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Did everybody miss that Clinton was to be interrogated by the FBI this week? So this reporter says (Original Post) thereismore May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #1
It seems the show will be over well before the Convention, one way or the other. nt thereismore May 2016 #2
From what I saw on Nicole Sandler today from Paul Thompson's appearance in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #7
You may be right. Indictment? Pfft. Just part of a vast right-wing conspiracy! nt thereismore May 2016 #8
I wouldn't take that wager... chervilant May 2016 #9
Hey! I Tweeted that to her last week. Fawke Em May 2016 #13
It was a great interview! Paul was on through Skype for a long time - 30-45 minutes (?) LINK: in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #20
Thanks for posting.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #34
You're welcome! in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #36
Listening to it now, she hasn't gotten to Paul Thompson yet, but it's a good show. senz May 2016 #42
You're welcome, senz! in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #43
Indictment is many steps away. The FBI report merely has to find she violated her security agreement leveymg May 2016 #27
Actually it's an INTERROGATION, not an interview tularetom May 2016 #45
I deduced that from Camp Weathervane's behavior. winter is coming May 2016 #3
It looks like the Puerto Rican reporter either had some private information or just guessed right. n thereismore May 2016 #4
It was mentioned before, but I don't recall which video that I posted contained the info. (MSNBC ?) Donkees May 2016 #6
IKR? Hydra May 2016 #5
I am convinced she will not be elected President.... Bob41213 May 2016 #10
Regarding #3 Hydra May 2016 #11
But they were never even investigated. Fawke Em May 2016 #15
Correct. There are many possible reasons why it explodes... Bob41213 May 2016 #21
That's why I go to overseas 840high May 2016 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #12
I'm guessing that more than half the population believes she will be indicted tularetom May 2016 #14
Obama is probably finding Hillary to be a huge liability to him at the moment Hydra May 2016 #16
He'd be foolish to count on her to continue anything that didn't suit her own ends. winter is coming May 2016 #17
That's why he's essentially painted himself into a corner Hydra May 2016 #18
Agreeing with your perspective and perplexed why he continues to affirmatively support her... JudyM May 2016 #40
We've been hearing about Joe Biden as a substitute for Hillary senz May 2016 #41
I expect her to lie some more. She will get every benefit of the doubt. And whatever muck is JudyM May 2016 #22
It's easy to lie to the public and the media, however, FBI is a whole different animal. She won't thereismore May 2016 #23
I expect her to have recollection problems so all-encompassing winter is coming May 2016 #24
About that... she will have to fake dementia. Bill on the other hand, not. nt thereismore May 2016 #25
I'm not so sure. If it comes down to what she knew about server security and what her intention was JudyM May 2016 #26
You mean as in "I had a private server in order to better comply with the Public Records Act?" thereismore May 2016 #28
I'm all ears for her explanation as to why she signed a document winter is coming May 2016 #29
Yup. When she, in fact, had given them zippo, and wouldn't have, if it were not for the Benghazi thereismore May 2016 #32
Yes, I hope they've got enough to get gross negligence... there's plenty of wiggle room there, JudyM May 2016 #31
IDK. Watch the video with Paul Thompson in Reply #13. He convinced me that the TS/SAP thereismore May 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM May 2016 #35
K&R dchill May 2016 #30
That is an old video. It was published on May 8. senz May 2016 #37
Which is why I said "this week" when the reporter said "next week" last week. nt thereismore May 2016 #38
That's good, but I still have some doubts about it, thereismore... senz May 2016 #39
It's quite possible the reporter meant to say "Clinton's people" and instead said "Clinton". He is thereismore May 2016 #44
Ah yes, that makes sense. senz May 2016 #46

Response to thereismore (Original post)

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
7. From what I saw on Nicole Sandler today from Paul Thompson's appearance
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

(our Paul Thompson of the Clinton email Timeline)

even if Comey recommends indictment of the queen, it could take Lynch MONTHS to decide whether or not to indict and she could possibly appoint a special prosecutor, so this could TAKE FREAKIN' YEARS to work through. Remember Ken Starr? Remember how long he took to investigate the queen's husband?

Then she could get immunity just because she's president, if she's allowed to continue her campaign even after indictment is recommended and they're successful in STEALING this election. It certainly appears the Democratic Party wants a possible felon leading the country because they're doing everything in their power to steal the election for her.

My money is on the Democratic Party poo-pooing the indictment and insisting she gets to continue her campaign.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
9. I wouldn't take that wager...
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

Hi11ary is under investigation by the FBI, and her supporters don't seem to care a whit. Absolutely disgusting.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
20. It was a great interview! Paul was on through Skype for a long time - 30-45 minutes (?) LINK:
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:17 AM
May 2016

He gave her viewers/listeners a ton of information that the corrupt corporate owned MSM has never bothered to report.

I'd say the queen's camp should be getting nervous. It's pretty much a given Comey will recommend indictment. Then it's in the hands of our corrupt party to do the right thing. Don't hold your breath.

Thanks for putting that bug in her ear! A LOT of unknown info was released to the masses yesterday.




PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
42. Listening to it now, she hasn't gotten to Paul Thompson yet, but it's a good show.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:11 PM
May 2016

Lots of interesting stuff about Nevada.

Thanks for the link, in_cog_ni_to.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. Indictment is many steps away. The FBI report merely has to find she violated her security agreement
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

and that should make her unviable as a candidate for President. One would think, in a sane world.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
45. Actually it's an INTERROGATION, not an interview
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

Clinton is the potential target of a criminal investigation. She will be interrogated like any suspect. It is basically a hostile situation, not a friendly informal chat over tea.

Team Clinton would like to deemphasize the criminal aspect of the situation. But facts are facts.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
3. I deduced that from Camp Weathervane's behavior.
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

I never would have learned it from CNN, MSNBC, or the broadcast networks.

Donkees

(31,406 posts)
6. It was mentioned before, but I don't recall which video that I posted contained the info. (MSNBC ?)
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:22 PM
May 2016

I'm sure it's been on TV news.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. IKR?
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:18 PM
May 2016

Outright panic from them for months now. I've been curious to see how bad it really is...but it's bad enough that they don't want Bernie still in the race when it comes out.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
10. I am convinced she will not be elected President....
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:02 PM
May 2016

I originally thought she would probably skate through this but now I see too much out there. I don't see any way she makes it through this. I see one of three possibilities.

1) She's "effectively indicted" before the convention and Bernie takes so many of the delegates that Bernie is the nominee. I think this is the feared scenario (to the Democratic leadership) and it's why there has been a push for him to drop out..

2) She's "effectively indicted" after the convention (or close enough to it that Bernie is trailing by enough) and they give the nomination to Biden.

3) It comes out too late, and this thing blows up in November.

I'm convinced it's real. I'm convinced the FBI is going to make sure details come out at some point. This is going to be a mess.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
11. Regarding #3
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:26 PM
May 2016

I know it's real...but Bushco skated on torture and mass murder. Who knows what the actual bar is when you have a position in the upper tiers.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
21. Correct. There are many possible reasons why it explodes...
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:29 AM
May 2016

There is the very real possibility the Justice Dept tries to ignore it. I think if that happens, then you are going to get a huge blowback from the FBI. The FBI could do any one of a number of things. What if they write up a report that details however many charges should be leveled at Clinton and Co? Half the FBI resigning in protest after Obama went on the record saying there would be no interference? It could be a blood bath.

There is also the possibility that hacked emails are released by a third party. Rumors are already out there that the Russians may release 20k emails they have to sink Clinton (they are rumors only at this point). I guarantee the Russians were in there though. The Chinese too. Then you may have a bunch of other hackers. If I was Trump, I'd offer a reward to a hacker if they could provide proof they hacked in and I'd do it on the sly so I could control any release. I honestly doubt a foreign govt would want to reveal their knowledge but someone like NK may like nothing more than to say they brought down HRC.

And then what about the FBI investigation continuing onto the Clinton Foundation?

THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY AND IT'S NOT A NOTHINGBURGER. We've been hearing this rumbling louder and louder for a while.

Response to thereismore (Original post)

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
14. I'm guessing that more than half the population believes she will be indicted
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:40 PM
May 2016

Certainly everyone around here believes it.

So Obama is really in a bad position. If the FBI fails to recommend indictment, the public will assume that Obama put the kibosh on it. I wouldn't be surprised to see impeachment proceedings or criminal charges against the president if there is no indictment. If they do recommend indictment and he kills it, same outcome. If they recommend indictment and he allows it to stand, the Dems will probably lose the election and he will get blamed.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
16. Obama is probably finding Hillary to be a huge liability to him at the moment
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

He has to count on her to continue his policies in order to secure his "legacy," but they don't like each other and Hillary's backstabs of him are all coming home to roost at once.

A devil's deal, all around.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
17. He'd be foolish to count on her to continue anything that didn't suit her own ends.
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:11 AM
May 2016

He'd do better to stand back and let the law take its course.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
18. That's why he's essentially painted himself into a corner
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:21 AM
May 2016

His desire for a centerist "legacy" is his biggest weakness. Unless Biden gets tapped, Hillary is the only one who could possibly keep his policies going...and you are correct to say that he would be a fool to expect her to actually do it.

He's running out of good options...and Hillary is like a huge anchor dragging him down at the moment.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
41. We've been hearing about Joe Biden as a substitute for Hillary
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:07 PM
May 2016

so the establishment does have something to fall back on. I hope, hope, hope that Obama doesn't think he has to protect Hillary. I've long had the impression that he doesn't genuinely like her -- and there are many reasons why he wouldn't.

The oligarchy wants Hill though, and would undoubtedly pressure Obama to protect her.

So I keep hoping he remembers his community organizer roots, and the ugly, dishonorable way she treated him in 2008, and what she did with the private email server and Libya, and all her other blunders as SOS -- including her "Clinton Foundation" weapons deals -- and realizes that there is no good reason to protect Hillary from her own mistakes.

If the Dems do the right thing and allow Bernie to run, the Dems win 2016. It's a fact.



JudyM

(29,246 posts)
22. I expect her to lie some more. She will get every benefit of the doubt. And whatever muck is
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

in fact brought to light I am skeptical that justice will be done.

We need a revolution not just FOR Bernie, but independently AGAINST the corrupt establishment.

Nevada is astonishingly stark. They are stealing the election at every opportunity through raw exertion of power and influence. To me, that was a defining moment of this primary season. Will we take back our country?

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
23. It's easy to lie to the public and the media, however, FBI is a whole different animal. She won't
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:48 PM
May 2016

dare. She is relying on the President and the Justice Dept. to make pressure on Comey to leave it alone. But she won't lie, technically. She may have problems recalling her recollections, yes. But she won't lie.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
24. I expect her to have recollection problems so all-encompassing
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

that people will start wondering whether she has dementia issues.

JudyM

(29,246 posts)
26. I'm not so sure. If it comes down to what she knew about server security and what her intention was
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

in setting it up/sending all her emails through it there is no way to disprove that, so I expect she will lie. She already has publicly pleaded ignorance and innocence about both. Then the case will have to be made on circumstantial evidence, and be much weaker. Unless her aides spill the beans about her intention.

It is not clear to me what standard will be used... but if it's about her knowledge and intent, my bet is on her beating that rap by lying outright.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
28. You mean as in "I had a private server in order to better comply with the Public Records Act?"
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

Or, "I din't know the stuff was TS/SAP" so when I put it on my private server that makes it OK?

I think they can get her on a lot of things that do not require intent. Gross negligence is bad enough.

Remember, they got Petraeus not because he gave the info to his lover (she had the clearance, ehm, to handle it) but because he kept the information in an unsecured location.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
29. I'm all ears for her explanation as to why she signed a document
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

stating she'd surrendered all of her State Dept work product, yet still had it sitting on a private server two years later.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
32. Yup. When she, in fact, had given them zippo, and wouldn't have, if it were not for the Benghazi
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

FOIA requests.

JudyM

(29,246 posts)
31. Yes, I hope they've got enough to get gross negligence... there's plenty of wiggle room there,
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

depending on interpretation. Are you confident about that?

Wondering if it's going to just be about that 3rd party company having a copy of her server.

Barely have passing familiarity about that area of law. I'd dive in except I have no faith in the AG and Obama so feel like it'd just end up more upsetting! The lack of ethics displayed throughout this primary, and by Clintonworld in general, makes Scalia seem like an ordinary Justice. Upside-down democracy.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
33. IDK. Watch the video with Paul Thompson in Reply #13. He convinced me that the TS/SAP
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

information alone is a super serious deal.

Response to thereismore (Reply #33)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
39. That's good, but I still have some doubts about it, thereismore...
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016

Yesterday I saw that it had been posted on jpr but no one had commented on it (at that time, don't know about today) and wondered what was up, so I did a web search on FBI interviews with Hillary and couldn't find anything about one coming up soon. So I went back to the video and saw that it was a little over a week old. I still doubt the little snippet in the video, because it would be a really big news item if it were coming up this week. Really big.

Anyway, the subject is extremely important and definitely worth discussing.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
44. It's quite possible the reporter meant to say "Clinton's people" and instead said "Clinton". He is
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:16 PM
May 2016

not a native English speaker.
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