(302,367 posts)

24. And, exponentially

Reply to George II (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:32 AM

Mar 2019

more Experienced!

Much nicer avatar..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,469 posts)

13. Riiiight!!!

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:41 PM

Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

shanny

(6,709 posts)

15. bwahahahahahahaha

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 12:39 AM

Mar 2019

gasp cough cough choke

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(151,425 posts)

16. I really like Joe

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:29 AM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Eric J in MN

(35,620 posts)

17. I doubt that Joe Biden would describe himself

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:37 AM

Mar 2019

....as “more populist than Bernie Sanders.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(302,367 posts)

20. I know I'd rather have Joe Biden

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:18 AM

Mar 2019

as my President than BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

pwb

(12,022 posts)

25. I would say he is more a Progressive, Socialist, Democrat.

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:26 AM

Mar 2019

Liberal is more of a Republican smear word used to describe us. Think lard ass Limbaugh. Progressive is the more acceptable term for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

watoos

(7,142 posts)

26. The only way we lose in 2020

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:34 AM

Mar 2019

is if we fight among ourselves. Last I checked Bernie isn't a Republican. Last I checked Bernie still caucuses with the Democrats. Who the heck is ontheissues.org?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

blue cat

(2,437 posts)

30. Bernie needs to be vetted like everyone else.

Reply to watoos (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:00 AM

Mar 2019

The unity ostrich movement will only get us a nominee that causes more problems when it’s too late to do anything about, like trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

watoos

(7,142 posts)

32. I like Bernie and I like Joe,

Reply to blue cat (Reply #30)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:25 AM

Mar 2019

There, I vetted them. All of our candidates are way better than Trump. I'm not worried about red baiting, equating Socialism with communism, it has never worked in the past. If that's what Republicans are going to run on, let them. By the way, want to make a wager that if Castro is our candidate, Republicans will call him a Socialist/commie?

The only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves, and the right wing corporate controlled M$M is already pushing that narrative.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)

27. Bottom Line.

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:38 AM

Mar 2019

Joe Biden is the most electable as shown in the current legitimate early polling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Voltaire2

(14,346 posts)

29. So Biden is against pot legalization?

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:00 AM

Mar 2019

I guess he’ll corner the drug warrior vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Voltaire2

(14,346 posts)

38. Oddly enough every major candidate

Reply to Name removed (Reply #35)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:44 AM

Mar 2019

has put it up front on their agendas. Like I said, Biden will cornet the 20% of democratic voters who still want to lock people up for pot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Voltaire2

(14,346 posts)

40. Not what I said.

Reply to Name removed (Reply #39)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:59 PM

Mar 2019

I said he will corner the drug warriors. I did not say nobody else will vote for him.

But for me anyway this is a disqualify position

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

BannonsLiver

(17,399 posts)

41. Maybe not the most important issue

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Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:10 PM

Mar 2019

But it’s bigger than the afterthought you’re trying to characterize it as. It does matter a lot to some people, including liberals.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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mucifer

(24,467 posts)

31. Hard core liberals aren't cozy with the banking industry

Reply to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:16 AM

Mar 2019

With Sen. Joe Biden joining the Democratic ticket, there's renewed scrutiny of Biden's connections to the credit card industry. Biden has been particularly cozy with MBNA, a financial services company from Delaware, and now a subsidiary of Bank of America.

Over the past 20 years, MBNA has been Biden's single largest contributor. And as the New York Times and Wall Street Journal note, Biden's son Hunter was hired out of law school by MBNA and later worked as a lobbyist for the company.

The Times also details just how helpful Biden has been to MBNA and the credit card industry. The senator was a key supporter of an industry-favorite bill -- the "Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005" -- that actually made it harder for consumers to get protection under bankruptcy.

https://www.propublica.org/article/bidens-cozy-relations-with-bank-industry-825

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

watoos

(7,142 posts)

33. Another purity test?

Reply to mucifer (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:27 AM

Mar 2019

Here's a news flash, none of our candidates are perfect, but all of them are way better than Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

mucifer

(24,467 posts)

34. This is a discussion board where we discuss I answered why I don't think Biden is more of

Reply to watoos (Reply #33)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:33 AM

Mar 2019

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a populist than Bernie and I gave a link to support that.

I never said I wouldn't support Biden if he becomes the dem candidate. I would.

I don't understand why you don't want me to discuss my thoughts on this thread.

This is why I chose Obama over Biden in 2008. Again I would have voted for Biden then if he was the dem choice in the general election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

zipplewrath

(16,659 posts)

36. Student Loans

Reply to mucifer (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:24 AM

Mar 2019

As I recall, that act is also the one that made it impossible to discharge student loan debt through the bankruptcy process. That could be a problem for him in the current political environment, especially with mennials and others burdened with student loans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)

37. Biden and the bankruptcy bill require both explanation and restitution.

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #36)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:32 AM

Mar 2019

A lot of people have been hurt by it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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