Joe Biden is a hard-core liberal, and a bit more populist than Bernie

[Yosemito]

According to political scientists of ontheissues.org, a website that analyzes politicians' ideologies based on their past votes, Joe Biden is a hard-core liberal.
Below are the graphs for both Bernie Sanders (also classified as a hard-core liberal) and Biden:





Bernie is a bit more liberatian (opposite of populist) than Biden.
http://www.ontheissues.org/joe_biden.htm

[Yosemito]

2. Thank the political scientists

From ontheissues.org.
Go to "Contact us".

[elleng]

5. I'd rather 'thank' you, for throwing it around.

[Yosemito]

6. You caught me quoting political scientists

I'll live in shame forever. What do they know about politics?

[Eko]

8. Not sure what that means.

Are people not allowed to use labels now?

[Cha]

21. I guess according to some. Others

have no problem tossing vacant, buzzword "labels" around.. like "establishment".

These descriptions seem much more benign and Not insulting, imo.

[Eko]

22. Oh yeah,

for some people labels are only bad when they are against them. Interesting inst it?

[Cha]

23. ..

[Cha]

18. ..

[Doodley]

3. Trump would call Bernie Sanders "socialist" or "communist"

a thousand times until election day. IMO, it would not go well for us. Joe Biden misses that bullet, but you'd get a similar vision.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

4. Just like they did with President Obama. How did that work out for them?

[revmclaren]

7. Bernie is NOT Obama!

Just a friendly reminder.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[Cha]

19. LOL.. "just a friendly reminder"

[CrossingTheRubicon]

10. President Obama wasn't a self described "Democratic Socialist."

Nice try anyway.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. Seriously!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[revmclaren]

14. Seriously... Bernie is NOT Obama!

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[CrossingTheRubicon]

9. The charts are baloney.

[George II]

11. Not much distance between the two of them, and Biden is a year younger!

[Cha]

24. And, exponentially

more Experienced!

Much nicer avatar..

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. Riiiight!!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[shanny]

15. bwahahahahahahaha

gasp cough cough choke

[Gothmog]

16. I really like Joe

[Eric J in MN]

17. I doubt that Joe Biden would describe himself

....as “more populist than Bernie Sanders.”

[Cha]

20. I know I'd rather have Joe Biden

as my President than BS.

[pwb]

25. I would say he is more a Progressive, Socialist, Democrat.

Liberal is more of a Republican smear word used to describe us. Think lard ass Limbaugh. Progressive is the more acceptable term for me.

[watoos]

26. The only way we lose in 2020

is if we fight among ourselves. Last I checked Bernie isn't a Republican. Last I checked Bernie still caucuses with the Democrats. Who the heck is ontheissues.org?

[blue cat]

30. Bernie needs to be vetted like everyone else.

The unity ostrich movement will only get us a nominee that causes more problems when it’s too late to do anything about, like trump.

[watoos]

32. I like Bernie and I like Joe,

There, I vetted them. All of our candidates are way better than Trump. I'm not worried about red baiting, equating Socialism with communism, it has never worked in the past. If that's what Republicans are going to run on, let them. By the way, want to make a wager that if Castro is our candidate, Republicans will call him a Socialist/commie?

The only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves, and the right wing corporate controlled M$M is already pushing that narrative.

[democratisphere]

27. Bottom Line.

Joe Biden is the most electable as shown in the current legitimate early polling.

[Voltaire2]

29. So Biden is against pot legalization?

I guess he’ll corner the drug warrior vote.

[Voltaire2]

38. Oddly enough every major candidate

has put it up front on their agendas. Like I said, Biden will cornet the 20% of democratic voters who still want to lock people up for pot.

[Voltaire2]

40. Not what I said.

I said he will corner the drug warriors. I did not say nobody else will vote for him.

But for me anyway this is a disqualify position

[BannonsLiver]

41. Maybe not the most important issue

But it’s bigger than the afterthought you’re trying to characterize it as. It does matter a lot to some people, including liberals.

[mucifer]

31. Hard core liberals aren't cozy with the banking industry

With Sen. Joe Biden joining the Democratic ticket, there's renewed scrutiny of Biden's connections to the credit card industry. Biden has been particularly cozy with MBNA, a financial services company from Delaware, and now a subsidiary of Bank of America.

Over the past 20 years, MBNA has been Biden's single largest contributor. And as the New York Times and Wall Street Journal note, Biden's son Hunter was hired out of law school by MBNA and later worked as a lobbyist for the company.

The Times also details just how helpful Biden has been to MBNA and the credit card industry. The senator was a key supporter of an industry-favorite bill -- the "Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005" -- that actually made it harder for consumers to get protection under bankruptcy.

https://www.propublica.org/article/bidens-cozy-relations-with-bank-industry-825

[watoos]

33. Another purity test?

Here's a news flash, none of our candidates are perfect, but all of them are way better than Trump.

[mucifer]

34. This is a discussion board where we discuss I answered why I don't think Biden is more of

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a populist than Bernie and I gave a link to support that.

I never said I wouldn't support Biden if he becomes the dem candidate. I would.

I don't understand why you don't want me to discuss my thoughts on this thread.

This is why I chose Obama over Biden in 2008. Again I would have voted for Biden then if he was the dem choice in the general election.

[zipplewrath]

36. Student Loans

As I recall, that act is also the one that made it impossible to discharge student loan debt through the bankruptcy process. That could be a problem for him in the current political environment, especially with mennials and others burdened with student loans.

[chimpymustgo]

37. Biden and the bankruptcy bill require both explanation and restitution.

A lot of people have been hurt by it.