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Wed May 15, 2019, 07:53 AM

 

Bernie Sanders zeros in on Joe Biden as his favorite foil

WASHINGTON (AP) — Bernie Sanders is quick to slam Joe Biden’s past support of free trade deals and the Iraq War. He is warning him against a “middle ground” approach to addressing climate change. His campaign sends fundraising appeals with a simple, foreboding subject line: “Joe Biden.”

In his nearly three weeks as a presidential candidate, Biden has become Sanders’ favorite foil.

No one seeking the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination has been as aggressive as the Vermont senator in highlighting episodes from the former vice president’s past to sow skepticism in the party’s progressive base.

The strategy is reminiscent of Sanders’ approach to the 2016 Democratic primary, when he relentlessly slammed Hillary Clinton as an establishment pawn. And it’s a reminder that, even when Sanders lags in the polls, he is often most comfortable when he’s taking on top Democrats, hoping that such attacks will energize his most loyal supporters.

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Reply Bernie Sanders zeros in on Joe Biden as his favorite foil (Original post)
TexasTowelie May 2019 OP
Cha May 2019 #1
Peacetrain May 2019 #2
Cha May 2019 #8
sheshe2 May 2019 #29
rgbecker May 2019 #3
George II May 2019 #9
comradebillyboy May 2019 #10
George II May 2019 #15
PDittie May 2019 #4
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #19
ehrnst May 2019 #22
LibFarmer May 2019 #25
Nanjeanne May 2019 #5
DownriverDem May 2019 #7
Nanjeanne May 2019 #12
LibFarmer May 2019 #26
Blue_true May 2019 #30
DownriverDem May 2019 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #20
MineralMan May 2019 #11
Nanjeanne May 2019 #13
MineralMan May 2019 #14
ehrnst May 2019 #23
Blue_true May 2019 #31
Fresh_Start May 2019 #32
NastyRiffraff May 2019 #16
peggysue2 May 2019 #17
loyalsister May 2019 #18
Hortensis May 2019 #21
Fresh_Start May 2019 #33
treestar Jun 2019 #38
loyalsister Jun 2019 #40
Gothmog May 2019 #24
LibFarmer May 2019 #27
NYMinute May 2019 #28
emmaverybo May 2019 #34
Cha Jun 2019 #36
Cha Jun 2019 #35
TexasTowelie Jun 2019 #37
Cha Jun 2019 #39

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:07 AM

1. BackFiring!

 




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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:20 AM

2. Sometimes people get caught up in their own publicity..

 

No one is irreplaceable.. Elizabeth Warren has moved into that space occupied by Bernie Sanders in 2016 basically because she explains her stances and backs them up with policy..
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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #2)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:19 AM

8. He

 

never learns.
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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:33 PM

29. S.

 

I.
N.
K.
I.
N.
G.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:28 AM

3. Wish there were at least one quote from Bernie in the article.

 

Maybe then we could take it seriously.

This seems to be the entire complaint:

Bernie Sanders is quick to slam Joe Biden’s past support of free trade deals and the Iraq War. He is warning him against a “middle ground” approach to addressing climate change. His campaign sends fundraising appeals with a simple, foreboding subject line: “Joe Biden.”

What did the Foreboding "Joe Biden" fundraising appeal say?

Have you got anything at all?

If telling people about a candidate's voting record is slamming than what exactly is a campaign about?
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Response to rgbecker (Reply #3)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:22 AM

9. That "Joe Biden" email has been posted here before. I'm not going to go look for it but....

 

....the first paragraph talked about "establishment Democrats", "1%" (of which HE is now a part, and has been longer than he'll admit), and one or two of the other derogatory buzz words he's been using for years.

It used to be a campaign was "about" talking about one's accomplishments and define one's own position on issues and how to work on them, not bashing someone else's record.

When is Sanders going to ever get into HIS accomplishments? In almost five years of running for president I haven't seen him do that once.
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Response to George II (Reply #9)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:33 AM

10. He doesn't have any accomplishments does he?

 

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #10)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:59 AM

15. None that he ever talks about, except that he was at the March on Washington "with" MLK in 1963.

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:35 AM

4. Go get him, Bernie!

 

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Response to PDittie (Reply #4)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

19. Maybe Bernie should concentrate his efforts against Trump

 

instead of trying to kneecap an actual Democrat.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #19)

Wed May 15, 2019, 07:22 PM

22. +1000.(nt)

 

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Response to PDittie (Reply #4)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:09 PM

25. Yeah .. go get him and see how it plays out this time

 

People have seen this movie before.

This time, it is going to backfire badly.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:38 AM

5. They are one and two. Comparing their policies and votes is what all candidates

 

should be doing. There have been zero slams by Sanders against Biden. This is a primary and all candidates need to contrast themselves from each other. These kinds of articles are silly and click bait and do nothing to help people make intelligent decisions on who they will vote for. They are simply to create a fake story to get people riled up. It’s the reality tv state of our politics now. Gossip takes the place of actual policy discussion.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #5)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:02 AM

7. Good Luck

 

Folks have moved away from Bernie for a reason. Attacking Biden will not gain him any support.
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #7)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:45 AM

12. Thanks for wishing me good luck.

 

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #7)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:11 PM

26. He will actually lose some vacillating voters

 

They won't like this one bit -- not the second time around.
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #7)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:35 PM

30. My guess is Bernie's sensible supporters are moving over to Senator Warren as the best hope for

 

their cause. The more Bernie attacks, the more he solidifies Senator Warren's support.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:01 AM

6. Won't work

 

Folks are moving away from Bernie including young folks.
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #6)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

20. I supported Bernie in 2016 but I'm so over him now.

 

He isn't helping his campaign by trying to be a spoiler.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:39 AM

11. Yes, but How Many Post Office did Joe Biden Ever Name?

 

See?
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:45 AM

13. How many health clinics did Joe add to the ACA?

 

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:51 AM

14. He was Vice President at that time, right?

 

Not in the Senate.

See, I was making a joke in my post. You weren't. But Joe Biden wasn't in a position to add health clinics to the ACA at that time. Bernie was. Joe was in the House and Senate, though, for many years. I'm guessing he might have named a few post offices during that time, but I don't actually know.

So, I made a joke.
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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Wed May 15, 2019, 07:23 PM

23. As VP?

 

Please. Grasping at straws to make a point?

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:39 PM

31. Likely thousands. He was part of the Administration that implemented Pelosi and Reed's work. nt

 

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:43 PM

32. if the Obama administration hadn't forced the issue then there would be no

 

ACA for Sanders to add his two bits to....

PS: Biden was part of the Obama administration.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 10:49 AM

16. Of course he does

 

This is entirely predictable. He's running like it's 2016 and it's not working. The more behind he gets, the more shrill his attacks are going to be. Watch as the various candidates rise and fall; he will attack accordingly.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 11:25 AM

17. The Senator from Vermont is pining for . . .

 

Hillary Clinton to work this strategy on, a 2016 redux. Think he'll find a far less polite foil in Joe Biden.

But please, carry on with the futile digging. Btw check your calendar--we're heading towards 2020 where the landscape is vastly different.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

18. I wish they would both step aside

 

We've been tricked into confronting a false choice before.
We currently have candidates who have solutions that are not based on a standard exclusionary model that has been failing so many people for decades and also not pie in the sky.
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Response to loyalsister (Reply #18)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

21. Now, I see disinfo-ing our ideology for Republican as the big trick

 

that's been pulled on us. By false equivocation from both left and right, both lying to confuse and deceive voters by smearing us with conservative sins.

But any this case, both of these men stand on their own. Neither is an "exclusionary" binary model. All of America knows we have 20 other choices, a few genuinely viable at this point with a long race to go. We can expect support for Biden to drop somewhat, and likely into competitive range, as other candidates become better known and draw interest.
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Mon Jun 24, 2019, 06:07 AM

38. Warren can't win unless they step aside?

 

That's what you are telling me. Not very persuasive for Warren, I'd say.
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Response to treestar (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:52 AM

40. I'm not advocating for any candidate

 

And I think arguments between Biden and Sanders are an unnecessary waste of media energy when she has claimed a middle ground between the two of them.

I was hoping to see a productive primary and would also love to see a younger candidate emerge with a strong, well defined platform, but if I were going to vote today. It would be Warren.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 07:53 PM

24. This strategy will not work

 


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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:12 PM

27. Angry man saying get off my lawn nt

 

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Response to LibFarmer (Reply #27)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:16 PM

28. lol

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:46 PM

34. Not a good look. Used to like him. But the attacks from him and supporters, on Joe, and Hilary

 

are a decided turn-off. I feel a desperation coming off him. Some fine ideas. Needs to stay in his own lane and shine there.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #34)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 05:32 AM

36. I stopped respecting him

 

in 2011 when he said he thought it would be a good idea to primary President Obama.

Actually I never did like him.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 05:29 AM

35. How's that working out?

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #35)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 05:40 AM

37. It doesn't appear to be working at all.

 

I've already told my brother that I get the laptop during the debates this week. While I expect that the debate will be interesting among Biden and Bernie, I also expect someone else further down the pack to have a breakthrough moment and start climbing in the polls.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #37)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 06:10 AM

39. Glad you get

 

the laptop during the debates, TexasT!

Yeah, there will be all kinds of fireworks during debate week.. good luck to most of them.
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