Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumDid everybody miss that Clinton was to be interrogated by the FBI this week? So this reporter says
at 1:15. Or was he simply wrong?
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thereismore
(13,326 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)(our Paul Thompson of the Clinton email Timeline)
even if Comey recommends indictment of the queen, it could take Lynch MONTHS to decide whether or not to indict and she could possibly appoint a special prosecutor, so this could TAKE FREAKIN' YEARS to work through. Remember Ken Starr? Remember how long he took to investigate the queen's husband?
Then she could get immunity just because she's president, if she's allowed to continue her campaign even after indictment is recommended and they're successful in STEALING this election. It certainly appears the Democratic Party wants a possible felon leading the country because they're doing everything in their power to steal the election for her.
My money is on the Democratic Party poo-pooing the indictment and insisting she gets to continue her campaign.
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thereismore
(13,326 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)Hi11ary is under investigation by the FBI, and her supporters don't seem to care a whit. Absolutely disgusting.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Glad she did something with it.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)He gave her viewers/listeners a ton of information that the corrupt corporate owned MSM has never bothered to report.
I'd say the queen's camp should be getting nervous. It's pretty much a given Comey will recommend indictment. Then it's in the hands of our corrupt party to do the right thing. Don't hold your breath.
Thanks for putting that bug in her ear! A LOT of unknown info was released to the masses yesterday.
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disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)PEACE
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senz
(11,945 posts)Lots of interesting stuff about Nevada.
Thanks for the link, in_cog_ni_to.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)PEACE
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)and that should make her unviable as a candidate for President. One would think, in a sane world.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Clinton is the potential target of a criminal investigation. She will be interrogated like any suspect. It is basically a hostile situation, not a friendly informal chat over tea.
Team Clinton would like to deemphasize the criminal aspect of the situation. But facts are facts.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)I never would have learned it from CNN, MSNBC, or the broadcast networks.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Donkees
(31,406 posts)I'm sure it's been on TV news.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Outright panic from them for months now. I've been curious to see how bad it really is...but it's bad enough that they don't want Bernie still in the race when it comes out.
Bob41213
(491 posts)I originally thought she would probably skate through this but now I see too much out there. I don't see any way she makes it through this. I see one of three possibilities.
1) She's "effectively indicted" before the convention and Bernie takes so many of the delegates that Bernie is the nominee. I think this is the feared scenario (to the Democratic leadership) and it's why there has been a push for him to drop out..
2) She's "effectively indicted" after the convention (or close enough to it that Bernie is trailing by enough) and they give the nomination to Biden.
3) It comes out too late, and this thing blows up in November.
I'm convinced it's real. I'm convinced the FBI is going to make sure details come out at some point. This is going to be a mess.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)I know it's real...but Bushco skated on torture and mass murder. Who knows what the actual bar is when you have a position in the upper tiers.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)So there is that.
Bob41213
(491 posts)There is the very real possibility the Justice Dept tries to ignore it. I think if that happens, then you are going to get a huge blowback from the FBI. The FBI could do any one of a number of things. What if they write up a report that details however many charges should be leveled at Clinton and Co? Half the FBI resigning in protest after Obama went on the record saying there would be no interference? It could be a blood bath.
There is also the possibility that hacked emails are released by a third party. Rumors are already out there that the Russians may release 20k emails they have to sink Clinton (they are rumors only at this point). I guarantee the Russians were in there though. The Chinese too. Then you may have a bunch of other hackers. If I was Trump, I'd offer a reward to a hacker if they could provide proof they hacked in and I'd do it on the sly so I could control any release. I honestly doubt a foreign govt would want to reveal their knowledge but someone like NK may like nothing more than to say they brought down HRC.
And then what about the FBI investigation continuing onto the Clinton Foundation?
THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY AND IT'S NOT A NOTHINGBURGER. We've been hearing this rumbling louder and louder for a while.
840high
(17,196 posts)sites. They have what our crooked media will not show.
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tularetom
(23,664 posts)Certainly everyone around here believes it.
So Obama is really in a bad position. If the FBI fails to recommend indictment, the public will assume that Obama put the kibosh on it. I wouldn't be surprised to see impeachment proceedings or criminal charges against the president if there is no indictment. If they do recommend indictment and he kills it, same outcome. If they recommend indictment and he allows it to stand, the Dems will probably lose the election and he will get blamed.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)He has to count on her to continue his policies in order to secure his "legacy," but they don't like each other and Hillary's backstabs of him are all coming home to roost at once.
A devil's deal, all around.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)He'd do better to stand back and let the law take its course.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)His desire for a centerist "legacy" is his biggest weakness. Unless Biden gets tapped, Hillary is the only one who could possibly keep his policies going...and you are correct to say that he would be a fool to expect her to actually do it.
He's running out of good options...and Hillary is like a huge anchor dragging him down at the moment.
JudyM
(29,246 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)so the establishment does have something to fall back on. I hope, hope, hope that Obama doesn't think he has to protect Hillary. I've long had the impression that he doesn't genuinely like her -- and there are many reasons why he wouldn't.
The oligarchy wants Hill though, and would undoubtedly pressure Obama to protect her.
So I keep hoping he remembers his community organizer roots, and the ugly, dishonorable way she treated him in 2008, and what she did with the private email server and Libya, and all her other blunders as SOS -- including her "Clinton Foundation" weapons deals -- and realizes that there is no good reason to protect Hillary from her own mistakes.
If the Dems do the right thing and allow Bernie to run, the Dems win 2016. It's a fact.
JudyM
(29,246 posts)in fact brought to light I am skeptical that justice will be done.
We need a revolution not just FOR Bernie, but independently AGAINST the corrupt establishment.
Nevada is astonishingly stark. They are stealing the election at every opportunity through raw exertion of power and influence. To me, that was a defining moment of this primary season. Will we take back our country?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)dare. She is relying on the President and the Justice Dept. to make pressure on Comey to leave it alone. But she won't lie, technically. She may have problems recalling her recollections, yes. But she won't lie.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)that people will start wondering whether she has dementia issues.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)JudyM
(29,246 posts)in setting it up/sending all her emails through it there is no way to disprove that, so I expect she will lie. She already has publicly pleaded ignorance and innocence about both. Then the case will have to be made on circumstantial evidence, and be much weaker. Unless her aides spill the beans about her intention.
It is not clear to me what standard will be used... but if it's about her knowledge and intent, my bet is on her beating that rap by lying outright.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Or, "I din't know the stuff was TS/SAP" so when I put it on my private server that makes it OK?
I think they can get her on a lot of things that do not require intent. Gross negligence is bad enough.
Remember, they got Petraeus not because he gave the info to his lover (she had the clearance, ehm, to handle it) but because he kept the information in an unsecured location.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)stating she'd surrendered all of her State Dept work product, yet still had it sitting on a private server two years later.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)FOIA requests.
JudyM
(29,246 posts)depending on interpretation. Are you confident about that?
Wondering if it's going to just be about that 3rd party company having a copy of her server.
Barely have passing familiarity about that area of law. I'd dive in except I have no faith in the AG and Obama so feel like it'd just end up more upsetting! The lack of ethics displayed throughout this primary, and by Clintonworld in general, makes Scalia seem like an ordinary Justice. Upside-down democracy.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)information alone is a super serious deal.
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dchill
(38,492 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Yesterday I saw that it had been posted on jpr but no one had commented on it (at that time, don't know about today) and wondered what was up, so I did a web search on FBI interviews with Hillary and couldn't find anything about one coming up soon. So I went back to the video and saw that it was a little over a week old. I still doubt the little snippet in the video, because it would be a really big news item if it were coming up this week. Really big.
Anyway, the subject is extremely important and definitely worth discussing.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)not a native English speaker.
senz
(11,945 posts)I've made far worse mistakes trying to speak Spanish!