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not that I take any pleasure or national pride in doing so, but
still. I looked at moving to Canada same time, same reasons,
but extended family ties kept me in Oregon, for now.
As USA goes, Oregon is one of the better places to be imho.
actually been here most of my life. But I also realize i live in
a progressive bubble that could burst on short notice.
Happy 4th to you & your beloveds. 
I completely agree that Oregon is one of the better places to be...
If I could live in Norway, Denmark or Germany I'd be gone so fast the door would not have time to hit me in the ass on my way out.
One person can do little to change the greed and godless value system of the powerful and wealthy but as a grass roots
of people, I mean many, many people start to wise up and put an end to this system, I doubt if I'd make any impression as an individual.
People have to care about others beside themselves and capitalism unbridled doesn't value human life. I've had an up front and personal experience with how the country values human life if its poor. And she was working...so that old saw about getting to work only benefits the capitalist.
I was thinking this morning....is this why so many common men who were/are soldiers fought and died...so the more "deserving" can afford medical care to be able to live? Why would I want to stay in a nation so morally asleep?
