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Related: About this forumBernie Sanders zeros in on Joe Biden as his favorite foil
WASHINGTON (AP) Bernie Sanders is quick to slam Joe Bidens past support of free trade deals and the Iraq War. He is warning him against a middle ground approach to addressing climate change. His campaign sends fundraising appeals with a simple, foreboding subject line: Joe Biden.
In his nearly three weeks as a presidential candidate, Biden has become Sanders favorite foil.
No one seeking the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination has been as aggressive as the Vermont senator in highlighting episodes from the former vice presidents past to sow skepticism in the partys progressive base.
The strategy is reminiscent of Sanders approach to the 2016 Democratic primary, when he relentlessly slammed Hillary Clinton as an establishment pawn. And its a reminder that, even when Sanders lags in the polls, he is often most comfortable when hes taking on top Democrats, hoping that such attacks will energize his most loyal supporters.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,723 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)No one is irreplaceable.. Elizabeth Warren has moved into that space occupied by Bernie Sanders in 2016 basically because she explains her stances and backs them up with policy..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
never learns.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rgbecker
(4,834 posts)Maybe then we could take it seriously.
This seems to be the entire complaint:
Bernie Sanders is quick to slam Joe Bidens past support of free trade deals and the Iraq War. He is warning him against a middle ground approach to addressing climate change. His campaign sends fundraising appeals with a simple, foreboding subject line: Joe Biden.
What did the Foreboding "Joe Biden" fundraising appeal say?
Have you got anything at all?
If telling people about a candidate's voting record is slamming than what exactly is a campaign about?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....the first paragraph talked about "establishment Democrats", "1%" (of which HE is now a part, and has been longer than he'll admit), and one or two of the other derogatory buzz words he's been using for years.
It used to be a campaign was "about" talking about one's accomplishments and define one's own position on issues and how to work on them, not bashing someone else's record.
When is Sanders going to ever get into HIS accomplishments? In almost five years of running for president I haven't seen him do that once.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PDittie
(8,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)instead of trying to kneecap an actual Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)People have seen this movie before.
This time, it is going to backfire badly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,981 posts)should be doing. There have been zero slams by Sanders against Biden. This is a primary and all candidates need to contrast themselves from each other. These kinds of articles are silly and click bait and do nothing to help people make intelligent decisions on who they will vote for. They are simply to create a fake story to get people riled up. Its the reality tv state of our politics now. Gossip takes the place of actual policy discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,232 posts)Folks have moved away from Bernie for a reason. Attacking Biden will not gain him any support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,981 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)They won't like this one bit -- not the second time around.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)their cause. The more Bernie attacks, the more he solidifies Senator Warren's support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,232 posts)Folks are moving away from Bernie including young folks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)He isn't helping his campaign by trying to be a spoiler.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)See?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,981 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)Not in the Senate.
See, I was making a joke in my post. You weren't. But Joe Biden wasn't in a position to add health clinics to the ACA at that time. Bernie was. Joe was in the House and Senate, though, for many years. I'm guessing he might have named a few post offices during that time, but I don't actually know.
So, I made a joke.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Please. Grasping at straws to make a point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)ACA for Sanders to add his two bits to....
PS: Biden was part of the Obama administration.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)This is entirely predictable. He's running like it's 2016 and it's not working. The more behind he gets, the more shrill his attacks are going to be. Watch as the various candidates rise and fall; he will attack accordingly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,842 posts)Hillary Clinton to work this strategy on, a 2016 redux. Think he'll find a far less polite foil in Joe Biden.
But please, carry on with the futile digging. Btw check your calendar--we're heading towards 2020 where the landscape is vastly different.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)We've been tricked into confronting a false choice before.
We currently have candidates who have solutions that are not based on a standard exclusionary model that has been failing so many people for decades and also not pie in the sky.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that's been pulled on us. By false equivocation from both left and right, both lying to confuse and deceive voters by smearing us with conservative sins.
But any this case, both of these men stand on their own. Neither is an "exclusionary" binary model. All of America knows we have 20 other choices, a few genuinely viable at this point with a long race to go. We can expect support for Biden to drop somewhat, and likely into competitive range, as other candidates become better known and draw interest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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treestar
(82,383 posts)That's what you are telling me. Not very persuasive for Warren, I'd say.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)And I think arguments between Biden and Sanders are an unnecessary waste of media energy when she has claimed a middle ground between the two of them.
I was hoping to see a productive primary and would also love to see a younger candidate emerge with a strong, well defined platform, but if I were going to vote today. It would be Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)are a decided turn-off. I feel a desperation coming off him. Some fine ideas. Needs to stay in his own lane and shine there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,723 posts)in 2011 when he said he thought it would be a good idea to primary President Obama.
Actually I never did like him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,723 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,453 posts)I've already told my brother that I get the laptop during the debates this week. While I expect that the debate will be interesting among Biden and Bernie, I also expect someone else further down the pack to have a breakthrough moment and start climbing in the polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,723 posts)the laptop during the debates, TexasT!
Yeah, there will be all kinds of fireworks during debate week.. good luck to most of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden