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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:46 PM Apr 2016

Can I ask you all for some help? Do you want to know HOW 'the system is fixed"?

People need to learn about the various trade deals - starting with the three pending ones and GATS.

the reason they always discuss NAFTA and TPP is because others are more clearly and obviously attacks on the middle class - GATS especially, and GATS begat TiSA and TTIP is basically an attack o environmental and fracking regulations

Is there interest here to have a discussion on those specific deals?

The best places to learn about them are citizen.org and policyalternatives.ca.

You should use Google's Advanced Search to limit the search to those web sites. just plug in their names and maybe use the filetype.pdf operator, download a bunch of PDFs and scan them.

Scott Sinclair's work on policyalternatives is very good.

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Can I ask you all for some help? Do you want to know HOW 'the system is fixed"? (Original Post) Baobab Apr 2016 OP
This is the place we usually don't have to worry about anyone/candidate supporting such policies. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1
Thank you for reminding me of the fracking deal. This is really important because it could Baobab Apr 2016 #2
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
1. This is the place we usually don't have to worry about anyone/candidate supporting such policies.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:23 AM
Apr 2016

But things are changing with Hillary being a big fracker, throughout the State Dept.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
2. Thank you for reminding me of the fracking deal. This is really important because it could
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:51 AM
Apr 2016

cause a lot of homelessness.

Do you know about the energy chapter of the transatlantic trade deal? Basically, they want to include deal to export ntural gas from fracking and drilling, with no limits, using the FTA to irreversibly overrule all state and national laws and this new global temping subcontracing program absolved the master contractors and exempt the BP's and Shells of the world from liability, so they can vastly increase fracking and drilling, and make it irreversible so they can export it to Asia and Europe where they get several times more for it than here. Maybe 3 to 5 times as much.

To understand the extreme danger of huge costs to taxpayers somebody needs to understand ISDS, investor state - which would put the US taxpayer on the hook for what could become the iggest bailout in history, trillions of dollars, if we just tried to subsequently turn it off, it would become impossible to stop or reverse..

See here:
http://www.tni.org/sites/www.tni.org/files/download/nofrackingway.pdf

http://www.iatp.org/blog/201405/no-green-jobs-for-you-secret-eu-us-trade-agreement-threatens-minnesota%E2%80%99s-solar-rebate-an

There have been limits on exporting natural gas since the 1970s so US natural gas prices are among the lowest in the world.

This goes against WTO ideology. Basically the WTO rules say that we should be exporting it and let the market determine the price, not regulation.

There is a very well connected PR firm that is trying to convince Americans that we're another Saudi Arabia so we will go along with this potentially disastrous deal buried in TTIP.

Real estate developers as well as construction industry is ecited about this but there may not be as many jobs in it as people think because of new WTO rules that will likely require that the work to retrofit solar onto buildings (so they can be heated without natural gas or going back to coal) may actually go to overseas firms (whomever is the lowest qualified bidder, see WTO Government Procurement Agreement. Also TTIP includes a similar deal that will give all EU countries equal rights to bid on and do the work if hey are the cheapest. This is why Hillary keeps talking about building infrastructure but NEVER about creating new jobs for Americans. Its likely a good chunk of that money will go to foreign subcontractors also wages are likely to fall due to the low cost foreign competition. Its possible that India may win a case they just submitted to WTO on quotas and GATS Mode Four - they also may (I honesly dont know how this would work but I am just getting that as a strong message from the wording of GATS when it comes to disciplines on domestic regulation have a reciprocal right to be involved too - what do you think? Read the following article about a recent WTO decision on green jobs programs in Uttar Pradesh. And follow the links from it for more info.

But anyway back to my original post, the US's aging housing stock would never be seen in many other countrie because of the high cost of energy elsewhere. I am afraid that cities may be majorly effected by the sudden jump in energy prices, leading to a loss of so called rent stabilization laws nationally. The Supreme Court situation is better though, perhaps.

People should realize that rent stabilization laws are such a thin thread to base so many people's lives on. If those laws are struck down millons of Americans would have no place to go. This is the problem with narcissistic leaders, THEY DONT KNOW, they dont emphasize naturally. that part of humankind that feels a pang when they see somebody being hurt is not there.

Why is it that they want so badly to be politicians?

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