Jane Sanders tackles political correctness

[Yosemito]

Link to tweet

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

1. Jane will make a great First Lady too!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[NurseJackie]

7. No she won't.

Bernie won't be president. She should focus on tax returns instead. 😜

[Stellar]

51. I agree!

[betsuni]

2. Is there a War on Wives that I have missed?

[guillaumeb]

3. How could you have missed it?

It started with the battle of Bowling Green.

[mr_lebowski]

4. I don't think that's what she was implying ... you may need to think more deeply (nt)

[betsuni]

16. Won't you share with we shallow-thinkers what she was implying? Is there a context?

Thank you ever so.

[R B Garr]

17. Good questions. I was wondering if this was a swipe at Hillary...

From when Hillary was First Lady and Jane wants to be First Lady?? I’m curious what the context is, too.

[mr_lebowski]

19. I'll answer you both ...

She's implying that Liberals think that women identifying themselves as 'a wife', and taking pride in 'being a wife' ... is not considered politically-correct. She's suggesting some liberals feel it's 'diminutive of women', and not giving them their proper station.

Which is not the same thing as a 'war on wives'.

[JI7]

21. which liberals believe this ?

[mr_lebowski]

26. Imagine if, just as a for instance, at the first Democratic debate, the first question to Amy

Klobuchar was "Mrs. Klobuchar, the American people really don't know too much about you. If I was to ask 'Who is Amy Klobuchar', what would you say?"

And she replied with "Well, Mr. Moderator, first and foremost, I'm a Wife. I'm Mrs. George Klobuchar".

How well would you imagine that would be received on, say ... Democratic Underground?

Please understand, I'm not 'taking a side here', I'm only trying to clarify what I believe is the correct 'interpretation'.

When someone says 'war on wives' I think 'war on women', and I don't think that's what Mrs. Sanders was getting at.

[JI7]

35. why would anyone , especially someone running for president say that?

Kamala Harris has talked about how much she lives her husband so there really isn't any reluctance to show this part of people's lives

it's like saying someone who said happy holidays was ashamed or anti christmas.

[mr_lebowski]

38. If there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, as your post body suggests ...

Then why does your headline express incredulity that someone would actually say that?

Your post as a whole is a bit incongruous, no offense

[JI7]

39. because it's implying someone is ashamed of being a wife. just like right wingers

trying to make it like people are having a war on christmas because they might have some different greeting.

[mr_lebowski]

41. Okay, I see your point. But I think it's a question of where a woman puts 'wife' in her list of

'who she is'.

To a wingnut, they'd love to hear a woman say "Well, I'm a Wife to a wonderful husband, and a Mother to 3 great kids, and a District Attorney". That would totally float their boat. Agreed?

Whereas your average liberal (myself included) would much prefer to hear it like:

"Well, I'm a District Attorney, and a Mother of 3 great kids, and a Wife to a Wonderful Husband". And frankly if that last bit wasn't there, we wouldn't bat an eye, would we?

Not a whole lot of liberals (myself included) especially 'like' to hear a woman put 'being a wife' at the top of the list. To the point that I'd say it's not unreasonable to suggest that's not 'politically correct' .. to do so. I mean, given that us liberals ARE pretty much the arbiters of PC, are we not?

So, what part of that would you disagree with, if any?

[JI7]

45. the average liberal recognizes what women in the work place and elsewhere are up against and

still lacking in equal treatment and fairness.

john kerry refers to himself as husband to Teresa first. but he has the freedom to do this becsuse nobody is going to question his commitment or fitness in whatever job he did.

there were people who were saying hillary should not run for president and instead be a grandmother after Chelsea had her first kid.

[kcr]

46. Liberals aren't the arbiters of PC

Because PC is right-wing spin designed to paint liberals as a monolithic group telling everyone how they're supposed to talk. You don't like it when a woman feels that being a wife is high on her list, but most people don't care, including liberals. This is War on Christmas type bullshit.

[mr_lebowski]

48. Except that ummm .. yeah, it's really not. The vast majority of what the RW'ers say about us is BS

But the PC thing? That is pretty much exactly what we do ... tell people how they're supposed to talk.

I can't really imagine denying that point, as a liberal. I own it. We DO do that.

IMHO, most liberals wouldn't be a big fan of one of our candidates describing 'who she is' by starting out with 'well, first off, I'm a wife'.

Now, it might not be a 'big deal' to the majority of us, but it's still not particularly 'what we want to hear'. Deny it all you want, and say it's 'oh, that's just you Mr. L', but you won't convince me I'm wrong on this point, no offense

Did she overstate the point? Yes, a bit. Is she probably vote-pandering, hoping to wrangle in a few right-leaning indy types? Almost certainly. But it's not an invalid point.

Again, IMHO.

[kcr]

49. Speak for yourself

You seem to like telling women how to think about their priorities, so it's not surprising you think everyone else is together with you in this "we" business.

[mr_lebowski]

50. Never said anything directing 'how women think about their priorities' ... that's nonsense.

Clearly you want to make this into some kind of M/F battle ... I'm not playing that.

Good day!

[R B Garr]

28. Okay, the only thing, though, is that can be a broad insult

to many women; whereas, a smear about Hillary would fire up the never-Hillary crowd and they seem to still engage on that level. I’m thinking back to that whole milk and cookies episode with Hillary as First Lady. It’s kind of an unnecessary comment, so still curious about context.

[betsuni]

29. War on Christmas: liberals think saying "Merry Christmas" is politically incorrect.

War on Wives: liberals think women identifying themselves as wives is politically incorrect.

I thought my comment was amusing, but as we all know now, I am not a deep thinker like you.

[mr_lebowski]

31. I may've misinterpreted ... it was extremely brief :)

When I think 'war on wives' I think 'war on women'.

Also, see my note about Amy Klobuchar (just as a random example) a few lines above ... what is your response to my question?

[WeekiWater]

64. I believe it's more of an inside attempt to make her off limits.

Sanders and his wife understand image. Her actions at Burlington college, while not illegal, was a clear display of incompetence. Sanders has also made an endorsement in the past and immediately after the endorser wine she was appointed to a commission by him. Then there is the fact she is their tax preparer. Then we have lucrative family deals she has been involved with that have left direct family members with serious paychecks.

Historically, people deep in campaigns are not off limits. Wives are. Jane is his wife but is also neck deep in all of it.

[mr_lebowski]

20. I answered RB :)

[R B Garr]

36. This was the Hillary clip I was referencing re: milk and cookies, I guess

it was tea and cookies. I remember it was a huge deal at the time.

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. It is a CLEAR call out to the other side. they want the rumpers to vote for them

I could have told you all this, oh wait, i did.

[R B Garr]

30. Could be this! I thought it might be a swipe at Hillary

from that milk and cookies episode as First Lady.

[comradebillyboy]

59. Jane never misses a chance to take a swipe at Hillary does she?

[mr_lebowski]

40. It does seem that way. However, it's pretty harmless in my estimation ...

It's not she's saying 'well, MAYBE we do need to look at building a wall' or some shit.

It's a very cheap and ultimately meaningless 'gesture' to maybe pull in some Trumper votes.

And lets face it ... our side will need all the votes we can get.

[NastyRiffraff]

60. Yes, but it was overshadowed by the Second Civil War n/t

[CrossingTheRubicon]

6. I can see why she might not want to self-identify as a college president.

Or an income tax preparer.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. LOL

[comradebillyboy]

11. Ouch, lol.

[R B Garr]

18. LOL

[Cha]

25. Precisely!

[lapucelle]

52. ,,,

[Maru Kitteh]

55. Very

well played!

[ehrnst]

70. Indeed. (nt)

[Skidmore]

8. Good grief!

Seriously consider that as an insult to women of all statuses, married or other. So many women have stepped forward to try to save this nation and drag it back out of the min 1950s. This is the time to appeal to the denizens of Gilead? Tone deaf.

There is movement to work on the ERA again. Where does Jane stand, or Bernie, on women's rights and agency. We didn't come this far to be slapped back down by the "progressive" Sanders couple.

[SFnomad]

10. I wonder if she's got time to tackle releasing those taxes? Last time around, BS threw her

under the bus and said she was the one that did them and she was "busy" during the campaign.

[forklift]

12. Since when is being called a wife

or husband politically incorrect?


A completely ridiculous statement the motives behind which are suspicious.

[melman]

13. "the motives behind which are suspicious"

[forklift]

14. The people who detest political correctness

are more likely to be found in the conservative pool of voters.


We Democrats see it as correct phraseology to restore dignity and honor.

[melman]

22. Of course

You're not just looking for anything and everything to make into a big fake outrage. Of course!

[JI7]

15. this is as stupid as the war on christmas

[kcr]

23. Actually, that sounds exactly like something a woman at CPAC would say

[forklift]

24. In a way I don't blame her

She has been a very successful wife and Bernie is still lovingly with her. Identifying as a college president would have been a tad problematic.

[RandySF]

27. uhhhhh ok?

[jcgoldie]

32. Shot at Tabitha King

No idea why.

[TwilightZone]

34. That was my thought, since that was just a couple days ago.

Seems a little odd.

[betsuni]

37. Don't know about Tabitha, but Stephen King was a Hillary supporter.

Maybe that's it.

[NurseJackie]

42. What good purpose does it serve to take cheap-shot swipes at Mrs. King?

Don't know about Tabitha, but Stephen King was a Hillary supporter.

This appears to be a legitimate clue.

[betsuni]

47. As we know, liberals/Democrats are the "opposition" so ...

Snark about Democrats = good. Snark about Republicans = bad.

I guess "wife" isn't establishment.

[mercuryblues]

66. The Kings

donated a large sum to a genealogical society. The headlines in the USA today....

Stephen King and his wife donate $1.25M to New England Historic Genealogical Society


The wife got upset that, you know she has a name. When they did mention her name in the 2nd paragraph Steven and his wife Tabitha, instead of Steven and Tabitha King.

[MrsCoffee]

33. No, it's not politically correct to marginalize women.

Thanks for being honest.

What a strange comment.

[question everything]

43. And financial manipulator

Was "too busy" to release tax return in 2016, had some creative accounting with a college that she ran...

[Garrett78]

44. An odd comment that demonstrates she lacks understanding.

"Political correctness" is used to bash anyone who demands basic decency. Jane Sanders is being dismissive of that reality.

And if she's making a reference to what Tabitha King tweeted, she really, really missed the point.

[littlemissmartypants]

53. Now the wives are insult slinging. Yikes. nt

[Drunken Irishman]

54. I'm just confused by the comment...

Is she suggesting many on the left take umbrage with women calling themselves wives ... because I don't think so?

[KitSileya]

56. Seems to me she knows as little about feminism as those attending CPAC

Feminism fights for equality, which means not only giving women the same rights, opportunities, and respect as men, but also against devaluing that which is seen as feminine and traditionally women's work. That means not only making it acceptable to have a woman President, but also up-valuing housework etc so that this incredible amount of labor isn't dismissed out of hand because it isn't paid. It's not equality if women can do "men's work". True equality won't be achieved until men can be homemakers without being disrespected, until boys can play house with dolls if they want to without fathers shrieking in fear, and what has been traditionally seen as feminine is valued as much as what has traditionally been seen as masculine.

Ms. Sanders reveals her ignorance with her comments, and she certainly shows she is not progressive.

[betsuni]

57. The women's revolution was a good thing BUT ...

I suddenly remembered what this reminded me of!

Bernie, 2014:

"Now it is very unusual to find one person earning enough money to pay the bills. And the revolution ... the women's revolution, which was a good thing, many women want to be out in the workforce and that's great. But the reality is, it now takes two people incredibly long hours to earn enough income to pay the bills. Which raises other questions about child care and what happens to kids when they're not getting the attention they need."

That's a pretty big but. Please, spare me the 'splainin' about what Bernie really meant. Politicians talk for a living. Elizabeth Warren wrote a book about the two paycheck family, I'll listen to her.

[Cha]

58. Mrs Sanders also said this hours before the GE..

Link to tweet

[Yosemito]

61. Wow

She is a Buster.

[Cha]

68. Oh yeah.

[oasis]

62. Someone looking to get another bite at the apple, would make

a comment like that.

[Cha]

69. No kidding. BS went on cnn

right AFTER the election and called My Democratic Party.. "the party of the elite".. and told how "humiliated" he was.

oasis

[betsuni]

65. This should NEVER be forgotten.

[Cha]

67. Yeah, maybe Mrs Sanders Should have "Thought Deeper"

Before she Tweeted Out her Election Day Whistle.

If BS "worked hard" for Hillary why didn't his "wife" help him out there?

[WeekiWater]

63. One of the most privilege minded people you will come across.

“Learning what I didn’t know was hard. To see people suffering unnecessarily was just unfathomable.” Jane Sanders when aske what the most difficult part of the 2016 Presidential campaign was. People don’t understand how sheltered they are. Sanders has been brilliant at promoting his image.